User talk:DeFaultRyan/Archives/2011/October

Help with template projects
DeFaultRyan, as you are something of a coding guru, I'd like to enlist your help with a couple of template projects.

The first concerns Template:List of college football program head coaches key, which is a template I've worked on to standardize tables for head football coaching lists like List of Michigan Wolverines head football coaches. One editor has raised some concerns here that the template needs to be dynamic to turn certain fields off and on as needed. I like the idea, but I've run into some difficulty making it work. What I'd like to do is have following things appear in the table optionally as needed:
 * 1) the "DCs" and "Division championships" cells in the "General" columns; when turned off everything below slides up
 * 2) the dagger symbol and "Elected to the College Football Hall of Fame" cells in the "General" columns; when turned off those cells are simply blank
 * 3) the entire two columns underneath the "Conference" heading for all-time independents like Notre Dame; when turned off the "Postseasons" columns slide left

I set up a copy of the template in my user space to start tinkering, but didn't get very far. Feel free to tinker if you are game: User:Jweiss11/Template:List of college football program head coaches key.

The second project concerns the the standings templates for college football and college basketball. I've made contact with an editor actively working on American college soccer who is enthusiastic about standardizing the standings templates there in line with what we have for football and basketball. But there are some little style differences between the football and basketball templates that should be smoothed out before. The football standings templates punctuate records with an en dash and have wide spaces between the W/L/T columns. The basketball templates have no en dashes and the spacing between the W/L columns is closer. We should have one format here that works for football and basketball and can be rolled out to other sports. I think the spacing for the basketball template is better, but the en dashes that are used for football are consistent with how records are typically described in text and other tables, and also how they are presented by definitive media sources like ESPN; see http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/standings. So, I think the solution for all sports should employ the spacing of the basketball templates with the en dashes of the football templates. I'd like to see something like this, but with better alignment:

 W – L  5–5

What you do think? I started to tinker around with the relevant templates, but didn't get very far. Can you help here?

Thanks so much and all the best. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:08, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * DeFaultRyan, I see you are still tinkering with the standings template standardization project. Thanks for staying with that and let me know if you need anything from me. Jweiss11 (talk) 04:45, 18 October 2011 (UTC)