User talk:DeLarge/Archive 4

Freshwater
(originally posted at User talk:RobertG) I only just noticed this rename request after you did it, but as per the fresh water article (and its talk page), "fresh water" is a noun, "freshwater" is an adjective. In this context therefore, it should surely not have been split into two words when being renamed? Sorry I couldn't have noticed this sooner... --DeLarge 11:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! After I read your message I checked, and I found that on Merriam-Webster freshwater is actually both a noun and an adjective, but that's US usage: in British English is "freshwater" used?  Scotland uses British English.  Even if the move was superfluous, would the reverse move not be equally superfluous?  In any case, if you feel strongly perhaps you could take it back to CFD?  Best wishes,  --RobertG &#9836; talk 16:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! Just to help on this question. We do infact use the wording freshwater in the UK not fresh water, which would generally be used when saying such as "This is fresh water". to use fresh water when refering to rivers and Islands in the lochs would be incorrect. I spend a lot of time diving and doing underwater photography in Scottish Freshwater Lochs and rivers. I have accordingly placed some external links to freshwater & UK environmental agency websites on the Fresh water article, redirected List of fresh water islands in Scotland to List of freshwater islands in Scotland and sorted the category Category:Fresh water islands of Scotland to Category:Freshwater islands of Scotland as well as the associated linked articles. Richard Harvey 23:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh Jeeeez, what a mess. I guess I just "got involved". --DeLarge 21:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, no big mess, don't fret! I put it back to how it was, simply because cutting and pasting is not a valid way to do a page move (it loses the page's edit history), and then submitted the whole thing to CFD for a rename; I think that "freshwater" is probably best, but it needs a consensus.  I will leave a message for Richard too.  Best wishes, RobertG &#9836; talk 09:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

WRC
Thanks for your efforts on the WRC articles. I have worked on these a lot in the past but got caught up in my work for the WP:Novels. Is there any mileage in setting up a proper WikiProject as the Formula 1 project, but probably "a more modest" effort. :: Kevinalewis  :  (Talk Page) / (Desk)  17:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've thought about it, but don't know if it'd be worth it. Aside from User:SndrAndrss's repeated attempts to drag his knuckles up to his keyboard so he can insert incorrect event dates all over the place despite the ample verifiable evidence contradicting him, no-one seems really interested in contributing to past years. No point in a formal Wikiproject if there's only two or three members. Seems a shame, but then Wikipedia's full of teenage troglodytes only interested in the here and now. Historical records are reserved for Britannica, which explains the lack of so much as a stub here for multiple RAC Rally winner Roger Clark until I created one, but an entire well-populated category of professional wrestling moves. John Cena pwnz U d00d, etc etc. Sigh... --DeLarge 21:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Mitsubishi Pajero 2.5 Million units sold
mitsu sold 2.5 million pajeros since 1982. add it to best selling nameplates....cheers --193.77.132.133 17:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Proton
Funny why you can't accept the criticism, which is the truth. I as a ex-Proton owner know about it especially the car quality. You can't denial the Proton Iswara is still using the based chasis and engine from the 1985 Proton Saga. Even Proton themself accept the criticism and said they will try to improve. And you know that Lotus is bought by Tun Mahathir Mohamad and Proton is the pride of the country. Why the Waja is RM60k, and Honda City sold in Malaysia is RM80k but only RM50k in Thailand? Why Honda City get more duty & tax compare to Waja which pay less than 10% of tax from their total value? There were no direct facts but Malaysian know it. You can ask 10 Malaysian about Proton, i believe more than half will support my statement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.208.248.235 (talk • contribs) 16:01, November 7, 2006.


 * "Funny why you can't accept the criticism, which is the truth." As per Verifiability, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." Which is why your later statement, "There were no direct facts but Malaysian know it" was so damning to your case. See also Wikipedia is not a soapbox. --DeLarge 16:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

So can you prove Proton cars is reliable? And Proton car only officially export to Singapore in South East Asia, not all country in South East Asia as mention. So this is also not verifiability. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.48.199.129 (talk • contribs) 16:13, November 12, 2006.


 * Blah, blah, blah. Car still giving you problems, then?
 * I don't need to prove that they're reliable, as I'm not bitching about the cars (or saying they're any good either). I'm merely ensuring that the article is only about the car company itself, and not about one particular editor's bad experiences with one or two individual cars.
 * If you want to write something encyclopedic, you could do better than to search Google for two minutes. You could end up with "According to the first quality survey of Malaysian automobiles by global marketing information services firm J.D. Power and Associates in 2003, Protons suffered from a level of reliability below the industry average." That's the difference between editing and soapboxing. ''--DeLarge 16:47, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

License tagging for Image:DelicaD5.jpg
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 * Promotional tag now added. --DeLarge 00:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

E39A 6th Generation Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
I would like some input on expanding the 6th Generation E39A Galant VR-4 section. Another notable omission is that of the four wheel steering (4WS) similar to the 3000GT VR-4. Notably highlighting trim/build differences in the USDM version, different bumper, different headlights, lack of hood vents, different intercooler. including the inclusion of numbered badges affixed to the dash, and matching numbered key fobs. Available in only four colors. Another interesting tidbit is cruise control on a manual transmission.

Is there any information that we can offer from GalantVR4.org? There are a ton of original scans and technical info, including 3D cutaway views of the WRC Rally Galant VR-4. The E39a 6th generation just about needs its own sub-page.

Interesting piece of info came up in a thread regarding the origin of the Mitsubishi "Evolution". There has been a long running debate regarding the Galant VR-4 being called unofficially the Evo-Zero which has now become the Pre-Evo. This came from rumors that a version of the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 was produced with the "Evolution" title. One of our users offered the following information in a post. It contains a quote from published literature.

''Mitsubishi did officially produce a limited run of 500 'VR4 evolution' cars for public consumption in 1991-1992. Basically it came with all the RS goodies (16g, 510cc injectors, 4-bolt LSD etc.), but also all the luxuries (climate control, power windows etc.). You could say this was the first GSR-spec evolution. A lot of these cars have ended up in Aus/NZ it seems .....''

Another piece of evidence, if you like, quoted from 'You and your Mitsubishi Evo' by Andy Butler (pg 13-14):

''"....and then on the Greek acropolis rally the Galant VR-4 evolution appeared on the scene. This car boasted more power to test its more competent chassis, producing over 300BHP from its 4 cylinder, 16-valve motor. Easy to spot as the 'cooking' version, the Galant VR-4 evolution gained a bigger intercooler as well as a louvered bonnet....." ''

If possible could alternate English units for the statistics on the page be included in parentheses?

BTW, Excellent job on your whole Mitsubishi section. First rate job!!!

S firestone 02:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

World Rally Championship results
Hello! Can you write up the race results for the World Rally Championship from 1984 to 1991

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World Rally Championship 2006 results
Hi, was there a reason why you reverted the changes to this page? I thought the improvements were quite useful. This page looks bad when the tables are stretched to full page width, especially on widescreen displays but also on normal 4:3 displays greater than XGA resolution. Why did you revert those changes with no explanation in the edit summary? Andrwsc 19:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Because there are 34 pages of resultsfrom 1973, all of them following the same rough stylistic template, and the anonymous user (who had made no other contributions) changed two without any discussion or consensus and left the rest as they were; I reverted back to the consistent style followed on the rest of Template:World Rally Championship results. And I didn't explain it because I used popups, which fills in the edit summary automatically.


 * And for the record, as I recently mentioned on another talk page, 60% of internet users have a screen size of 1024x768, and there's as many using less than that as using more (see here and here for confirmation). Going on about what looks good at 16:9 or greater than XGA is only discussing what one in five Wikipedians can see.


 * So, I'm reverting again to restore a consistent style. If you want to revert, make sure you do all 34 pages instead of just one or two. But I'd recommend you discuss any changes at WikiProject World Rally. Among the members are the two editors who came up with the layout in the first place (I wasn't one of them, I only copied what was there). I'm quite happy to follow the will of the majority, but let's (a) follow due process before making blanket changes and (b) be consistent throughout. --DeLarge 20:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, fair enough. I am a strong advocate of consistency myself.  When I get some time, I shall update all 34 pages.  I viewed the pages again on a 1024x768 display, and they look bad there too.  There is far too much unnecessary whitespace to the right of the manufacturer and driver names, even at XGA resolution.  My goal is to format pages so that they look good for all Wikipedia readers, not just 4 out of 5.


 * More importantly, the table headings don't make sense. The "Events" column heading appears above the lists of manufacturers and drivers, which is clearly wrong.  That label should appear above the list of event flag icons.  Andrwsc 21:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the vandalism
Thanks for fixing the vandalism on my userpage. Now I can finally activate the 'userpage has been vandalized x times' userbox. Caper13 01:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

A word about the EPA size classification system
Classification of vehicle sizes by interior volume: it sounds great, but it doesn't work. I can prove this by using this example: say there's a hundred-foot car with the interior volume of a Honda Accord. Based on the EPA size classification system, it would be classified as a midsize car, which is what it classifies the Accord as. But since the car is 100 feet long, doesn't that seem like a bit of a stretch?Hondasaregood 15:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I never once offered any approval or endorsement of the EPA's methodology, so getting me to agree or disagree is irrelevant. The bottom line is that the organisation with the responsibility for classifying cars by size in the United States define the RL as mid-sized. Calling it full-sized is contradicted by a reliable source.


 * You are of course welcome to lobby the EPA directly if you think their system needs revising. Their contact details are available on their website, and if you choose to follow this route then I wish you all the best. If or when they revise the RL's classification I'd be delighted to restore your edit, but not before then. --DeLarge 15:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Rearcross and Rearcross Hall entries: Please Delete
I have contributed the above named articles, which you are, apparently, unhappy with. On reflection, I realise these contributions are personal observations, and are not suitable for Wikipedia. Therefore, I would request you to delete them. Thanks, MountainRambler69 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mountainrambler69 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

Rearcross and Rearcross Hall entries
I have "cleared" the contents of the above named entries, which I contributed, and later realised they were not suitable for Wikipedia. MountainRambler69

Re: Rearcross and Rearcross Hall entries
Hi, I had asked for the deletion of the above named articles. Instead, would you consider moving them to what might be a more suitable section of Wikipedia. As I stated earlier, the articles mostly consist of my personal views, along with references to people and events in Rearcross over the past few decades. I must admit that I would hate to see them disappear entirely from the project. If a section exists that might be suitable for the articles in their present style, I would wish to have them relocated, if at all possible. I have received many e-mails from overseas, with the correspondents'[all with ancestral connections to Rearcross], stating how much they enjoyed reading them. The articles were written, mainly, for emigrants from this particular corner of Ireland.

Thanks, MountainRambler69


 * They have been moved to your userspace, and can now be found at:
 * Rearcross
 * Rearcross Hall
 * Regards, --DeLarge 17:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

recent correspondence
Would you please delete the articles "Rearcross" and "Rearcross Hall" or, alternatively, move them to what might be a more suitable section of Wikipedia. The deletion notice presently accompanying the articles is, frankly, annoying. Surely, you must have something better to be doing with your time that interfering with articles of limited interest. In fact, outside of those who have connections with the place, they are totally irrelevant. I have absolutely no interest in the contents of your entries, and wouldn't bother wasting time over whether or not they were suitable for Wikipedia. No-one else has contributed to the articles mentioned, I was simply using other usernames earlier. I am asking for their deletion or re-location. Mountainrambler69 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mountainrambler69 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC).


 * I can't delete it, I'm not an administrator. However, please note that blanking it, as you have done, will not lead to the article being deleted, but staying in the database as an empty page. The deletion notice is necessary, as it adds the page to a category, Articles for deletion. If you keep removing the notice, you remove the page from the category and it will never be deleted. You just need to be patient and allow the process to run its course. --DeLarge 17:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks for your reply, and explanation. would it be possible to have the articles in question removed as canditates for deletion? as you can see, apart from antepenultimate there is no interest whatsoever in the fate of those contributions. I realise they contain a lot of personal opinions, that are not really encyclopedic. If I did some editing of the pages, would that solve the problem? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mountainrambler69 (talk • contribs) 12:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

Maserati MC12
Thanks a lot for making suggestions I'm currently working on them. :) James086Talk 05:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Autopista AP-7
Hello, you listed the article Autopista AP-7 as needing translation due to a section that describes exits and is predominantly in Spanish. Are you referring to the names of the exits in the tables, though? I doubt that anything would be gained by translating those as they are the names of towns, etc. If it is some other part, could you please put a more detailed description of the part you would like translated on the translation page? Thanks! -Yupik 08:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Most of the work seems to have been done by the user who was expanding the article when I posted the message; see diffs comparing tagged version to current one. --DeLarge 09:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, good! Thanks for the explanation! -Yupik 11:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Recreation of deleted {db-attack} material and other edits
Hi, and thanks for your comments. User:Yeahsoo seems to be an angry young Chinese POV pusher. From his edits so far I doubt that he can adapt to the NPOV at Wikipedia, since he is both very biased in his editing, and - judging from his English abilities - unable to understand the fine points of WP:NPOV or other rules at Wikipedia. Maybe it would be best to find a Chinese speaking editor/admin to talk to him. But so far I don't even know if he speaks Cantonese or Mandarin-- Chris 73 | Talk 23:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

(from User talk:Quarl) I flagged Kajima as yesterday and you subsequently deleted it, but it was recreated by the same user today. I've flagged it again for the same reason (and it has subsequently been deleted again before I could finish posting this). As can be seen by the user's contributions, he has an overt anti-Japanese agenda, and has been inserting links and contents to various corporate articles (Mitsubishi, Toyota, Xerox, Honda, etc) intended to disparage them. He had previously made identical edits under the IP 207.168.191.2. His initial edits were reverted by another administrator, User:Chris 73, who I will also contact. I then reverted the next round of edits yesterday. I plan on adding the or  template to his talk page, but in case he's in this for the long haul I wanted to be in the position of knowing that my next round of reverts have the endorsement of others, especially at admin level. Regards, --DeLarge 22:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for messaging me. I agree with Chris73 that he seems to have a strong anti-Japanese POV.  Thanks for helping make sure that all additions are referenced.  Unreferenced material, especially disparaging or libelous material, can be removed and such removal is generally allowed under WP:3RR. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-10 08:48Z 
 * Hi Delarge. FYI, I have no problems whatsoever with your edits on Toyota, and do not plan to revert them. Thanks for trying to keep Wikipedia neutral. Best wishes, -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Chris 73
I totally think Chris 73 as an angry young Japanese, as proved by what you have done. Say, if a article in Chinese name is created longtime ago. but Chris 73 moved it to janpanse name, and make an Chinese name redirect point to it. I have to ask why the Chinese name has to point to Japanese name. I agree you can add any your point of view NPOV on that article, but not on you can move or rename any article without any reasonable reason. I know that Chris 73 might be a admin, I think he is not qualified.:)--Yeahsoo 19:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Kajima
About Kajima, I simply add the part of history, you can not deny, I did not make that history. So you call it as ? Well so articles have to be good words? even a company use slave labers including American war prisoners? You can add some good parts, say, how Kajima succeeded in the business, that is your right. Yes, I like to add some negative info of Japanese, I add same thing for Chinese and American. At least I did not add any fake info.So Japanese must be exception? No one should blaim Japanese? If so, Japan has no hope.--Yeahsoo 19:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Please point out anti-japan tone in articles
Please list the anti-japan tone I have written, so I can change it.But If you refer list jpanese bad side as anti-japan tone, I will not agree with it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yeahsoo (talk • contribs) 19:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

Toyota
Let look it this way, recall is not a bad thing, Toyota will be glad to annouce recall since it cares suctomers. and may you can call a page that contains only bad words "disparage", but I only add some "sorry facts" of certain pages(even in Kajima, I still said he is the biggeest ...), at least I did not pur fake info. If they do not have those "sorry history" I will not add them. And it is someothers revert my edits without reasonable reasons, I think that is real "gaming the system" and "assuming bad faith". you better stop that, then that is fair. --Yeahsoo 23:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

IF YOU revert other's edit, at least leave a reason, better not gaming the system--Yeahsoo 23:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting!A "1m" toyota recall is not an issue, but others recall 0.9m is an issue? Even you sell 8m, so what? Even Toyota did not deny it, why you can not accept? It is just tell a fact, no POV at all. Or, do you work for toyota?--Yeahsoo 23:35, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * very good, you already did 3RR on toyota today, do you obey wiki rule? if so, you might need to block youself. Of course I will not ask you to do that, but when you revert other's edit, at least leave a reason. And for Canon, you have deleted the organization of Canon, while I just put it back, so be calm, you could have done things you do not want to do. : )--Yeahsoo 00:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply by User:DeLarge

 * "I totally think Chris 73 as an angry young Japanese..." (etc)
 * I haven't seen him spewing vitriol over articles, so we'll have to agree to disagreee on that.


 * "About Kajima, I simply add the part of history"
 * Kajima has been deleted twice as a, so obviously your idea of what you think makes a neutral article is being disputed by more experiences administrators. It's not up to other editors to add "good" facts to balance the page. It's up to you as the author to create a NPOV article in the first place. Clearly you failed in this.
 * yes, by some Japanese admin, a Kajima related is always forbidden. that is why no kajima topic at all. If someone deny this, please create one, so I can add the slave labor info into it. :)--Yeahsoo 23:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * (note: neither User:Eagle 101 nor User:Quarl, the two admins who deleted the articles, give any indication of being Japanese) --DeLarge 19:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Please point out anti-japan tone in articles
 * User contributions:Yeahsoo
 * I did not see anit-japan, all I add is truth, please list any fake info I add.--Yeahsoo 23:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * "...recall is not a bad thing..." (etc)
 * As already pointed out on your talk page, every one of the major manufacturers has had to recall 1m+ vehicles annually. It's a routine part of vehicle maintenance now. The trouble is that you insert it into only one article -- Toyota's -- giving it a dedicated heading, and represent this as a "quality issue". It clearly isn't. It's an unremarkable piece of service and support for car owners. It only becomes remarkable when, for example, Mitsubishi Motors does something stupid like trying to hide faults for 25 years, which is against the law. And that gets a mention in their article. See the difference?
 * I simply said they recall near 1m cars, and it is under recalls column, there is no bas words at all, it is someone himself too allergic  --Yeahsoo 23:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * "very good, you already did 3RR on toyota today, do you obey wiki rule? if so, you might need to block youself." (etc)
 * Don't kid yourself. Go read WP:3RR if you need an explanation of the rules. I've done two reverts in the last 24 hours.
 * ok, good job, it is your right.--Yeahsoo 23:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * --DeLarge 01:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Automobiles Notification
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To add yourself to the category just add the userbox to your user page by putting   where you want the userbox. Alternatively if you don't like the userbox you can add   to your userpage.

If you no longer wish to be a member of the project, simply don't add the userbox or category, there's no pressure. Thanks for your time, James086Talk 05:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

FIA European Championships for Rallycross Drivers
Hi DeLarge, Would you please move FIA European Rallycross Championship back to its correct title/name and note also the "s", as per FIA (see here: http://www.fia.com/sport/Championships/2006.html) and have a look at the official logo or inside the pdf regulations docs for the series. Thanx in anticipation! ;o) RX-Guru 10:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ironically, the page you link to displays both the mooted title and the current one (see sidebar link), and clicking through either the logo or the sidebar directs to "FIA European Rallycross Championship". Also, as can be seen at World Rally Championship, Formula One, World Touring Car Championship and most other pages in Category:Auto racing series, on the English Wikipedia we tend to follow the recommendations of the Naming conventions: "Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists." So if you'd like me to move it, European Rallycross Championship shall be its destination. Please let me know if this suits you, or whether you'd rather be bold. --DeLarge 22:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, the common English name for the series all over Europe is European Rallycross Championships (s = as there are three European titles available) or the ERC. I did not know about the English WP Naming conventions, in the German WP we prefer the official titles. The FIA webside sidebar is IMO just a simplification for website users while all official RX docs of the FIA or its Off-Road Commission show the full title, as in the logo. CU! RX-Guru 23:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Since you're cleaning up articles...
Since you're cleaning up articles with   in them, I was wondering if you know what happened to that template? --ric_man 07:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Was nominated for deletion on 8 December, deleted on 16 December. Link to TfD discussion. --DeLarge 10:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair call, and probably a better use as a Category. Being the original instigator of the template, I was hoping it was going to link "tuners" from around the world. I didn't think it would be used for advertising. --ric_man 08:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Good catch on the TVUnetworks Infobox. I stared at both it and the Infobox_Company documentation without seeing that rogue "_city" in there. Thanks, though it does make me wonder whether "location_city" is correctly implemented (or at least whether it could be implemented better). Paul.w.bennett 19:16, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Edits to Toyota Camry page
Your vandalism to the Toyota Camry, Generation II are not appreciated. Please get a life. Angry Aspie 02:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't care whether you appreciate my edits or not, they restored a degree of quality removed by your "contribution". Please note...
 * Your edits contravene several WikiProject Automobiles guidelines:
 * Do not use thumbnails in infoboxes, and keep the image to 250px.
 * Do not replace a perfectly acceptable image with one where the subject is behind a large pole.
 * You seem unaware that vandalism has a very specific definition on WP.
 * Comments like "get a life" on a user's talk page are indicitave of a lack of civility and a failure to assume good faith.
 * If you want to provoke an edit war, it won't just be with me. I'll be alerting the rest of the project to this matter, as well as the 3RR admins if necessary. Regards, --DeLarge 02:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Link Spamming
I think you were hasty in your decision. The links I placed were precise and specific to the Wiki articles that I placed them in. Also there is nothing for sale at my website nor do I take donations. I simply wish to contribute to the article without encumbering it with more content. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lonnie Randall (talk • contribs).


 * Please read WP:EL: "Links normally to be avoided:
 * 3. Links mainly intended to promote a website.
 * 11. Links to blogs and personal webpages except those written by a recognized authority."


 * If all you're doing is going round various articles inserting links to the same site, you're spamming. You don't need to be selling or advertising anything. See Wikipedia is not a collection of external links. --DeLarge 19:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The link I'm posting is directly related to Tolkien, Middle Earth, and the Lord of the Rings. Thanks.


 * The link i posted to gandalf here:
 * is totally acceptable. I doubt you even looked at it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.87.199.199 (talk • contribs).
 * And? You posted nothing but a link, and you did so on about 20 articles. That's spamming, and it's not acceptable. Wikipedia is not a collection of external links. --DeLarge 23:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * So you remove an external link from one page but leave similar ones? Brilliant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.87.199.199 (talk • contribs).
 * And I'll keep doing so. Read WP:SPAM before you do any bitching. You contribute links without content, you're spamming -- a blockable offence. --DeLarge 23:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Content within link relating to Gandalf: Please do not lie and pass it off as spam anymore... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Redpointist (talk • contribs).

