User talk:Deepak D'Souza/Archive 5

History Section of tulu language page vandalised by UserUser:C21K
In an ancient greek text titled the Charition mime(200 B.C.) which contains a play about greek sailors and their adventures in coastal parts of what is present day Indian state of karnataka,the Indian characters are seen speaking a language diffrent from greek.many scholars tried to identify the language.Noted German Indologist Dr. E.Hultzsch claimed that it was some ancient dravidian language that was spoken in those times.Studies conducted by Indian linguist like P.S.Rai identified the language as Tulu.This finding was also affirmed by Central Institute of Indian Languages as also Edith Hall,A research professor at University of London. Also the Halmidi inscriptions makes mentions of the Tuluve people and their culture .There is also a Tamil poem written during the Sangam age that makes mention of the tulu land and its people .It also widely beleived that the Satyaputra kingdom mentioned in Ashokan edicts as one of the four kingdoms out of his rule is the Alva Kheda/Tulu Nadu region. Attagirl (talk) 14:40, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The section is as follows

Deleting Comments
Dear Deepak thanks for your comments on the deletion page.Its not only the matter of producing Ph.D but ones contributions in various areas. My Ph.D scholars have found employment in the USA based upon the quality of the research done by them. Its easy for you to comment without knowing facts. My books are marketed internationally and have been published by top publishers of India. I have works in diverse areas from scale construction to research and writing. Maybe I do not deserve a page on wikipedia today but tomorrow I will surely be there with the strength of my work. Thanks for motivating me to achieve this goal one day. Dr. Amit Abraham. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.160.139 (talk) 12:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Mr Deepak you are a manglorean who are you to write the history of Goa ? Dont you call us Goud saraswati brahmins thats a pagan mentality stop your nonsence u can do whatever u want with the mangloreans stop distoring history of Goan People —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franco 007 (talk • contribs) 10:33, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

India page
Hi deepak thanks for your guidence as i am little new on Wiki. I would like to know from you that what wrong you had founded in my editing on this page. I had just tried to put some more names of freedom fighters who really worked for the freedom of India. --Sandeepsp4u (talk) 06:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

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I think that the discussion between us has turned into an argument, i think i misinterpreted what you were trying to say and went a bit over the board. I hope you don’t have any hard feelings. Lets not assume any bad faith. Lets co-operate to improve Wikipedia articles and try & make Wikipedia a friendly environment. Kesangh (talk) 07:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Mass Cremations in India
Hello. You recently submitted my article on Mass cremations in India for speedy deletion and was wondering if you would mind clarifying your reasons for the deletion, especially regarding the number of Google hits the article has received. Could you also be more specific about what you are actually disputing about the article? I have reviewed the Wikipedia guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article as well as the criteria for a speedy deletion and do not think that this article meets the criteria, or falls outside of the appropriate article guidelines. Additionally, if you look at the history for the page, another uses has also commented that this article does not meet the speedy deletion criteria. Any information on why you think this article needs to be deleted or perhaps edited would be very helpful. Thank you Franchesca786 (talk) 20:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Kakadeo
Hi deepak,my motive was not adversting rather to make people know about kanpur and kakadeo and coachings here.What can be done to improve this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urprakhar (talk • contribs) 07:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Good, Write about the locality. A brief history about it . Why is this locality named Kakadeo. Anything that this locality is famous for. Any famous people living in or born in this locality? Any tourist locations? This is the kind of information that people look for in an encyclopedia article. Not for coaching classes . Take a look at this article Ameerpet. Ameerpet is the hub of private education in Hyderabad. Yet it does not look like an advertisement. Try to mould your article on the same. Go through the links in the welcome message. Good Luck! --Deepak D'Souza 09:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

WP Bangalore Meetup
Following the Mailing list discussion that we had, here's a call for an informal meetup of Bangalore Wikipedians soon. Please see Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore3 --  Tinu  Cherian  - 09:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Dasavathaaram
Excuse me, Ms. Deepak D'Souza (दीपक डी’सोज़ा / ದೀಪಕ್ ಡೀ’ಸೊಜಾ). Actually, it was my first DYK. I really don't understand the rules. Furthermore, the guy directed 36 films. That is incredible. Just thought that could be nice. Don't take it too hard. BTW, the ten roles by Kamal Haasan is also good. Actually, I was expecting someone to send me message. But, it was you. When I saw your username, that reminds me Genelia D'Souza. You know ....... D'Souza. Great to meet you, World Cinema Writer (talk • contributions) 13:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah, thanks Lucy Liu. That helps me a lot. But, I tell you, I'm never going to nominate anything for DYK again. BTW, you're hindi ? World Cinema Writer (talk • contributions) 05:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

about Konkani alphabet
Such a alphabet no one uses in Goa,so its of no use following scholar's work when those scholors do not know Konkani and its education system at all,may be u can include a standard alphabet taught in schools,which most of the people follow and not the IPA thing,which just does work of standardization without knowing the reality,people in Goa will not understand if we write ज़ instead of ज ,symbols like ॉ ,ॅ are used only to write English or Portuguese words in Konkani,eg.बॅंक ऑफ इंडिया, but when we write Konkani words like soro(liquor),fov(poha),we do not write it as सॉरॉ and फॉव but we write it as सोरो and फोंव,similarly ऋ is used to write Sanskrit words like ऋचा,but prakrit konkani words like reen(loan) is written रीण as and not ऋण.


 * I am sorry but your stand that "scholars do not know Konkani" makes no sense. How can a person be called a scholar if he has no knowledge of the subject? The IPA chart that I constrcuted was based on "A description of Konkani" by Fr. Matthew Almeida of the Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, a native Konkani speaker himself with a PhD in linguistics from Michigan Univ. It is a well researched book based on the principles of linguistics. The Extended Devanagari charachetrs in the alphabet chart are for reference only. By no means does the chart suggest that they are a standerdized alphabet set. That is why there are two columns for Devanagiri characthers in the table. ऋ may be a part of the devangari alphabet but the syllable itself is not used in Konkani. Hope that helps. --Deepak D'Souza 08:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I do not want to talk more,good luck!

Re: Goa Opinion Poll
Hi, Deepak, firstly sorry for the late response. I would love to help you with with the Goa Opinion Poll article, but unfortunately I will be on a wikibreak from 15th June 2009 and may edit for a short while in October 2009. I will only be free in April 2010. Anyway you have done a good work on the Goa Opinion Poll article. Bye, have a good time.--Sanfy talk 13:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Your inputs needed....
... at User talk:Tinucherian .. Thanks --  Tinu  Cherian  - 18:07, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

thank you
thank u deepak for ur concern... ill go through the link and do the necessary...

hello deepak.. can u please help me regarding how to add a image in my wikipedia article--Sonar shet (talk) 17:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kambyat ishk vs Kambakkht Ishq
Thanks for catching that. I suspected that there was an article for that film but I couldn't figure out what it would be. Do you think that "Kambyat ishk" would be a reasonable redirect term? ... disco spinster   talk  12:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, someone's already redirected it. ...  disco spinster   talk  15:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. I did consider redirection first, but it would not be appropriate in this case since the article name is totally incorrect and there are no articles linking to it. For instance Kambaqht Ishq would be a good redirect as it is the correct Urdu-to-Roman translation of the film name. Anway, no problems. --Deepak D'Souza 05:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hyderabad, India
Hello, you have agreed to merge the tourist list into the Hyderabad article. Everything is fine but you should have at least notified me that I have new messages at the page. Anyhow, if you reply, I will merge them both. We have many things in common, like, you live in Hyderabad and I am a native of it, you like history and it is my favourite too....... -- Sri niv  as  10:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Marathi language
Hello, I see that some days ago you reverted some edits made by 125.22.243.174. They have done more edits (OR & POV pushing really) on this article and I've tried to fix it; as I'm a lowly anon/IP editor I don't have any tools to keep watch/revert easily, could you keep an eye on the article and that IP editor please? I noticed them because they did a lot of sanitizing on Bal Thackeray, along with another IP 202.122.20.254. Thanks! --78.86.25.78 (talk) 05:08, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for informing me. Wow this has to be one of the most massive violations on any page on my watchlist: Apart from OR and POV; also HOAX, NONSENSE and god knows what else. Why don't you create an account? Having an account allows you to create a watchlist. You can add your favourite pages to the watchlist so that you are informed of the latest changes in any pages. Do read more at Why create an account?. Contact me on this page itself if you need any help. :-) --Deepak D'Souza 18:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Goykanadi
Goykanadi is not Kannada script ,its different Kannada script! do some research first!
 * Thank you for your message. Since you have been here for some time, I'd expect that you have some understanding of the ettiquete needed between Wikipedians and trust that you will not arrogantly order people to this or that. Let me assure you that I have read quite a lot of reliable and unreliable sources on Konkani language and posses quite a few authoritve books on Konkani . None of thee mention any Script call Goykanadi. It is the Kannada script, the phonemics may differe but not the script itself. --Deepak D'Souza 03:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi could you please elaborate about tulu chritians
hi,both your citations do not work,is there any tulu christian culture.iam from mangalore and there aren't any tulu chritians or their culture and why did you delete my comments from the talk page.Attagirl (talk) 05:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC) Ok thanks for the reply.and since you are interested in tulu you can contribute on tulu language pageAttagirl (talk) 05:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Help
Hi Deepak i want ur help if you can. I had learned many things by watching ur editing and i am frank to say that. I require ur help regarding what is copyedit called and i require ur help in one of the article named Valsad_District.. Thanks. --Sandeepsp4u (talk) 07:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Deepak for your help. I will see that what i can learn from the help link which you had given. --Sandeepsp4u (talk) 05:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Goykanadi again
Deepak,you don't seem to be from Goa, then how come you are saying Goykanadi is Kannada script?I have seen how Goykanadi looks like....its mixture of Devanagari and Kannada,may be Halekannada. Kannada isn't written below a line with all the matras above the lines,and ukars below the line,Goykanadi is written in that way... you should do some more research!! and don't simply keep deleting stuff others write!
 * Again! Please sign your messages! we have very few Goan editors around it would be good if you take some time to learn how to edit and collaborate with others on wikipedia. Please learn how to talk to other editors: Dont order people around saying "You should do some research". You are pretty new here and you still have a lot to learn, starting with WIkipedia Etiquette.


 * Another thing that you need to know is that it doesnt matter whther you are from Goa or not to edit a Goa related article. At Wikipedia, credentials are irrelevant!. It doesnt matter who you are or where you come from or what degrees you posses because Wikipedia is based on relaible, verifyable sources.


 * I did search on the internet before reverting your edits.


 * The only researcher who seems to use the term is Gajanan Ghantkar. No other major researcher has used this term. And the full title of the book acc to this source is An intorduction to Goan Marathi records in halakannada script. It says Marathi, not Konkani; also "halaKannada" or halekannada means "old Kannada". No other researcher has used the same term. You may go through the refs in the Konkani language article and see if any of them mention Goykanadi. Apparently no one else agrees(except for T. R DeSouza who is the only person who quotes from Ghantkar's book) That is why I had to delete it. Please feel free to continue this discussion on at the Konkani language talk page. --Deepak D'Souza 15:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Marathi or Konkani
Most of the people say its Marathi,very few say its Konkani,but the inscriptions say things like:
 * Ravala Seti baraha(writing of Ravala Seti)
 * Soma Seti Chelo Ravala(Soma Seti's son Ravala)
 * 1) These letters are found in our(My family,Karekar family from Gaunsavado,Mapusa Goa,and this Ravala Seti is our ancestor)and are not in any archives.
 * 2) words like,baraha(writing),chelo(son),putu(son),rayu(king),taru(ship),are mentioned in these letters which are not used at all in Marathi.
 * 3) The script is not Halekannada either.(I myself know to read and write Kannada well)
 * 4) 50% of people in Goa still are biased and say that Konkani is a dialect of Marathi.

Nijgoykar (talk) 02:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

GoG
I know that this user's soapboxing has being going too long, but I think the best way to deal with him is simply to ignore him. He seems to be on wikipedia solely to debate his pet conspiracy theories and not really improve articles (given that he has not even tried to expand any related mainspace content). So each time we reply to his provocations, it only encourages him and perhaps keep him around longer. Lets see if he gets bored if we refuse to fall for his baits. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 13:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Grievance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaunkars of Goa (talk • contribs) 07:46, 2 October 2009 (UTC) --Gaunkars of Goa (talk) 07:48, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Please be nice
"Meatpuppetry is the recruitment of editors as proxies to sway consensus" according to Wikipedia.

You have accused me of this. This is incorrect. I am not recruiting anyone to be my proxy. I am not trying to sway concensus with additional votes. Gaunkers cannot be a proxy because he is indefinitely blocked.

I am merely asking anyone knowledgable about Goa for references and what those references say. You will note that I have not insisted on anything about Goa.

Please be nice to everyone during this time of Diwali. May your home light up with the joy and may this Diwali bring prosperity, peace, happiness and good health to you and your family. Happy Diwali! Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 15:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

user name suggestion
Please consider changing your signature so that one can click directly to your user talk page. Others have this but you do not. It saves time and bandwidth. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Political history of Mysore and Coorg FAC
Since the Mangalore Fort is featured in the FAC, I wonder if you'd like to weigh in at: FAC review Thanks! Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  21:10, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, Thanks for informing me. Unfortuantely, Im not well-acquainted with the FAC review process so I'll skip it for now. --Deepak D'Souza 18:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

hello
I believe more people call it Diwali which is why I changed it. I call it Deepavli. About GoG, if he informs me of some good references (reliable sources) then I will read them and learn. If not, then the matter ends. I have some interest in Goa, which is why there has been a conversation. As far as the India article, I've already said that it merits 0 to 1 sentence, that's all. It's possible it's zero but also maybe one. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 16:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you a WP:Administrator
Calm down: Don't jump to conclusions.
 * Take it easy.
 * It's not the end of the world.
 * You don't know me.
 * I don't know you.
 * At the moment I'm glad I didn't meet you in the streets of Calcutta, or New York City.
 * Would you then engage me in fisticuffs?

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ludvikus (talk • contribs) . Sorry for forgetting to sign. --Ludvikus (talk) 12:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Your revert
Deepak your edit has been reverted because it had the effect of removing referenced material from the article, which is contrary to Wikipedia's policy. In addition SBC's edits had the following flaws which I have cut and pasted from the talk page of akbar article. If you want to contribute please develop consensus on the talk page and do not revert.
 * You are confusing the article by adding factally incorrect information and by adding things in sections which they don't belong to. Please refrain from doing so until you develop a consensus here. Just to cite couple of examples:
 * No logic in removing Maharana Pratap's reaction to marriages of rajput women from the Rajput wives of Akbar section.
 * 30,000 rajputs were not present in the fortress of chittor, instead they were unarmed peasants.


 * I am reverting it to my last save. Please add your suggestions here so other editors can mull over them.
 * More random musing (talk) 16:41, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit Reverts in Maharashtra wiki
Hello Deepak, I have made a few changes in Maharashtra wiki page, adding info about Nagpur. You have reverted it to the earlier version. Don't you know that Nagpur is also a part of Maharashtra and a major city too. Then adding information about that city cannot just be called as "Emphasizing"....please do not change it again, I have written everything with references. Thanks.

Álvaro Martínez
I removed the speedy tag that you added to Álvaro Martínez. The version you tagged had been vandalized. I restored the last pre-vandalism version. - Eastmain (talk) 05:14, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will be more careful from now on. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 09:35, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

File:Feroze Gandhi clarification note.GIF
Deepak, since the full page can be read at this link, is it okay if I delete the above screenshot ? If I have your permission I can delete it as "author request", before some patroller marks it as a copyvio and leaves you a templated notice. Regards. Abecedare (talk) 07:05, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure! I wasn't sure of the copyright stuff and just wanted the image for a short period to end the silly debate. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 07:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. Perhaps an argument for fair-use could be made for the extract, but since it is not needed it's best to avoid complications. Anyway, I doubt we'll ever see the end of "silly debates" on wikipedia; there is an endless supply of uninformed editors who'll push for the sword-wielding skeletons theories. Abecedare (talk) 07:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I did notice that bit on your userpage. Liked your sense of humour!--Deepak D'Souza (talk) 06:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Telangana
I undid your change in Telangana regarding SRC report. I think final conclusions of SRC report important for readers and it should be included in the document; without that statement in the article people will never understand the Telangana movement or its historical background. 06:09, 16 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramcrk (talk • contribs)


 * I misunderstood you. I did not realize you were removing the para(s) related Telangana objections to merger. Those statements gives wiki reader an understanding about the oppostion of Telanganites to the merger and why there was a need for Gentleman's agreement. If you agree we can include those para(s) back. Also, we should include that Central govt ignored SRC recemendations. I made appropriate changes. If you disagree, we can discuss.(see Telangana discussion page for comments) Ramcrk (talk) 20:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)