User talk:Deanowelsh

Copyvio
We welcome contributions but please write in your own words. Large copyright violations such as this or this are simply not acceptable. The latter is a sytle violation as well! Do you really think it is good style to create a continuous block of more than 8 kbytes of text unrelieved by any sort of paragraph breaks or headings? -- RHaworth 12:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I second that, but try not to take deletions personally. I threw several fits before I got into the hang of style and notability. But have a look at the first paragraph and see why people may have issues with the piece you chose even if it was all your own work.


 * Commanding an outstanding (Prove it is outstanding, everyone thinks their town is outstanding in some way) setting on the crest of a hill, and enjoying a picturesque (Why is it picturesque) viewpoint, Llantrisant's splendour (Is it splendid, if others disagreee it is just opinion) lies in its enchanting (Again this is opinion) beauty (opinion, unless it won a most beautiful village in Wales competition.) and celebrated (how is it celebrated, prove it or don’t use this type of word) past. The glory (again this is poetry not fact) of what was once a magnificent (once more, this is an encyclopedia, this is opinion)  hilltop fortress town was crowned by its medieval castle and fine (you could say 14th century, but not fine) parish church. Those landmarks still stand, surrounded by a cluster of homes, which cling precariously (this is not literal, they do not cling) to the steep slopes, and are scattered throughout the town's charming (charming won’t stick), unplannedBold text (prove it was unplanned, when were they laid? C12th, is so where is the proof they were unplanned) cobbled streets.


 * Make sure your work is your own, and back it up with references. If you need any guidelines, drop me a line.--FruitMonkey 13:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks gents, but I do feel VERY aggrieved that I'm being accused of plagarism. Nothing could be further from the truth as these words are copyright to myself. I'm a well known journalist, former newspaper editor and author of several books on both Llantrisant and Dr William Price with a wide knowledge of the area. I honestly am merely trying to assist Wikipedia by contributing articles about subjects that I know something about. I do apologise for offending anyone in this regard and will no longer contribute in the future. Regards DP.


 * This is a shame, especially from someone with so much to add. I'm a real amateur, but try to contribute as much as I can. When my first rugby articles were deleted I was gutted, but after I cooled down and spoke to other users I got into the hang of it. I never disputed your authorship and the article had lots of good information, but wikipedia has autobots set up to hunt and delete cut and pastes. You have much to contribute, I hope you change your mind.--FruitMonkey 20:29, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I too think it is a shame. But as an editor and author you really ought to be fully aware of: We would welcome your contributions but there are a few basic, simple standards that you need to follow. -- RHaworth 10:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * copyright! When I find the same text elsewhere on the web, I automatically assume copyvio. You had left no hint by edit summary, talk page comment or link in the llan.htm page that you were the author of the Wikipedia text. Please read sd-copyvio regarding proof of copyright permission.
 * style! Surely you realise that encyclopedic tone is different from newspaper or advertising tone. (I sometimes find Wikipedia tone stultifying but it is not worth deviating - you get stomped on very quickly.)
 * forks. One of the jobs of a newspaper editor is to ensure that two different reporters do not write up the same story on different pages of the newspaper - see Dr. William Price.