User talk:Deb/Archive 2

Clémentine of Orléan
Thanks for the feedback. It never ceases to amaze me that while Wikipedia has swathes of information on obscure fictional characters, there are people who either ruled or held great influence over nations that have been ignored. Cheers. --Roisterer 03:55, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sorry About That Chief
Salve, Deb! Sorry to see so few sympathized with you wanting to protect your user page. Don't understand how that could be so controversial. But so much that goes on this world is a mystery to me. Saw Shania Twain's new video for her song "Party for Two", which is shot in London for some reason. (The Royal Albert Hall serves as a backdrop to one sequence.) That made me wonder, is country music popular in Britain? And by country, I mean real country music, e.g. Patsy Cline, Hank Williams, Jr., Marty Robbins, Buck Owens, Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs, et alia. Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 18:26, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Sweepstakes
Did you move Sweepstakes to sweepstake? I know all about the plural rule, but in this case it's incorrect to place it at sweepstake. The word only exists in plural as far as I know and even if it isn't it is used far more often in its plural form. If you know more than I do, then please let me know. -- [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 20:53, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)


 * I barely know some of the Wikipedia conventions such as this plural rule! But in this case I believe that the non-plural form is clearly a back-formation. The term originated with horse-racing where each entrant put up a stake, and the winner would sweep all stakes. Compare famous horse race names such as the Belmont Stakes. Wait, I should add that as a note, shouldn't I? Anyway, thanks for both your input. I've wiki'ed before but only recently decided I couldn't stand using the Wikipedia and skipping over known elisions .... --Dhartung 21:52, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Moving French nobles
Could you hold off for a moment on moving the French nobles' pages I'm working on? I'd like to discuss what you're doing rather than get in a tug-of-war ;) --Tkinias 22:55, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. If you have concerns about anything else, just let me know on my Talk page. I'm friendly :) --Tkinias 11:22, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I put some thoughts up on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles). Comment away! --Tkinias 11:56, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Deb, thanks for leaving your welcome message. --Frankie Roberto 00:29, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)  23:42, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

English Civil War reversion
Understood and accepted. Benn M. 17:48, 2004 Dec 2 (UTC)

soap opera
I did a major overhaul of the article, and now most of it is skewed toward the US soap form. Could you possibly add (a lot) more about British soaps? Mike H 05:24, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)


 * Another thing that got my attention was the tacky purported "webcam picture" of Leslie Grantham. Please tell me what you think of its placement in the article. I find it purely disgusting and not at all encyclopedic. Mike H 02:05, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Deb. It's a common mistake (as a matter of fact I was searching on yahoo and I got several hits that had nothing to do with Governor John Sparks. By the way I LOVE your website! :)--[[User:Marie Rowley|Marie | Talk]] 00:39, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Need your help with horns and drums again...
Hi Deb. A full-blown revert war seems to have broken out on Drum and bugle corps (modern) and Drum Corps International... Various anonymous IPs are constructively vandalizing the page. Could these pages perhaps be protected in their current state, and, well, where do I go from here in dealing with the problem?

Thanks, Matt.

MattJ 20:00, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

List of songs with brackets in their titles
I noticed you've contributed to this page in the past. It is now on Votes for Deletion. Would you consider taking part in the vote? Thanks. David 5000 16:01, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Roman-Latin work by Cicero
Hi Deb -- I just wanted to confirm that it was I who sent you an email today regarding The Swan and Marcus Tullius Cicero. Warm regards, &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 23:18, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Any leads on the Cicero concrete poetry? :-)  (Happy New Year by the way)  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 10:09, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * For what its worth, I wanted to touch base with you once more &mdash; were you able to find anything regarding The Swan and Cicero? &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 08:16, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

article Carl Drega
Hi Deb, thanks for your interest in this article. Your help is appreciated. But the problem is: The article as it was first created was a direct copy-paste job from a homepage, and again, the text there seems to be the copy of a mailinglist posting, and it isn't clear how the site owner is related to the original poster. Now that text is in the history forever. I thought policy was to avoid such things? I know it's my fault, i should have listed it as copyvio first and ask then, but i was in a hurry ahd had the faint hope that i can avoid the hassle with listing a copyvio this time. What do i do now about this? My proposal: save your text to my disk, revert to copyvio version, list as copyvio, copy your text int carl derga/temp. What do you think? Sorry for all this. Lady Tenar 22:54, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Adminship Again
Salve, Deb! Well, after my unsuccessful candidacy back in September, I've been working away and have now decided to try again, nominating myself. I'd appreciate your vote at Requests for adminship/PedanticallySpeaking2. Ave atque vale! PedanticallySpeaking 18:53, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Salve, Deb! I wanted to drop you a line to thank you for your support in my successful RFA candidacy. It was very gratifying to see the kind remarks posted in the debate.  And as someone who has run for office in the real world, I can't accept your statement that perhaps I didn't need your vote.  Every vote is important, contrary to what some elements would have us believe.  Ave!  PedanticallySpeaking 17:34, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

RFC pages on VfD
Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:33, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Archaeology wikiproject
Thanks for signing up Deb. I've got no set ideas about what we should be covering and just sketched out the current page to make it look busy. Any suggestions you have will be gratefully received even if you don't feel like writing anything. There's certainly lots of Welsh stuff that could be added and categorised like all those lovely megalithic and Roman sites. As a side thought, could you check the English translation of Bryn Celli Ddu if you have a moment? Cheers adamsan 13:54, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

WP:VfD
Heya Deb -- good finds for VfD, but I note you pretty consistantly do the header wrong on your VfD entries. Please remember it is ===Title=== -- three equal signs -- otherwise one or another of us has to go in and fix it. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 17:50, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Leonora
Hi Deb. Some time ago I wrote an article entitled "Leonora". You moved it to Leonora, Western Australia and made Leonora a disambiguation page. However your entry "Leonora is a girl's name" will never have a link and could be argued against from the "wikipedia is not a dictionary" point of view; and your link to "original name of, and name of character from, Fidelio" appears to be incorrect, since the article on Fidelio refers only to "Leonore" not "Leonora". I left it as a disambig page for a couple of weeks to see if any other links got added, but they haven't. I have now converted Leonora into a redirect to the Leonora, Western Australia. Hesperian 02:20, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

My comment that it will "never have a link" was poorly expressed. What I meant was that Wikipedia does not, and is unlikely ever to, have an article on Leonora in the sense of a girl's name; therefore the entry "Leonora is a girls' name" will never be wikified to point to an article.

Granted Leonora, Western Australia is a very minor and largely unknown town, but I still find it a little difficult to accept that people who search for "Leonora" on Wikipedia are more likely to have have intended "Leonore" than what they actually typed. And regardless of their intentions, "... Fidelio, in which the heroine is named Leonora" is a false statement.

Since I'm pretty new around here, I'll leave the final decision to you. If you revert to a disambig page, I won't argue. But if you do revert, I think the Leonore/Leonora issue should be addressed. Something like "The name Leonora may be confused with Leonore, the original title of Beethoven's opera, Fidelio" would do the job. Hesperian 22:41, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Port of Napier
Hi Deb, I'm in the process of creating a substub and adding links as we speak. Thanks. Christiaan

Abraham Goldfaden
I don't necessarily object to your removing the stub notice from Abraham Goldfaden (which is mostly my work) but it still has almost nothing about his life after 1876: the bio currently cuts off before he founded the first professsional Yiddish theater. I'm planning to work on it over the next few weeks, but I didn't feel I was yet out of stub territory. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:04, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)

Stupid Newbie Tricks
Hi Deb: I'm a newbie and you left a welcome note on my page. Hope I'm not bothering you. I uploaded an image, Image:Hebron.jpeg that needs to be deleted. The image is of Hebron, Labrador. After hitting the key, I realized like a dolt that there is a much more famous Hebron in the world. I re-uploaded the image as Hebronlabrador.jpg, but I couldn't get rid of the earlier version. Thanks, and sorry to make work for you... wiegee 02:10, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

re: disambig
I should have checked first. Thanks. Inter 21:36, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Gangtok
Hi! On Dec 31, you had marked Gangtok as a geo stub. Well the page is now fully mature and on Peer Review. If you want you may check it out. Regards, Nichalp 19:39, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

styles
Hey Deb,

I've made a proposal for dealing with the issue of using styles on the talk page about Naming Conventions (names and titles). I'd welcome your imput. FearÉIREANN 17:25, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

LCOTW
Hi deb, nice to find a fellow Celt (my username is the Irish word for poetry). I like your external user page; fortunately I do so little around here, and most of it on such minority interest subjects, that nobody has ever vandalised my user page, but if they did, I'd want to protect it thereafter. I've updated the LCOTW to Scottish literature; sorry for the delay and the lack of activity. The lesson seems to be: beware of Greeks bearing candidates. I will try to do some work on the Scottish artice, but most of my time here is currently going into The Cantos, which involves a lot of reading and care, especially as, by my standards at least, this is a controversial subject. I'm also trying to cut back on my wikiwork so as to leave some time for my own writing.

Anyway, I've taken up enough of your time. Thanks for the prod, I'd actually been meaning to change the collaboration but just not getting around to it. Take care. Filiocht 08:40, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kind words. I still have a lot of work to do on the Cantos article. Two more volumes to read through and write up, a Legacy section to add and a re-write of the introductory sections, plus a general tidy-up. And lots to add to List of cultural references in The Cantos, the sort of thing that does actually show the strengths of the Wikipedia model (so few red links so far!). I hope to take my volumes of Scottish Chaucerians off a shelf over the next few days and see if I can write anything useful on them. Filiocht 13:06, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Mary Ann Caws
Thanks for the copy edit. Stirling Newberry 22:05, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wisin y Yandel
Sorry, I guess right after you deleted I had saved my edit where I added the speedy deletion template. Aequo 17:47, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Palace Theatre disambiguation
Thanks for disambiguating! I will write a stub for Palace Theatre, Manchester soon. &#8211;&#8211; Constafrequent (talk page) 22:23, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Long Time No See
Salve, Deb! Hope this message finds you well. We haven't communicated lately, but I've not been as busy as I once was, plus the library cut down the time patrons can spend on the computers. When I stood for admin, I was pleased to say I'd never been involved in an editing kerfuffle. And now I'm in my first one. See Julia Stiles and Talk:Julia Stiles. I wonder if you might give me your opinion of the objections on the talk page? Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 18:05, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

Deb, Thanks for your reply. This morning I went and created a nice bibliography in anticipation of incorporating new material in the Julia Stiles article and he just completely deleted it, said it wasn't necessary, Cite your sources notwithstanding. See Talk:Julia Stiles for what I'm talking about. Articles are supposed to have bibliographies, right? PedanticallySpeaking 19:32, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)

Yaraborough/Yarborough
Somebody (not you) just created a short, inadequate page on Ralph Yaraborough. We already have a good one on the real Ralph Yarborough. If I knew how to do it, I'd put this new page out of its misery. Perhaps you can. 24.126.41.116 13:15, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC) (aka Italo Svevo when I'm able to log in.

Richard III
You wrote: Just to let you know, out of courtesy, that I reverted your latest changes to this controversial article, because they seemed to infringe the NPOV rule. Ironic, since both the things I wrote (which are easily verifiable facts) were put there because what was already there seemed to be non NPOV. The article mentioned that he was frequently referred to as deformed, but made no attempt to show that this was almost certainly untrue. It also referred to the fact that he had means available to kill the princes, but made no attempt to mention that he was not the most likely culprit (in fact, he had to put measures in place after the deaths in order to maintain his position) Grutness|hello? 22:00, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Shock to the System
Several months ago you suggested that Shock to the System (a plot summary for a Static Shock episode) be deleted, but that never happened. It's currently under consideration for deletion, and I thought you might want to cast a vote for it. Tverbeek 12:57, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

FAC check
Salve, Deb! After completely rewriting the Julia Stiles article we discussed previously, I've posted it as a WP:FAC candidate here. I'd welcome any comments and (hopefully) your vote supporting it. Hey, did you see my article Cincinnati, Lebanon and Northern Railroad got Featured status? Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 18:56, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)

Alrosking
Put it back.--The person who made "Alrosking" 17:34, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Translating English articals into Welsh
Hello! I do not myself speak Welsh- but am atempting to learn. I have recently discovered Wikipedia and have contributed to some articals. I would really want these articals translated into Welsh, with the hope fo indirectly contributing to the Welsh side. I recognize that you are a prolific contributer yourself, but I was hoping that you might translate some of my articals for me. Or maybe direct me to someone who might like to translate?

Arwel Perry offered yorself as someone who might be able to assit me... or know someone who would want to increase the Welsh Wikipedia by translating good articals.

Though I do not yet know Welsh enough to write in it, I do want to contribute to Welsh Wikipedia, even if indirectly. Any help you might be able to give will be greatly appreciated! Drachenfyre

Denholm Elliott
Hi, Deb. Way back in Jan 2003 you wrote the initial Denholm Elliott article. The claim that he was gay is now being debated, so I was wondering if you could remember where you got this info from? Thanks! Jihg 08:47, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

65.39.159.10
Thank you for blocking 65.39.159.10. Great help --Bucephalus 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh dear, these "naming conventions"! Thanks anyway Peter Shearan 05:25, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

El Salon Mexico;
My apologies &mdash; I didn't realise that I'd overridden your edits. The History shows that we were three minutes apart, so I don't see how it could have been an edit conflict, yet I was completely unaware of what you'd done. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 18:21, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Holman Fred Stephens
Hello Deb In much the same vein as one of the comments above I cannot quite see why you moved the article entitled Colonel H.F. Stephens to Holman Fred Stephens. As a fan of Col Stephens (and although I knew his full names) I know he would never be recognised as such within the context of his railways (see Colonel Stephens Railways article). In fact his whole life was tied up with "his" railways, and I was about to merge his name with the much longer (and in some cases inaccurate!) article on them when I came across your redirect. Indeed, if the new article were re-entitled Colonel Stephens and his railways it would make much more logical sense: we could then include his full name within the biographical details which need doing anyway. Peter Shearan 12:17, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Chocolate chips
I'd be happy to feature this in DYK, but it's still stubby. Could you please expand it first? Mgm|(talk) 11:48, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

MJ Coldwell
Deb, why did you move this article from Major James Coldwell to James Coldwell? As the article says, he was commonly known as MJ, not James. Ground Zero 21:15, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks muchly. But don't be so hard on yourself, being a Corrie fan makes you alright in my books. Ground Zero 21:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hello, yourself
Thanks for the note. I've had a wiki account for months and months and months, but um, it's only now that I have dared make a real live edit to a page that is not a sandbox :) Telsa 17:07, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And yes, that's me (wince). Haven't touched that page though. Whilst I know you're there, can I ask a quick question? I have just got side-tracked following links, and ended up reading an argument about "frequent edits", which some people seem to consider a bad thing. Is what I have been doing to the Swansea page (a series of changes one/a group at a time) a bad thing? I have read about 20 pages on wikipedia policy and almost-policy today trying to find out, but I can't find anything about it. I'm not trying to get my edit count up; it's just old habit so that if any single change is a problem, it can be removed singly. Erm. Only perhaps wikipedia doesn't work that way? Telsa 17:30, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Phew, thanks! Ymlaen, 'te, and onto the further splendours of Swansea... Telsa 17:44, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi Deb!
Hey,

Long time no see. I hadn't seen you around. I was worried you had gone. Don't know how long I'll be on, but I have been bitten by the wikipedia bug and 'tis a hard bug to shed! Hopefully I'll be around for the long haul. I am already getting my teeth into it. Even spending 'all nighters' :( I was working last night on Papal Tiara til the wee hours. BTW I've nominated it for as a featured article candidate. I'd welcome your views.

So what have you been up to?

I've realised that kicking wikipedia is like kicking smoking. I haven't the willpower to do both!!!

Lots of love, Fear ÉIREANN  19:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Possible impostor
I've been doing some impostor hunting lately, seeing as how we've had a rash of them lately and all, and you got the following hits:. Of course, this may be nothing, but I thought I would let you know. – ClockworkSoul 04:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Quick advice?
Hey, I want to make a major proposal &mdash; to replace AD/BC with CE/BCE. I am not asking if you agree (though of course I appreciate your views) but I wonder if you have any idea how I should make this proposal? There has been a long debate on the Jesus page, and my explanation for my proposal is very very long. It affects many pages, not just Jesus. And my proposal is I think too long to put on all the relevant talk pages. Is there any convention? Thanks, Slrubenstein  |  Talk  20:54, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

User:Bastard on Wheels
Please block. Sjakkalle 12:42, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Removal of blank category only pages.
I disagreed with your "It's not a good idea to create pages consisting of a template and no content. These will be deleted.". I think it is a good idea, as the incomplete page then appears in more places and thus more people will see it and increase the chance of people editing. blob 15:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Misspelling and Miscategorization of Adolph Wagner
To place the entry for Adolph Wagner under Adolf is certainly wrong, it is ill-advised and makes research more difficult; I wonder why it was done, and apparently without checking the facts? The German "ph" in names does not mutate into, or is ever transliterated into, "f", in proper names. It is not a general rule, neither in English nor in Wikipedia (I don't see an entry on "Fotografy". In this case, it is especially counter-productive, because the name exists in both spellings.  Adolph Wagner always spelled his name the correct way, in all letters, in all publications.  And finally, there actually exists an economist (of minor importance, but still) by the name of Adolf Wagner.  I hope someone can revert this. Clossius 11:01, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Photographs of Siegfried Sassoon
Deb please review the talk page on the above subject. Wjbean 18:45, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

Welsh people section?
Hi again. I've been plodding through the "What links here" stuff for Welsh and trying to disambiguate a lot of links. Looks like you're doing exactly the same at the same time. I was wondering about some of the remaining ones. It's easy to redirect some links to Welsh language or Wales, but I was starting to wonder whether it was worth creating some sort of category or page for Welsh people, too, for the pages where the links aren't really relevant to the language or the place..? --Telsa 00:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, I have now found a whole heap of other places to send them: Welsh mythology, Welsh literature, Welsh poetry, Culture of Wales and the rest, which is helping. I don't know much about how to make categories, and Welsh and Wales already seem to suffer from a lot of "Welsh something" and "Something of Wales" articles which aren't heavily linked-to and overlap as it is. When I saw the Welsh people article (pre-redirect) I did think of actually giving it some content. If that helps, I could do that. Or does the removal of the redirect mean you're working on that? Failing that, I start to think that unwiki'ing Welsh where there's no useful link might be simplest, although not the ideal solution! --Telsa 16:22, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Eep. I'll see what I can do :) --Telsa 16:45, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the greeting!Yo Mama 5000

User 217.140.193.123
hey wow, thanks alot that´s really nice of you. i don´t understand what that user´s problem is, did you have a similar experience? i mean we can talk about anything, but he´s written a couple of nasty stuff on my talk page that i had to delete as well...

which part did you not like about the discussion? i would love to hear your opinion as well, again i´m trying to build consensus here because alot of the naming rules are really all over the place. thanks again for offering your help, really appreciate it. Antares911 29 June 2005 18:34 (UTC)

User:Antares
The comparison http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AManual_of_Style_%28Thailand-related_articles%29&diff=17848782&oldid=17835375 shows clearly that user Antares has erased my relevant comment from a TALK page. That of course is a reason to ban Antares. 217.140.193.123 29 June 2005 22:42 (UTC)

If I could reply to the above user, who doesn't have a login name, I would say, "Have you checked with Antares that he doesn't have a valid reason for removing these comments?" Deb 30 June 2005 15:54 (UTC)

You can read the commentary I wrote and which is in question now. There I made a detailed explication of reasons to take into account when naming such articles. Quite objectively. The reason why Antares opposes those is obviously that Antares disagrees. Thar is presumably Antares' REASON to removal. There clearly exists no VALID reason, as talk page is intended for precisely such comments and arguments. Perhaps Antares felt that my reasons are too good to rebut effectively, and decided therefore to remove. 217.140.193.123 7 July 2005 09:08 (UTC)

Category:UK Wikipedians
Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 19:12 (UTC)

User page
Hi Deb. Thanks for the comment :-), but I won't take credit lol - it's stolen (with permission) from User:ClockworkSoul as html code rather scares me. Craigy (talk) June 30, 2005 21:05 (UTC)

The Swansea page
Hi Deb,

I'm sorry that the counties issue has spilled over onto the Swansea page (and other pages about UK places, too).

For my part I'm going to try to kill the debate by simply not adding to it any more. The Swansea talk page should be for the editors of the Swansea article as an aid to improving it.

You may already be aware that the UK county names debate continues to rattle on. It should have been wrapped up a year ago but frustratingly it refuses to lie down :-( Chris Jefferies 1 July 2005 10:31 (UTC)

I can be rather bitchy and tongue-in-cheek sometimes. Glad my comments can amuse sometimes. :-) Fear ÉIREANN (talk) 1 July 2005 22:51 (UTC)

Hey
Hey,

I'm sure like everyone you are stunned by today's bombing. It is the talking point in Ireland. Everyone is disgusted. President McAleese was on the 9 O'Clock News expressing her horror at what was happened. My sympathy to all British people on this outrage.

Fear ÉIREANN SOLIDARITY WITH THE PEOPLE OF LONDON\(caint)  7 July 2005 21:07 (UTC)

opinion sought
Hey Deb,

I have re-opened the issue of the royal stub at. I think having it produce a noble link is farcical. Those who did it originally were no doubt well meaning but I don't think they really understood what they were doing. Nobility and royalty are not the same. Your opinions would be welcomed.

Fear ÉIREANN SOLIDARITY WITH THE PEOPLE OF LONDON\(caint)  7 July 2005 23:41 (UTC)

naming conventions
Someone added in a sneaky edit into the Naming conventions (names and titles) last April changing the rules to be used for the Queen Mother. Another user spotted it and pointed it out to me yesterday. I removed the offending edit, which had no consensus behind it, merely a unilateral edit. (It may not have been noticed because Lulu was messing around later and had his changes reverted. People may not have noticed that before then another more serious change was made. However User:Antares911 is not happy and is accusing me of changing Wikipedia policy, whereas in fact I was restoring it to the agreed convention. Your opinions would be welcome. Fear ÉIREANN  SOLIDARITY WITH THE PEOPLE OF LONDON\(caint)  18:22, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Oh dear god
Oh dear God. What the hell is he doing? *sigh* AAaaAGH! I'll see what I can do. Fear ÉIREANN \(caint) 20:13, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Deb, please do not do such high-handed moves. That resulted in an impractical heading. You know very well that there was no consensus on such renaming. Having seen what you wrote on a talk page, your behavior also leaves a lot to be desired. Arrigo 00:43, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Elizabeth II renaming (round XXXIV)
You may have noticed *mega sigh* that yet another user has dragged up the lets rename Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom farce, only 9 days after the last vote ended. (What next? A vote every day on the issue next?) I have proposed instead this vote on Talk:Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom page:

That Wikipedia stop wasting time on endless revoting on this goddamned issue and ban votes on this issue from this page for at least six months.

Hopefully this will put this nonsense to bed for at least 6 months. Your (hopefully final) vote would be welcome. Fear ÉIREANN \(caint) 21:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Dear old DW
How could I forget? :-) I am however having a bit of fun myself. A pillock called Skyring (or should be be Possessive Pete - you'd swear he had a crush on me or something!) has been stalking me for a few weeks. The arbcomm banned him for a month for it. Now he is appearing as a set of sockpuppets! Obviously the spawn of DW!!! Fear ÉIREANN \(caint)  23:14, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Is it possible?
Hi Deb, I was wondering, is it possible to have a user account deleted? What it is I plan to concentrate more on the Welsh version of Wikipedia and I do not want to come back to this English version. I do not want to leave this account unused. I was wondering if it is possible to have my account deleted at a certain time?

Draig goch20 23:55, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

This is how I see it. Since I can use my I.P. Address (If not blocked), I can use that to    place the Cy links into the English project. I would enjoy using the Wicipedia Cymraeg experience to keep up with my Welsh. I have not had a good experience with the English project and my time on here has not been a good experience. It would be nice to cancel my account forthwith and concentrate more on what I enjoy, the good environment of the Welsh Wicipedia.

Draig goch20 17:07, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

If you can, and allowed to, you could lock my user-page. Don't do it if you can't that would be alright. Let me know beforehand in the Welsh wikipedia.

Draig goch20 21:09, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Allech chi amddiffyn fy tudalen ond ymadael fy tudalen sgwrs fi.

Draig goch20 22:19, July 21, 2005 (UTC)


 * Note from Deb: See below for the kind of thing he's referring to.

Request to you to refrain from misrepresentation
When making a RM regarding article Alexandra Fyodorovna of Hesse, you Deb represented the case in the page Requested moves by alleging that the move would be "back" to Alix of Hesse. However it is very clear that is misrepresentation of the issue. The article was never at Alix of Hesse and such address does not yet exist. Thus the proposed move cannot be "back" to that and it is not "previous" address. And, you claim as your apparently only reason for move, by the brief presentation space in general page RM that "The present article title is untenable. However, being "untenable" is an opinionated allegation and does not have any place in proper representation of renaming need. There you fail to present the proposal in neutral terms. Moreover, in the Talk page (Talk:Alexandra Fyodorovna of Hesse) when giving your grounds for proposed move, you wrote "Arrigo, who carried out the move to the present name, evidently has no understanding of these standards". That is clearly a personal attack. And moreover, has no solid grounds. The answer, predictably, was "In my opinion, evidently Deb has no understanding of these standards. In that short space, you have apparently misrepresented a case in general RM page, also used only an opinionated opinion in general RM page as the only reason for move, and also made a personal attack. Could you kindly refrain from such behavior in the future, and could you kindly amend and correct those you made. 217.140.193.123 16:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Those who know Deb and have admired her fairness and calmness know that the charges are grossly inaccurate and simply wrong. Fear ÉIREANN [[Image:Ireland coa.png|20px]]\(caint)  17:36, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


 * If I could understand what he's on about, it might be worth responding. But it's fairly obvious that English isn't his first language, and he's just trying to get a rise out of me.  It won't work. When you've been baited by Isis and survived, anything less is just a joke.  Deb 20:40, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

re message on my talk page: I'm not suprised that you didn't remember what the original title was correctly, there have been so many. I haven't got a clue what the correct name is I just like to try and help sort out messes! Thryduulf 22:25, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Sossal and the Realms
Hello

I'm doing articles for all of the Forgotten Realms. It takes time and I'm doing it one thing at the time. For now on, for efficiency, I'm just doing the basics. The main page is List of Faerûnian countries. Reply to David Latapie 17:50, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Great :-) I know there is a template is a template for work in progress. Do you know it name? Reply to David Latapie 18:09, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Alexandra Fyodorovna of Hesse
Yep. vote early and vote often. That is how the mung we have on WP:RM and Approval voting works. Just add your prefrences to the bottom of the list and vote for them. If you look at Talk:Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden you will see an example of a really nasty vote where I learnt a lesson or two! But on the second vote, to get my compromise option in I waited until it was clear that my first option would not be accepted and voted for a second option because I did not want the other name which had more votes than my first option getting in. Philip Baird Shearer 17:18, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

thank you for your support
hi Deb, thank you for your kind words. i´m honestly at a loss sometimes. of course I make mistakes too i admit that, i just don´t know how to work all the rules properly because i am new and it takes alot of time to learn everything properly. but the way i am just barraged sometimes... anyways. thanks again, your words give me some hope :-) Antares911 16:50, 23 July 2005 (UTC) btw i was going to post some new revised rules on the naming conventions. you have voiced your objections, if you want i can send them to you and you can give me your input if you care?

Tudor style
Hi as you have contributed to the above page perhaps you would like to comment on the idea proposed here. Regards Giano | talk 21:46, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

My thoughts
Regarding user:Arrigo's comment on my talk page, I thought you might want to read my reply. Long story short - please be more careful about these kinds of things, to avoid the appearance of impropriety. &rarr;Raul654 04:37, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

Wrong IP address
The 69.whatever address looks like it's registered to Psb777, hence the literacy. Arrigo's dial-up account is with dnafinland.fi, and most of their dialup pool is in the 62.78.*.* range. He mostly alternates between logged-in and his DSL IP, but he used the dialup acct. to canvass for votes recently: see 62.78.105.68 contributions. The comment on Raul's page, though, just appears to be some random reflexive anti-admin ax-grinder. Choess 23:08, July 25, 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh, the technical evidence is ironclad. 69.10.141.71 resolves to a server acknowledged on the webpage of the user of the Psb777 account...who seems of late to have developed an enduring grievance against The System and the representatives thereof. The business certainly aggravates my temper as well; but when lawyers go to sea, if you take my meaning, I think it's best to be scrupulous to the point of being punctilious in return. Disarms 'em, and they may feel constrained towards propriety. (Oh, and I doubt the Maltese gentlemen have aught to do with this, as I can't see them dialing-up a Finnish ISP regularly. Odd coincidence, though.) Choess 00:33, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Lindisfarne Castle
Hi Deb, Brookie here - I've had a go at strengthening this article a bit. :) A curate's egg 15:59, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Deb - thanks for the note; unfortunately the bottom picture isn't mine - I just knicked it from the Lindisfarne article page! :) A curate's egg 19:06, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi, Deb. I just wanted to thank you for your support and your words in my RfA. Nice touch of practicality in your user page, by the way. Thanks again! Redux 01:39, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Wendy Hiller is laden in POV
Congratulations. :) I randomly selected you from a list of contributors to the Wendy Hiller article.  The biography is excellent, but heavily laden in POV.  Would you be interested in working together to help correct this?  Hall Monitor 22:39, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Mmm, I see what you mean, but why do you need help? You seem pretty capable.  Are you saying you don't know much about her?  Or do you just want to present a united front?  Deb 22:42, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * All of the above-- by no means am I an expert on Hiller, and there appear to be several editors who are actively engaging in reinserting POV corrections. Any help you might be able to provide would be greatly appreciated.  :)  Hall Monitor 22:46, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I fiddled a bit. Did it help at all? Deb 19:04, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, it looks wonderful! Thanks for all of your help, Deb.  Hall Monitor 20:25, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Welshipedia
Hi, thanks for the invite but the fact is that my Welsh is so abysmal I couldn't possibly contribute anything. I'm cy-1 in reading (passive understanding) but have zero writing skills. --Angr/undefined 17:56, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Hello
Hello, Deb. Thanks for the message. It's nice to know that people still think of me, even if I am being an evil skiver. :) I've just popped in this morning to undo a whole load of vandalism that I noticed, as it looked as if the active sysops were having a nap at the time. ;) But I don't know about coming back properly. I became quite cross with Wikipedia, and it takes me a while to get over things! But I am feeling left out of all the developments to the project that have appeared over the past year, or however long it's been. How are you finding life at Wikipedia these days? -- Oliver P. 10:37, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh, not good, then... I'm sorry to hear it. :( I might sort of partly come back, but I've finally got round to getting a proper job, which seems to have had the effect of eating all my time! But maybe. And let's hope that some other people come back, too. Or you could always just join us in leaving... ;) -- Oliver P. 13:03, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Biography Collaboration of the eek: Rodgers and Hammerstein
Rodgers and Hammerstein was listed as a candidate for the Collaboration of the week recently. Unfortunately, the nomination dropped out. I have renominated it on the Biography Collaboration of the week however - come and support the nomination there!--Fenice 16:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

crowns and paranoia
Hey, Deb

I had a message typed up for your page a couple of days ago but my browser crashed and I lost it. I forgot to reply again. Re consort crowns &mdash; I have a booklet from the Tower of London with pictures but they are all crown copyright. I searched the net to see I could find any non-copyright or fair use images but there are none of the consort crowns. It is a pity. The Crown of Queen Mary is particularly beautiful, while the image I could find of the Crown of Queen Alexandra is pretty poor. It is a particularly odd-looking, European-style rather than British-style crown. The Crown of Mary of Modena is rather theatrical &mdash; it looks like something from a Gibert and Sullivan operetta, or a 1940s Hollywood film rather than a real crown. Luckily the Crown of Queen Elizabeth does have images from her funeral that can be used.

Re User:Fenian Swine &mdash; oh goody. Another paranoid Irish republican, to join the handful of others and the paranoid unionists on here. No wonder most Irish people are heartily sick and tired of both of them, their in-your-face POV and their self-righteous attitude. Both sides are as bad as each other sometimes. Well if he wants to get himself banned for having an offensive username he is going the right away about it. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 22:19, 8 August 2005 (UTC)