User talk:De Forest

I appreciate your additions to the Misha Sedgwick article but please use edit summaries or explain your edits on the talk page. Thanks. Thatcher131 04:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


 * please stop putting links to www.warholstars.org all over the article. Warholstars is not a verifiable publication in the same way that the Ney York Times or other newspapers are. I know that Jonathan Sedgwick claims he was contacted by Misha who blamed it on the writer, but for an article as contentious as this has been it is simply not a reliable enough source.  Warholstars is also not unbiased, like a newspaper hopefully is.  It has a strong interest in protecting the name of Edie Sedgwick.  Since the newspaper article says the same thing and is a more unbiased source in this case, please stop replacing the link. Thatcher131 05:53, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Please discuss changes to articles on the discussion page (click on the tab labeled "discussion" just to the right of the "article" tab. Thank you. Thatcher131 05:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

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Warholstars does meet the Wikipedia guidelines for a reliable source. The guidelines for using a website as a reliable source state that: "When a well-known, professional researcher writing within his or her field of expertise, or a well-known professional journalist, has produced self-published material, these may be acceptable as sources, so long as his or her work has been previously published by credible, third-party publications."

Every paragraph of Warholstars is footnoted (in parenthesis) indicating where the information came - either from a published source or interviews with people who were around during the Warhol era. This has been acknowedged by other scholars working in the field who have used Warholstars as a source. Warholstars is quoted in the following books as a credible source (a partial list):

A Matrix of Meanings: Finding God in Pop Culture by Craig Detweiler, Barry Taylor (Baker Academic, 2003)

Catharine Maria Sedgwick

 * Please list Catharine's page on the Sedgwick Family pages. She was Theodore's daughter De Forest 20:07 16 March 2006 (UTC)

misha
how do you know she's not related? its a new york post gossip article. i happen to know her, so i think its a rather unfair tag to have "no relation" right up there in the bio.

There is no direct relationship with Edie Sedgwick according to the New Haven Colony Historical Society's records. This fact was put in her biograghy to counter the false claims that Misha was Edie's niece, which even Misha admitted was untrue. De Forest 18 May 2006


 * warholstars.org claims that she has apologized to the family and that it was Braunstein's idea.  However, this is not cited in the article as it does not meet the wikipedia Reliable Source guidelines.  (She says she is a "distant" relation, which is hardly the same as being her cousin, as was hyped for the play.)  I also think it is a bit excessive to have it stated in the intro since it is fully explored below (and it is a bit sloppy for an encyclopedia) but I don't care enough to revert it back.  (It's actually a bit amusing to see it flip back and forth slowly every few days.  Some people take the smallest things so seriously.)  Someone connected with Ms. Sedgwick has complained to the Wikimedia Foundation about the article, but since everything is backed up per the Reliable Source policy, there is nothing that needs to be changed (except maybe the redundant "no relation").  Although I do not have access to the actual e-mail, I assume that if it made a strong and reliable claim that she is a close relative, that would have been communicated to me and I would be happy to have it included. Thatcher131 23:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I was told, first hand, by my friend, that Misha had made this claim to him that she was Jonathan Sedgwick's daughter. This is how Jonathan Sedgwick was initially informed of her false claim. De Forest 23:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Please do not add information to the biography without providing a reliable source. As you are aware, there have been multiple previous complaints about the articles information and as with all biographies of living people, it is very important to follow Wikipedia policy when editing the article.  Please review our policy on original research; information may not be added to articles based on your personal knowledge. Shell babelfish 19:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)