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Edits to Leo Frank article
Hi. I'd made some edits to the Leo Frank article recently and got a notification that they were reverted. Could you explain the reason for their reversion? I'd meant for the edits to clarify that he was kidnapped from jail to be lynched, to add some archive url's, and to clarify that the Columbia State was being sarcastic (which is kinda alluded to by the clause about them being opposed to the lynching but I had to re-read it once or twice to feel sure that they were being sarcastic because, well, Poe's Law).

I thought these were relatively harmless copy editing and maintenance. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 16:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you mean this edit? I couldn't match the edit to the edit summary. The diff only showed the removal of the dates from the short description and a lot of white space changes. DeCausa (talk) 16:32, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ohhh. Holy moly.  I didn't realize that I'd removed the date from the short description.  I'd been meaning to edit the article while on my phone (but it was really cumbersome).  So I copied the source code, made some edits, emailed them to myself, and posted once I got home.  I didn't realize that in between my copying of the code and posting that someone else had made an edit lol.
 * The removal of the white spaces and date were unintentional. The stuff I'd meant to put in were in the lead paragraph and the sources listed in the lead. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 17:13, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I not exactly sure how you've done it, but whatever changes you made to the lead aren't showing up in the diff. So I can't actually tell what you've added or changed. I don't know of it's something to do with copying the lead and reposting it with the changes. DeCausa (talk) 17:18, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Really? When I looked at the differences page, it showed my additions and edits in the lead paragraph pretty clearly.  Are you on a phone?  (****edit:  Ohhh, I see now.  I use the wikiEdDiff gadget which highlighted the changes.  But looking at it from a default user, it looks like a bunch of mumbo jumbo).


 * I could also just add my edits back in from scratch so I don't accidentally remove the date or all those white spaces. So then the edit could be assessed purely on its own merits.  Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 18:36, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

"Government and politics" lead: United Kingdom
Hello, I noticed you reverted my recent contributions to the lead of the "Government and politics" section of the UK article. My contributions were supported by the source material; I was merely rewording sentences contributed by other authors to improve structure and fluidity. I was actually the person that fleshed out the lead to begin with and detail the reserve powers of the Crown, with all pertinent citations. I'd be happy to discuss this further if you are so inclined. Mcvayn (talk) 05:39, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you mean this? Firstly, it would have been better to have posted this at the article talk page. secondly, there were a few problems with your changes. Firstly, changing monarch to sovereign would require consensus. For a global audience where a substantial proportion of the readership has English as a second language monarch has greater clarity. but, in addition, it is unclear what advantage there is in changing it. The next issue is that where you added text the existing citation attached to the sentence doesn't appear to support it. the last issue is that some of the changes were on the basis that replacing 'z' with 's' was to conform with British spelling. But that is incorrect - see Oxford spelling. Overall, it did not appear your changes were an improvement. DeCausa (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Reverted
Hi. I still have not received an answer about why my message is reverted per WP:TPO. I didn't change a single letter of what I wrote earlier. I would be glad if you explain. Kyzagan (talk) 10:48, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, you're right. My mistake. This diff made it look as though there were changes because of the highlighting. But the highlighting in thediff doesn't seem to be indicating changes for some reason. DeCausa (talk) 12:35, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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about Parsis in india
It is necessary to mention and not unnecessary, especially for better understanding And about the deleted article without an authentic and self-made source that was on the page of a German newspaper, is it here, newspapers and magazines and their words, or materials with scientific and historical accuracy with authentic documents. Parmin khosravi (talk) 22:49, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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Charles III requested move discussion
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Hi
I saw u reverted some of my edits. You are right. I edited some of their contents. Plus, all the contests that u removed, though brought from other articles, are my own additions (in their source articles too) actually. Maybe I am not aware of some guidelines too. If so, please make me aware. I will be glad to discuss with you about how to readd the information there without having any problem. Haoreima (talk) 21:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * See Copying within Wikipedia on attribution. Other issues were: (1) the opening on the paragraph on Loyumba Shinyen was in the same format as the opening of an article. It needs to be adapted. (2) Generally, there was too much detail for relatively obscure topics for this article. DeCausa (talk) 09:16, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

British Raj
Hi, I’d just like to say I appreciate you advocating for not neglecting British Burma as part of British India / the Raj. I hope that we can reach a consensus with the other editor, Fowler. MichaelDMelvin23 (talk) 15:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Leo Frank
You reverted my edit to the “Short Description” on this article and said that it was “better” before.

Whether or not Leo Frank was convicted “wrongfully” is a matter of opinion and significant controversy. I have created a topic in the Talk section of the article to discuss this further. The current wording is opinionated and inaccurate. Livius Plinius (talk) 19:58, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not any sort of controversy among reliable sources. That frothing-at-the-mouth anti-semitic websites find it controversial is irrelevant. Read WP:DUE. DeCausa (talk) 20:40, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Consensus of opinion is still a matter of opinion. Legal facts are what have been proclaimed as true by a court of law.
 * It may be factual to say, ”Leo Frank is widely considered to have been wrongly convicted,” but what is factual about that statement is that such an opinion is widely held– not the opinion itself. The opinion does not become a fact simply because many people hold it. Only the justice system can objectively declare that Leo Frank's conviction was wrongful or factually incorrect.
 * In no objective, definitive way can you simply say that Frank was “wrongly convicted,” when his conviction has never been overturned despite a century of legal challenges which included review by the Supreme Court. Livius Plinius (talk) 21:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Nonsenses. We do all the time. Frank isn't going to appeal - we base our statements on WP:RS and WP:DUE. You're wasting your time unless you spend some time understanding Wikipedia policy. And now you're wasting my time. I don't generally tell people not to post on my talk page (however pointless there messages are) but I won't bother replying to any more of your ill-informed opinions here. DeCausa (talk) 21:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Groups continue to press for Leo Frank's exoneration within the legal system, but they have not prevailed.
 * You don't seem to understand that saying something like, “Leo Frank is widely considered to have been wrongly convicted,” is not the same as saying, “Leo Frank was wrongly convicted.”
 * The former may be factual, the latter has not been established in any court of law, and is simply not a factual statement. It is a matter of opinion and cannot be presented as a fact even if many people hold that opinion. Livius Plinius (talk) 21:34, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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ANI
Just saw your edit to the ANI section. I didn't realise it had posted out of order. I used the reply button so thought it was still be in order so it was unintentional on my part. I'll keep an eye out when I reply to other submissions. Apache287 (talk) 22:17, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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WP:REDACT concern
I didn't make any significant change in my comments, I merely added links and sources to what I've written a while ago to avoid the repeated accusation of being using my own interpretation of primary sources. This will actually help the editors to review my comments and give it more creditability. Jopharocen (talk) 13:40, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't add links and sources that weren't previously there. It chages the context of any replies - which you actually acknowledge: "to avoid the repeated accusation of being using my own interpretation of primary sources". Your trying to strengthen your position in light of subsequent replies. You can't do that. The most you should do is minor formatting or typos - but even then don't do it too much as it will aggravate. DeCausa (talk) 13:51, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I was about to note that in a new reply that I've added links for whoever looking for references for my previous comments so that everybody be aware of it, but I was still working on it before they were reverted. I could have started new comments with those sources but it would have prolonged the discussion with topics already discussed. Jopharocen (talk) 14:29, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
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 * Thanks very much! DeCausa (talk) 12:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Friendly hello
Hello, how are you? I'm just dropping in because we edit some of the same pages, and I find it's good to understand a fellow editor beyond 'that person who keeps disagreeing with me'. Are you working on anything interesting at the moment? Best wishes, A.D.Hope (talk) 19:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the note. I'm quite busy in real life at the moment so I haven't been devoting much time to WP lately. I had been delving into a number of Welsh history articles - there's quite a lot of poor quality sourcing and WP:OR there. But I have quite a major piece of work in mind on an aspect of Persian mythology literature but I need quite a bit of spare time to tackle it. Maybe over Christmas. I've pinged a few times at King of Wales and I see you've commented there. I'll take a look at that. DeCausa (talk) 19:57, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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Solomonic Dynasty
Go visit Japan's monarchy page, you will see the exact thing, it is generally agreed to add the empathizing mark to distinct between legend which is not proved to historical fact as you pointed, the Japanese page has done it, i will do it: if you edit or revert it back it won't help anything but start a uncalled for edit conflict which is not necessary, i will want to to go and read the Japanese monarch page and come back to me CtasACT (talk) 03:17, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It's irrelevant see WP:OTHERCONTENT. In any case it was only added to the Japan article in the last few days - it's gone now. DeCausa (talk) 08:10, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Amhara people page
Hi, How come it was allowed to delete from the Wikipedia page of the Amhara about Amharas being heirs/descendants of the Aksum empire? Amhara historical heritage with Aksum is well backed yet an Arabic user name on Wikipedia (he now changed it to English his username is Socialwave597) completely removed everything without talking with anyone. It’s not the first time that he do such thing. 2A00:A041:E19A:2600:9D67:A7C:3AB2:BC63 (talk) 10:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's not an article I watch. DeCausa (talk) 20:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok. What is that supposed to mean? Then who is watching it? Anyone can do what the hell they want? 2A00:A041:E19A:2600:816F:6687:EF54:CD17 (talk) 11:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you are talking about. I have never edited Amhara people and don't have any interest in it. I don't know why you are posting on my talk page about it. DeCausa (talk) 12:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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Turkey
If you were objecting to the percentages, why did you do a full revert here, deleting the reliably sourced information in footnotes? Bogazicili (talk) 23:23, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Huh? I object to the addition of unnecessary pointless clutter, not the percentages. DeCausa (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * You are making edits not even aware of what you are changing? Did you see the footnotes? Bogazicili (talk) 23:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yesw, they are crap. DeCausa (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Why are they "crap"? Bogazicili (talk) 23:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Unnecessary clutter. DeCausa (talk) 23:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Such a weird reasoning. Are you being disruptive on purpose? Bogazicili (talk) 23:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Look, you have an agenda that you are driving through. I genuinely couldn't care less either way - i'm well used to these local political arguments on WP that I have no direct interest in. But what when it starts interfering in reader usability I do care. You won't have any idea what I'm talking about. DeCausa (talk) 23:43, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * My agenda is improving the article to GA and then to FA. Look up what reader usability is. Bogazicili (talk) 23:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah right. DeCausa (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Bhai
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Talk:Parmesan
Hi, in this discussion, so as not to create further misunderstandings, is it possible to change the title of the question? (spelled without dash, https://www.parmigianoreggiano.com/it/). JacktheBrown (talk) 23:16, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That can be discussed in the thread. There's no need to alter other editors' posts per WP:TPO. The editor who originally posted that may have a pov that it should have a dash and that is their prerogative. DeCausa (talk) 23:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * all right, thank you very much! JacktheBrown (talk) 23:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC)