User talk:Deborahjay/Archive 2009-2014

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Reference Desk
Thanks much for the response! I'd assumed that it was biblical Hebrew, simply because...well...I expected that a synagogue would have a biblical Hebrew name, not a modern one. Nyttend (talk) 15:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Raduf is a passive participle/adjective of the Qal stem (which is generally active), while Nirdaf is a form from the Nif`al stem (which is passive/intransitive as a whole). AnonMoos (talk) 01:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Dear Friend you could translate in Hebrew Gianluca Ramazzotti and Lola Pagnani? I thank you in advance!
Dear Friend, writes if out of politeness you could translate in Hebrew these two Italian friends of mine: Lola Pagnani and Gianluca Ramazzotti. Both are of the extraordinary actors. In change they macaws to your disposition for burdens translation of your interest in Italian and Sicilian and other Italian dialect. The takes an interest me particularly of biography, geography, history, politics. The hopes that we could put in accord. In attends him The thank you in advance!--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 14:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Champroux
It's nice to know you found my contribution valuable. That GEOnet site is a great thing. --Milkbreath (talk) 11:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Röhricht
Hi Deborahjay! Yes, Röhricht certainly does deserve an article. For the past few weeks I have been scouring the Internet looking for digitized copies of old books about the crusades, so we can even ive external links to some of his works. There are many other important crusade historians who are also missing articles, but I'll see what I can cobble together for Röhricht. Adam Bishop (talk) 15:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Et voilà, Wikipedia now has the Internet's finest article about Reinhold Röhricht! Adam Bishop (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! I was pretty pleased with it as well! It seems rare that someone asks a question for which we don't already have an article, and even rarer that it is a question about something I study. It's not quite done yet, I still have to look up one obituary that's not online, and I may have missed some of his publications. Hopefully I can find as much info about some of the other 19th-century historians we're still lacking. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Woman in the IDF
Dear Deborahjay: I have responded to you on User talk:Bielle to keep the comments together. Thank you. // BL \\ (talk) 16:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

http://www.el-akko.info/page.asp?id=94
It's the Jerusalem Cross or Crusader's cross, which in yellow-on-white (or gold-on-white) form was the symbol of the old Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem (see Image:Flag_of_Kingdom_of_Jerusalem.svg etc.). It can have various symbolism, as you can see at Cross, but I'm not really sure what's so "Cosmic" about it. There's probably further info in Rudolf Koch's classic Book of Signs... AnonMoos (talk) 21:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Nazi, Swastika References Being Purged from Syrian Social Nationalist Party
Would you mind having a look at the problem of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party's Nazi history and swastika flag being systematically deleted/vandalized? This removes an important aspect of neutrality from the article. References from many reliable sources are provided. See its talk page. The edits are being done by users with IP addresses from very similar domains. Thanks, Histopher Critchens (talk) 20:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Zionist entity
Thank you for your kind comments. I'm not sure exactly how fix the issue; the words could be put in quotes, I suppose, though they really reflect several sources. Jayjg (talk) 01:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Acco
You're welcome! If you have any questions about crusader Acre I can definitely help. Adam Bishop (talk) 15:45, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy international women's day
And I think I may have been able to solve your query re Kasan -- or at least, help you towards the first step of solving the bigger overall question (where is the place and what happened to the people?). BrainyBabe (talk) 19:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, thank you so much, BrainyB, for the greeting and more! Yes, I'm happy (some days more than others) to be an "international woman" ;-) and to interactively participate in our global enterprise here. As for my Uzbek town name query: the testimony from which it arose is sketchy but interesting in itself if not outright notable. I'll add more details back on the thread for the general edification. -- Deborahjay (talk) 05:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I look forward to reading more of your detective work, on that thread or elsewhere. BrainyBabe (talk) 15:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Language ref desk
Please don't edit other people's comments substantively to add something which you think they intended, but which may not be what they actually had in mind. Especially since I was thinking of Manual of Style (Arabic), and not the page you linked. AnonMoos (talk) 21:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied at User:AnonMoos' Talk page -- Deborahjay (talk) 21:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Hadamar Clinic
Hi, was wondering if you could perhaps lend some assistance here?

Another editor has done an unannounced, wholesale removal of text from the Article Hadamar Clinic. In my opinion this was unwarranted.

However, could we perhaps move towards bringing sourcing more in line with WP custom (in-line references for every fact) or is there already a ruling somewhere that content transcluded from the Holocaust Museum is thereby adequately referenced?--Goodmorningworld (talk) 16:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Transliteration
Hi Deborahjay! There is a guideline for this stuff, called WP:HE, and it took over 3 years to formulate it. If you don't agree with certain parts of the guideline, feel free to comment on the talk page, but please note that every aspect imaginable was discussed, usually more than once. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 23:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Shalom
Your comments at Talk:2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict did not go unnoticed. Editors with your perspective are necessary for balance, so stick around. :D Wikifan12345 (talk) 04:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you, Deborahjay, for your comments! Kindest wishes, --Dr Dima (talk) 21:42, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Wicked sons
I have responded here. // BL \\ (talk) 19:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Education in Israel
Hi Deborah! Actually I have no in-depth knowledge of the topic, and only follow the news like most people. Your assertion does seem fair, but I have no sources. I will look around and see what I can find. By the way, I thought we were going to work on the IDF article? ;) —Ynhockey (Talk) 12:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Historical Note
10-15 minutes before I saw your recommendation, I was reading an early ZNH article written when she was a reporter. Another case of deja view. Phil_burnstein (talk) 11:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wheeee! :-) Thanks for reporting on the serendipity, that's especially striking in light of the fact that it took me over a day to post my response after I'd first thought of it. The Zora Neale Hurston page could use some editing, such as taking that useful content about the authenticity and validity of her writing in African-American dialect out from under the Public obscurity heading, perhaps even to be under Controversy? Anyway, I'm glad I remembered it and hope it will do the OP some good. ZNH would be a terrific subject to teach; perhaps she'll enjoy a resurgence of interest under the present U.S. administration? -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Mendel Grossman
Hi, this name really should be Grossman, with double s. I speak pretty decent German and Yiddish (and this is a German name). I've never heard of anyone called 'Grosman' with one s. What language would that be? Chinese? ;) This name is written with double s. Anyone who writes it differently is wrong, and that's it (sounds arrogant, but it is the truth). Also, just a small remark: maybe the time has come to archive some of your talk page, it's very long. --Piz d&#39;Es-Cha (talk) 13:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Subsequent: I saw that you are preparing article about him when I read your userpage (it's linked on the bottom of your userpage). Also, my apologies for being a bit vague: I absolutely didn't intend to insult you, I was merely saying that "Grosman" is a non-existent, faultive, incorrect spelling. Anyone who wrotes "Grosman" simply doesn't know proper German/Yiddish. It would be like writing "Boush" instead of "Bush", or writing "Tel Afif" instead of "Tel Aviv" - it's simply wrong. Not a matter of preference or discussion, just a matter of simply knowing the German language. I checked the spellings with Google, showing that about 219,000 results for Grosman and 6,830,000 for Grossman, leading me to suspect that many German immigrants to the US changed the spelling of their surname from Grossman to Grosman, since they - probably - assumed that this would be easier and more 'logical' in an English-speaking country, where there is no difference between s and ss. A contributing factor to this assumption is the fact that all of the Grosman results seem to be about Jews, where the name was probably incorrectly transliterated from Yiddish at some point. It is perhaps somewhat similar to the way Israelis transliterate foreign names from Hebrew letters to English, leading to names such as the former American Secretary of Defense Donald Romspeld (saw it myself). --Piz d&#39;Es-Cha (talk) 14:38, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for expanding upon your point. With all due respect, unless you're a more qualified linguist than I and can substantiate your remarks, I find these arguments you present familiar but not conclusive, being more descriptive than prescriptive–nor authentic for the case at hand. If MG's forebears weren't resident in Germany and native speakers of the German language at the time they acquired that surname, there's all the more reason to consider it as the Yiddish of Polish Jews, transcribed (i.e. romanized) according to, say, YIVO's practice or according to Polish orthography. (If you want to see a real mess I've yet to sort out, consider Yitzhak Zuckerman, stuck with the Polish spelling because the editors of the Encyclopedia Judaica were too rigid and/or insensitive to realize how inappropriate it is to represent him that way rather than the romanized Yiddish or Hebrew as does the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust English edition.) With MG, his signature is pretty solid evidence. I think the only adequate treatment will be in a Name section on his future page. (If you'd like to create his page, I'd be only too pleased as I'm too burdened with other obligations to do so myself in the foreseeable future.) My problem, which I addressed on your Talk page: how I can fulfill my responsibilities in information storage and retrieval and still be an archivist faithful to the source (whom I revere)?. I have recourse to Yiddish academics who can help resolve the spelling issue. This will take some time, and I invite you to keep in touch! -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:06, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely not more qualified than you are, quite the opposite. The example you bring of Yitzchak Zuckerman is indeed quite sad, an example of - in my opinion - excessive academic rigidity. Icchak? This is truly horrible. I think the article should in fact be changed to Yitz(c)hak Zuckerman; I am quite sure that there are plenty of sources using this name. Regarding Gros(s)man, I will leave it up to you; I simply noticed the draft on your user page and thought I should note it. --Piz d&#39;Es-Cha (talk) 19:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Flamarande
I think that you overlooked the "In the bitter end Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will do nothing besides some inflammatory statements and backing some terrorist organizations". Comparing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with Adolf Hitler is misleading. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for all sins isn't Adolf Hitler, Iran isn't Germany, Israel isn't the same as 'the Jews in Europe before the WWII', and 2009 isn't 1939. Following Godwin's law you lost already. The anonymous user is interested in the subject (I will not speculate upon his reason) and I merely gave him an honest answer. Furthermore I may be mistaken in many things but I'm not "awfully naive" in the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. Flamarande (talk) 17:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Nuclear weapons in the wrong hands are certainly a danger and in principle I agree that in safeties interest Iran shouldn't have them at all but trying to scare everybody through claims that "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is going to bomb Israel with nuclear weapons" I leave for politicians like Benjamin Netanyahu who in the same fashion as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is largely interested in gaining votes and elections by narrowing the mind of the mob = voters and not interested at all in solving the true problems through negotiation. Cheers. Flamarande (talk) 17:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I did not "overlook" that conclusion/assertion of yours, but find it ("nothing besides...") foolish, superficial, insensitive, and downright offensive. How about if you relate to "backing some terrorist organizations" in light of what I wrote about the Iranian arms supply to Hezbollah that has already been used against us here in the Western Galilee. I termed your analysis "naive" because the nuclear issue wasn't the point, but the Iranian capability of hostile acts against Israel. Further, I would content this "Godwin's law" labeling has mainly to do with forum discussions and is fundamentally pointless when applied as a gag for a professional Holocaust archivist (and Israeli Jew who's repeatedly been under terrorist bombardment). You'll note I wrote my remark to you on your User page and not on the Ref Desk thread; you wrote speculatively there and I deplore that sort of opinionating on the Reference Desks. I hope I've explained myself, and this is ending here. -- Deborahjay (talk) 18:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Prudnik
Anwered. Tomasz W. Kozłowski (talk) 11:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

A to-do request
Hey Deboray, I am afraid your request would need to wait for a while, as I am currently translating this text into Polish. I'm almost finished, so it shouldn't take too long; I'll try to help you in a two hours' time or so. Best, Tomasz W. Kozłowski (talk) 16:29, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've just checked the list: all towns are located in the Lower Silesian Voivodeship. I haven't, however, fully understand your message: is there anything more you want me to do? Tomasz W. Kozłowski (talk) 19:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That was the primary concern, and now as the list grows, we'll see if and when it needs further formatting. So far, so good! I'm pleased to be of help to the WikiTeam Poland for all the help I've gotten over these past years. -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Song on Israeli radio, mid-2000s
Deborahjay, the last time I stayed in your neighborhood (four and a half years ago), they kept playing this song on the radio and I keep hearing part of it in my head to this day: the beginning of the bridge, which goes "akhshav, hu yosheved" (now, he knows). Medium-tempo ballad by a singer songwriter with a raspy voice, a bit like Arkady Duchin (?). Can you help me trace it?--Goodmorningworld (talk) 22:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

the rationale for cross-posting the tree structure query
I'm not interested in the use of tree structures in mathematics or programming.

Tree structures can be used in any subject, and I'm interested in the answers from those points of view.

It's better the various sections don't see each others' answers, as I'm looking for unbiased responses.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 23:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

tree structure query
I've restructured the question for you at Reference desk/Humanities

The Transhumanist 02:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Bayonet
Glad to help! Commander Zulu (talk) 12:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kongeluns
Since posting my response, I'd never been on the RD/H, so I'd not seen your last comment :-) Thanks for leaving a note on my page; I wouldn't have thought it a negative comment, but it's definitely kindly to led me know that it wasn't.  Nyttend (talk) 11:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, do you mean that you often post work-related questions on the RD/H? I found that really useful last year, too; one of my questions (about this dish) inadvertently even led to the improvement of this Dutch article.  I definitely appreciate the idea of the reference desk!  Nyttend (talk) 11:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Hebrew memorial
Thanks for your suggestions and kind thoughts. Reply on my talk page --ColinFine (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Request for help
Hi Deborah, I don't know if you are in a position to help, but I thought I'd ask. I wondered if you might have access to the sources to start an article, even a stub, on Jacob Koussevitzky (1903-1959), one of four musical brothers, possibly related to Sergei Koussevitzky. There is already a request for a bio. The basic online bios I have found say he was born in Russian Poland and died in New York, but all I know is that he was active in what is claimed to have been one of the leading synagogues of London in the 1930s, Dalston Synagogue in Poets Road in Newington Green. (I'd really love to see an article on that synogogue and its congregation!) Newington Green Unitarian Church fostered good relations with the Jewish community, which is how I got interested. Please put this under the nose of anyone who might be able to help. Thanks! BrainyBabe (talk) 08:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

R. W. Southern
I think R. W. Southern would be the best name. There are 41 books under that name at my university library, and even the popular bookstore has him listed as R. W. Adam Bishop (talk) 11:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Richard Southern (theatre designer)
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Donald Bradman
Hi Deborah.

I'd love it if you could at least help with a teeny weeny stub in response to my plaintive cry at ! Thanks --Dweller (talk) 11:12, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Hebrew-To-English Translation Assistance
Hello Deborahjay, I'm writing because you're listed as a Hebrew-English translator, and I need a quick reference check. I'm cleaning up the references on Golan Heights Law and this one is giving me some trouble. I can not read Hebrew but as far as I can tell, this link is broken... (or is it?) It's supposed to verify the fact that the Golan Law "Passed in the Knesset with a majority of 63 in favour, 21 against." Can you tell me whether this is correct? If the link really is dead, I'm going to remove it. (It appears to point to an error-message page). Thanks, Nimur (talk) 20:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right to delete that fifth reference and link. It leads to a Golan Heights promotional page in Hebrew whose English hasn't been created and as you discovered, calls out to an error-message page. The fourth reference, from the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, is a solid source and in English so I can't imagine the need for further corroboration. I tried but failed to perform the fix myself, so I'll take a look at your syntax in Compare Versions; perhaps I'll learn something! Glad to help -- Deborahjay (talk) 21:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - yeah, I added the English links and I'm going to remove the broken Hebrew links... I appreciate your assistance, Nimur (talk) 21:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Zdzisław
I realize it was a serious question; I just wanted to say you made me laugh (in a good way) with your RefDesk posting that you wanted to Romanize this name into Hebrew. --- OtherDave (talk) 12:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops! you got me there {*blush*}. My usual turf is back-romanizing European names from Hebrew-language source texts, but this one landed on my while my boss (who fields the into-Hebrew tasks) is taking a week off. I was deliberating whether to write "transliterate" vs. "transcribe" and slipped back into comfortable jargon. No harm done; glad I (usually so serious) can contribute to the lighter side at times. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 21:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * No need to blush; the meaning seemed clear to me: you wanted to get as close to Zdzisław as you could in Hebrew. Serious isn't a bad thing, but as I recall, G-d managed to laugh when His children bested Him.  (I may be a cradle Catholic, but I learned this story from Hayim Halevy Donin, who taught at the Jesuit-run University of Detroit.) --- OtherDave (talk) 00:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Zdzisław
Hi Deborah, did you see my answer at Reference desk/Language. BTW, it's good to see you back at the language reference desk after your absence of several months! +Angr 16:21, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Zdzisław

 * Note that זדז'יסלב will be pronounced by every Hebrew speaker as: Zjeeslav, while every word pronounced as Zjeeswaf will be transliterated by every Hebrew speaker as: זג'יסוּאף.
 * Remarks
 * Modern Hebrew tends to transliterate foreign names in accordance with phonology rather than with orthography (unless the foreign name has a traditional transliteration, e.g. London, transliterated - since 14th century - as לונדון, which is therefore pronounced: "Lohndohn" by every Hebrew speaker, rather than: "Lunden"). The reason for this is the modern Hebrew speaker's desire to be able to pronounce the foreign word correctly, i.e. in accordance with its original pronunciation. Orthography has never been an interest: it has no formal status, and very few Hebrew speakers are really aware of the ortographical "rules", considered by Hebrew speakers to be unstable and to have been determined by no authoritative body, so considering them can't be useful in any context. Just as no English speaker will transliterate the Hebrew word עליו ("on it") as alayv (i.e. considering the third letter י), but as: "alav" or "a love" (because the letter י is not pronounced). In modern era, what one cares (in transliteration) is phonology, rather than orthography.
 * English j is generally transliterated into modern Hebrew as 'ג rather than as 'דז (although both alternatives are consistent with Hebrew orthography, the second one is considered by modern Hebrew speakers as clumsy and archaic, while Classical Hebrew has no traditional transliteration for english j). Just as Russian ч is generally transliterated into modern English as ch rather than as tsh (although both alternatives are consistent with English orthography).
 * HOOTmag (talk) 12:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Your post on "extermination"
Deborah, I took a look at your post on this topic on the RD, as you asked. Your post is clear and very plausible. I am not really an expert on the Holocaust, so I can't comment on whether Nazi leaders' strategic thinking was as you say, but based on what I do know, it makes sense. (My knowledge of this topic, by the way, comes mainly from having done background research on the topic in order to edit all of Encyclopaedia Britannica's articles on Holocaust-related topics, though I also have a general interest in German history.) Keep up the good work! Marco polo (talk) 17:53, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Herzegovina
Heh, heh - up with which I failed to come. Winston would have been proud of you, Deborah. -- JackofOz (talk) 19:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

"Mishtamtim"
Hello. I added a section on celebrity draft-dodgers to Refusal to serve in the Israeli military, but I have no source for the term "mishtamtim" or its definition, and someone has challenged it. Do you have a source for this or anything to clarify it? Thanks!  Mbinebri  talk &larr; 18:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello, I'm a native Hebrew speaker. "mishtamtim" means: "those who avoid". In Modern Hebrew, it may also mean: "those who avoid serving in the army". HOOTmag (talk) 19:25, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarity, but do you have a source for it and its use that I could use as a reference?   Mbinebri   talk &larr; 19:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've done some editing along the lines you ask and a bit more for clarification, directly into the article and documented on its Talk page (continuing under the previous heading). Hope that helps, and thank you for pitching in on editing. I'll try to get back to this topic before too long and will follow the page. -- Deborahjay (talk) 01:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Work Boots
Did you ever find what your husband was seeking in footwear? Every time I see an ad for steel-toed boots, I think of you. // BL \\ (talk) 02:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Acco Festival of Alternative Israeli Theatre


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 * User:Ani medjool nominated this article (and a number of other Israel-related articles/files) for deletion. He was warned for disruptive editing, after I posted my concerns about his behavior at WP:AN.  In anycase, since they didn't notify you of their nominating it, I figured someone should. Cheers! --Nsaum75 (talk) 10:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. References in reliable sources do not have to be online or in English to be valid, so if you wish to add references from an English-language publication that is not available online or from a Hebrew-language publication, that would be fine. The two that I added came from a Google News archive search: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Acco+Festival+of+Alternative+Israeli+Theatre%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Search+Archives -- Eastmain (talk) 13:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Ani medjool
Hi, not a lot we can do about that edit. A user is allowed to blank their user page or remove content from it. By doing so, it is taken that any warnings so removed have been read and are understood. Mjroots (talk) 09:31, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, there is a channel for reporting disruptive editing - WP:ANI - the Administrator's Noticeboard for Incidents. Sockpuppet investigations are at WP:SPI. Mjroots (talk) 09:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi DeborahJay. I think its unforunate that Ani Medjool thinks its fine to call what was written to him/her in good faith "lies", but I'm not going to pursue it. I don't really have the time for it and unless he/she is making disruptive article edits, I'm not willing to intervene again. Let's hope the message did get through and that was just an angry first reaction.  T i a m u t talk 10:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Question for you
Hi Deborah, I don't know if you have the Language refdesk on your watchlist, but there's a question that you seem particularly well-suited to answer. +Angr 17:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Ani medjool
I've had a further notification of concern over this editor's contributions. Therefore I've raised the issue at ANI. Mjroots (talk) 09:28, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Ghetto Fighters article
Hi Deborahjay,

I don't remember the edits well now, as it was a while ago and I've been unfortunately neglecting wikipedia. That said, I see no reason for your deleting the source I posted, self referential or not. (I admit I may have been mistaken in thinking friendsof... was a secondary source). At any rate, I appreciate your work on the article of course. Thanks, The  Fire  Tones  17:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Photograph of Rabbi Yosef Zemelman of Przedecz Poland
Thank you for your message. As suggested by you, I have written to Professor Esther Farbstein to see if she can give me any information regarding a photograph of this Rabbi. 89.139.61.173 (talk) 11:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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Hebrew words for "decay"
Thank you for your message! Hebrew is not my mother language either, but I am fluent in it. The word "rikavon" means decay in the figurative sense as well, to describe moral decay; you are quite right about that. What I meant by saying that there are different Hebrew words for different meanings of "decay" is the following. (1) The word "decay" in physics can mean one of the two things: (a) a decay of a particle, such as beta-decay of an atomic nucleus for example -- that would be "hitparkut" in Hebrew; or (b) a decay of a function to zero -- that would be "de'ikha" in Hebrew. (2) There are words for "decay" in high Hebrew, such as "mikmuk" or "beli", which (at least in my experience) are not used in spoken language at all. "Mikmuk", I think, is the same as "rikavon" more or less, and it probably shares the (doubled) root with "nemek" - gangrene. "Beli", I think, means decay by withering and/or erosion, and it shares the root with "balui" - spent, unusable due to excessive wear. I am not entirely sure about those two words, though, as they are not used in speech. I hope this helps in any way. Kindest wishes to you! With best regards, --Dr Dima (talk) 23:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Chełm
The Polish Wikipedia also has a list of population starting with 1939 for Chełm:. Regarding the city vs town thing, I am not sure, Polish wikipedia uses "miasto" which can mean both. Maybe the best thing is to ask the question on WP Poland here:, hopefully somebody can give a more definite answer :) Dr. Loosmark  12:16, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Now I'm confused: the page you linked here gives "1939 - 28 300" while I don't see where in the Polish Wikipedia a 1939 figure of 35,570 appears as you noted on the Talk page query I posted earlier. In any event, a population of mid-five figures would probably best be termed a "town" in English, with the designation of "city" reserved for larger population centers. -- Thanks again, Deborahjay (talk) 15:10, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Gad Navon gone?
Deborahjay, I notice on your user page that you created a page for Gad Navon, but it seems to have vanished. Was this on purpose?
 * My bad... this was one of several pages on Chief Military Rabbis I'd agreed (upon having been approached by a Project) to create by translating from the Hebrew Wikipedia. I'd put them as red links on my page as a reminder, but after Mordechai Peron I dropped the ball. I've removed them... and really should do some Wiki-housekeeping to document what's been left undone. Thanks for the pickup. -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:05, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and ! תודה רבה על העות על דף של חלם  Ð ’ n  talk 11:40, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's just the start of what I can and intend to add! -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:05, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Small font
I notice some possible misunderstanding with respect to your reference to a Dr. Laura list. I use IE7 and small font doesn't show as small on the page. I'd have to be reading the edit window to know it had been used. It may be that some of the failure to recognize an aside is because your physical indicators don't show to all readers. On the other hand, there could be editors who take everything far too seriously. :-) (Nice to see you on the Ref Desk from time to time. Your responses are always worth reading.) Bielle (talk) 21:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello

 * Notice that according to Kpalion's recent translation, the Hebrew sentence should be: הוא לא השיב לאף אחת מהתזכורות שלנו, or rather: "הוא לא הגיב על אף אחת מהתזכורות שלנו". HOOTmag (talk) 21:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Dunning
I think that the verb dun and the participial form dunning are falling out of use in the United States. There are certainly a lot of dunning letters going out in the current recession, but I don't think that most people receiving them would understand this word. I think that most would describe them as debt-collection letters (or phone calls or e-mails). The word dun is not part of my active vocabulary because I never hear it used and wouldn't expect anyone to understand it. It is part of my passive vocabulary because I occasionally see it in writing (perhaps only in writing authored by speakers of other national varieties of English). I have a vague recollection that my grandmother may have used the word, and I learned it because I have a large vocabulary for whatever reason. However, I would shy away from using the word, at least in writing intended for U.S. readers, except perhaps for readers over 50 or 60 years of age with Ivy League educations. Marco polo (talk) 19:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Serbo-Croatian
I'm glad I was able to help, thanks for the really nice message! :) Rimush (talk) 12:27, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ditto! And it's nice to see I'm not the only one who thinks of the U.S. as "the Old Country". +Angr 13:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: My bad
Your apostrophe indicates primary stress, but that wasn't the problem. The problem is that the Italian Wiktionary has the stress mark in the same position (except it's secondary, not primary), which would mean stress on the second syllable. They were the ones who threw me off, not you :P Rimush (talk) 13:27, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

David Beigelman
Would you or you happen to have any reliable information regarding David Beigelman's dates of birth and death? The information I found online is contradictory (see article's talk page). Any other information on his biography or body of work would be tremendously appreciated too, of course. (For at least two more weeks, I will be far far away from any library that might have any relevant information whatsoever). ---Sluzzelin talk  10:02, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your prompt reaction! (Yes, I did intuit some of the topics his biography touches on. The monstrous one was obviously obvious and is what brought me here, but it appears we also share a passion for the same music; I remember connecting your edits with klezmer a long time ago. Musical associations stick in my mind and never go away). Anyway, I will keep watching, and thanks again! ---Sluzzelin talk  13:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Sloppy reading
Apologies. I only now realized that my post here basically repeated what you had already written (and this, after having had your English translation go unnoticed by several readers :) It is strange how often I catch myself misreading what others have written, while, at the same time, it annoys me when others do it with my posts. I will try to read more slowly. ---Sluzzelin talk  06:38, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ''(replied at User:Sluzzelin's Talk page) 15:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian posts
Hi

I am hoping you are not going to go through the whole of the Ukrainian articles and post those same questions as my cut and paste fingers will explode :¬)

The answer will probably be the same as I posted on the original Puscha-Vodytsia talk page.

Pronunciation is not really an issue that can be discussed by me as I do not speak much Ukrainian. There are other editors who can discuss this with you if you so wish. Romanization

The big problem has always been, as I said in the other reply, the reliance on American translations using Russian and so many such as Kyiv and Stryi end up as Kiev and Stry/Stryy/Stryii/Strji

Chaosdruid (talk) 10:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Dizengoff Prize
Hi Deborahjay,

May I first compliment you on creating the article on the Dizengoff Prize, including the list of recipients. I believe it will be very useful.

I also have a query regarding the award to one of the recipients, Shimshon Holzman, which I have posted on his discussion page. Perhaps you may be able to assist. Thanks. Davshul (talk) 16:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Uncapping wisdom
After sharing my 1.038 cents' worth here, it occurred to me that you might know the name of the hat(s) in question, or know where someone would look. You'd be surprised how little of this I learned at St. Brigid's. --- OtherDave (talk) 17:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the head's up — the wisdom's yours, as I'd already passed up that query as being Dealt With By Others and {blush} a knee-jerk antipathy to the trappings of orthodoxy, though I just luvvvvv these guys' trappings. More to the point, upon dutifully reading I found that (a) I had what to add and (b) I actually knew it's a toque. So you did well; everybody's a winner (especially me, who's out with pneumonia and pretty much off WP for days and days!) -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 15:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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Good day. Did you find a solution for your question ? I have the same problem. --Movses (talk) 22:39, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

RE: Dalia R-P and the present Labor party in Israel
thanks, and fascinating. Wouldnt it be ironic if hes prophetising his own future come election time...the right dont like him for his past, and the left despise him for his movement. Hes likely to join the ranks of all those he "kicked out" (including himself). So who does the left vote for next time with a divided labor? probs the best change to unite a party with the left and the arabs, after all the right is consolidating.

Although, another question has there even been a full government in israel? (ie- not a coalition)Lihaas (talk) 17:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

/* Cascella */ /kaʃe'lla/
Not a problem, Deborahjay. I'd keep watching that thread, though, as someone is bound to come along and modify the vowels. As they stand now, though, I am pretty sure they are representative of the name in standard Italian. You know what IPA is like - we have letters which broadly represent a sound, and are good enough for general purposes, and then letters which represent a really specific sound that might only occur once in one language.... KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 11:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In response to your comment: true, but the reason the vowels in this case are important is because of the 'e' in Italian. Normally, the 'e' sound in Italian is quite closed (transliterated in IPA as /e/), like the two-dot horizontal vowel 'e' of Hebrew (sometimes transliterated 'ei' or 'ay'). However, in this case, the 'e' comes before two consonants (a double 'l'), and is more like English 'e' in 'pet' (in IPA as /ɛ/) - this can more closely be represented by the three-dot vowel 'e' in Hebrew, I believe? -- KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 12:28, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd have to say you've distinguished properly between the Hebrew vowels tsere and segol, though characteristically the matter hadn't entered my mind! Alas, there is no use in our data base program — and indeed the vast and overwhelming majority of texts in Modern Hebrew – of the Hebrew vowels other than those represented (and that, only an indication) by the letters vav and yod. We do, as with many academic texts, provide the romanized (in this case, the source) spelling, and rely on readers to acquire their own understanding of the relationship between that language's orthography and its pronunciation. I may be visiting the Hebrew Wikipedia's version of the Language Ref Desk before long, as discussion with my fellow translators is usually dilatory and beyond our respective resources (time, ego, etc. ;-)to conduct effectively. -- Deborahjay (talk) 05:59, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Foreign languages assistance
Hi! I noticed you are listed at Translators available. Could you please take a look at a post at Talk:Battle of Vukovar and advise whether you might be able to help in terms of a Hebrew translation of summary of the article lead? Thanks.--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Otium
This is my latest article. Feel free to make any improvements. --Doug Coldwell talk 18:59, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Expanded article. Any ideas for a DYK hook?--Doug Coldwell talk 11:31, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

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Polish topics
I would recommend posting questions/invitations for comment at WT:POLAND. Our project is pretty active, and a question there can attract more than just me. And the more, the merrier :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 16:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

One good turn...
Please come and show up my lack of skills. --Dweller (talk) 18:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Re: Some success...
Glad to have been some use. More luck than good judgement really - I was searching "faux Hebrew", and decided to try a Google Image search. I saw one that said "Juden" and Bob's your uncle. I used to dabble a bit with calligraphy so can understand something of the subject. More good luck with the rest of your research. Alansplodge (talk) 20:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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No worries. Sometimes the most ignorant question leads you along a fascinating path. In this case, I have added a small sub-section to the Top hat article about wearing them in the synagogue. Perhaps you could cast your eye over it and make sure that I haven't made any errors. Alansplodge (talk) 11:09, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Ivar T. Holth
Thanks for the kind words! I liked how that set of answers all built on the others; it was a good piece of collaboration. 184.147.123.169 (talk) 15:14, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Mtoto
At the time he was racing it was fairly well-known that his name meant "boy" or "child" in Swahili. I really should find some sources and add it to the article. Thanks for the link.  Tigerboy1966  20:09, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Response
Hello Deborah,

I have responded to you here--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Contacting_the_Israeli_Government. Please check it out and respond back to me whenever you'll have a moment. Thank you very much. Futurist110 (talk) 04:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Please don't forget to respond to me whenever you are able to, Deborah. Have a good day and take care. Futurist110 (talk) 08:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2012_December_30
I do not believe the OP asked whether pictures of the tattooing process, "taken during the operation of Nazi camps", are available. I imagine he's got curious after seeing pictures of Wiesel's left forearm without a tattoo, that are circulating through the Internet. I don't know whether those pictures are photoshopped or whether it has been a usual practice to have the tattoo removed. If any of both cases are true, maybe there are pictures of his forearm with a tattoo. Or, do you think, on the other hand, that there is a chance that Wiesel was not interned at a concentration camp? Or he was interned and didn't get a tattoo? OsmanRF34 (talk) 23:01, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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Jean-Marie Lustiger
Hi Deborahjay, thanks! And no problem - I forgot that Jean-Marie couldn't have been his original name :) Adam Bishop (talk) 11:28, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Finnish vs Estonian
I saw my username mentioned in a discussion between Finnish and Estonian and read the discussion. I can comment on this:
 * Finnish has C, F, Q, W, X, Y, Z, Å, which Estonian does not (except in foreign words and/or names).
 * Estonian has Õ and Ü which Finnish does not.

Finnish does not "have" C, F, Q, W, X, Z, Å. They are only used in foreign words and/or names, just like in Estonian. Many Finns even have trouble with these letters.

The Finnish Y and the Estonian Ü are the same letter and used in the same way. They just are represented with different glyphs. This letter occurs frequently in both native Finnish and native Estonian words, although a little less often than its back-vowel counterpart, U (the same in Finnish and Estonian).

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Hey Deborah
I replied to you at Reference desk: Humanities. btw, I'm Kinda new at English wiki and haven't learned about all the management pages and forums here. it often seems slightly different than at Hebrew-Wiki. because you know it better than me, I'll inform you that a guide to Hebrew-Wiki users about the core management pages and forums of English-Wiki would be a great enterprise, and would strengthen the bond between them, just if you might want to write such a guide. Ben-Natan (talk) 20:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Intercession of saints
You're very welcome. I was about to launch into a lengthy diatribe, but stayed my hand - almost as easy a way to provoke pointless bickering as comparing British and US spelling! Alansplodge (talk) 19:41, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Nick Turse
My bad about removing those links. In a larger issue, what do you think about Readerfix's massive changes to this article? I think he is overloading it with material that promotes the author. See the Talk page. Chisme (talk) 18:36, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for volunteering to add your support. About style guides for biographical articles, Wikipedia doesn't offer much. You can check it out here. Unfortunately, Wiki has nothing to say about what constitutes useful information in a biographical article, nor does it state that brevity is more often than not a virtue when it comes to looking up information online. Chisme (talk) 18:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the Speedy Express entry. As for the recognition section, I will defer to you on the basis of style. I didn't realize that was the proper format. I made many additions to the page but did my best to cite them with legitimate and verifiable sources. User Readerfix Readerfix (talk) 19:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: Ram Karmi, published works
Hi Deborahjay,

Regarding the transliteration: I was going by WP:HE, and in general ch is common for het but less common for khaf, while kh is common for khaf but not het. A good example to go by are the common transliterations for Israeli cities names, but there are many others.

Regarding the formatting: it just seemed extremely weird to me and inconsistent with how it is generally written on Wikipedia, although maybe there was some recent development in the MoS that changed the guideline. I am not aware of it, but if you know something, please send me a link to the relevant section so I can read about it :)

Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 23:41, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I will appreciate it to see your notes concerning my remarks in the Arab Israeli 1948 war talk page.
Hi

I will appreciate it to see your notes concerning my remarks in the Arab Israeli 1948 war talk page.

I am an Israeli, but try to be objective. I am the only Israeli regular editor in these articles, and the other editors reactions are mostly negative, as expected. It is much better to hear your opinion as well. If you are not too busy, will it be possible for you to comment in the talk page.

thanks Ykantor (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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FYI
Hi. I saw this. I understand your general concern, but I don't think there was anything wrong with the point being made, about which I was entirely sincere. (Redacted). For what I am sure you will find understandable reasons, I am not about to participate in the talk page discussion where you've opened up a forum for BB to attack my politics, and TRM to continue his unending stalking behavior. I wish you had asked me about this on my talk page, rather than starting a discussion about me without notice. Maybe you'll consider closing that discussion, in light of my answer here and the irrelevant comments on the talk page? Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 18:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course, it's tragic what happened to (Redacted), we've all had many tragedies in our lives, but conflating that with edits on Wikipedia is absurd. There's no stalking, none at all, particularly considering that Medeis engages in sneaky personal attacks (just as she has here), there's just a continued concern with the quality of edits made by certain editors who treat Wikipedia as an alternative to Facebook or Twitter.  The Ref Desks have truly become a chat room and it seems innocent postings and concerns over quality of the "ref desks" have to contend with emotional responses that frankly have no place here.  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:25, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * If you don't object, Deborah, I am going to close that thread as a misunderstanding. I hope you can understand why I wouldn't want this continued as an open discussion. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 19:55, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have hatted the discussion here. μηδείς (talk) 18:22, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

AN/I
Here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.130.118.66 (talk) 02:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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FYI (and possibly up your alley)
I happened upon this odd discussion, and immediately thought of you. ---Sluzzelin talk  02:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Reference desk discussion format
I don't know exactly where the "@Username" convention originated, but I spent over 20 years participating in Internet discussions before I was ever on a system where "@Username" was normative, and I only use it where it is normative.

As for indentation, your version complies more with the letter of Wikipedia conventions, but sometimes I like to drop all indentation to emphasize that I'm going back to the original poster's question, without reference to the intervening comments. (I'm not the only one who sometimes does this.)

P.S. It's probably time to archive your user talk page... AnonMoos (talk) 12:08, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Yitzhak Sadeh Prize
Dear Deborah,

in the German wikipedia, someone has requested the deletion of the article on de:Yitzhak-Sadeh-Preis. I have tried to avert this, but I am not sure whether I will succeed. Since you seem to have set your mind on writing the Hebrew article, maybe you could help me: It has been argued in the discussion that there is no reference to an independent source which deals with the prize itself as subject matter — rather than with the individual laureates. Do you happen to know one which I could add to the article? Thanks -- Framhein (talk) 08:56, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much, Framhein, for approaching me on this matter. It appears that the AfD discussion for de:Yitzhak-Sadeh-Preis is unlikely to result in deletion, and anyway has a few more days (May 9 + 7) to provide support for keep. I will take this up at tomorrow's meeting of the WP Western Galilee Task Force, whose participating editors include librarians and instructors of Israeli literature. A page in the Hebrew Wikipedia seems redundant considering that the Prize has its Hebrew-language website. However: considering the worldwide interest in the Israeli military and the State in general, I'm all the more interested in expanding the corresponding Wikipedia pages in the English, German, and other languages to which the laureates' works have been translated. I'll be in touch with you as this develops, and thank you again for helping me clarify the direction I can take to improve the topic. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 21:51, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I can report with a sigh of relief that earlier tody the AfD has been denied. Best regards -- Framhein (talk) 12:51, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Reply to Pink Money question.
Better copied and pasted here, in light of what you said there. Should be said somewhere.


 * "Cash cow" and "boobs" are hardly vulgar. One's G-rated and one's PG. "Pissing off" is PG-13. I'm not apologizing for that. The edit summary, sure, but who really reads those? I don't know what you mean by "no quotes provided".


 * If I've upset anybody by noting that corporations exploit people's desire to "do the right thing", and breast cancer makes infinitely more money because it's about pink breasts, sorry, but people are greedy and sex does sell. If the question was about breast cancer, yeah, this would be tasteless. But it's about "pink money".


 * I've lost fourteen friends/relatives to various cancers, which all sucked. That cancer is terrible goes without saying. But does that mean we can't ever discuss other aspects of it without considering who might be reminded of that? I've also answered questions about war today. And death. And taxes. Don't those suck? InedibleHulk (talk) 07:36, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Anyway, sorry again, personally, for the last thing. But I can't walk too lightly on eggshells. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:42, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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When and where Jews first became a dominant or majority group in the 20th century
Hi Deborah. I'm not sure whether you'd prefer me to respond on my own talk page or here. I'm not even 100% sure I understand your issue, but I think you are disputing my claim that Jews first became a dominant group in a society modern times in Palestine in the early 20th century. I was thinking that Jewish society in Palestine was already rather distinct from Arab society in Palestine (as it is today) by the late 1920s or so, and that Jews were really the dominant majority in enclaves such as West Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, and scattered kibbutzim. Certainly, this society did not constitute an autonomous state, and Jews in Palestine were unquestionably subject to British control. But I wasn't arguing that Jews had a state before 1948, just that they began to emerge as a dominant group in parts of Palestine a couple decades earlier. Whether those parts of Palestine constituted a distinct society before the founding of Israel, I guess, is the question. The armed stance of the Haganah after the 1929 Arab riots, still in the early 20th century, suggests a distinct society and even a proto-state. Marco polo (talk) 14:40, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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