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Regarding Rama's Arrow
Hi, I don't know if u followed my messages on deeptrivia's talkpage; I was also clearly in favour of a second chance which is the reason why I did not file an RfC. My note to deeptrivia was more on lines of informing the past history of the user. Thanks for chipping in on my talkpage. --Gurubrahma 04:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

India's losses in WW2
Hi: I am updating the Wikipedia page on WW2 casualties for India. Currently we have posted the offical 1946 data reported by the UK. Do you know of Indian official sources that may have superceded this data? In the case of of Australia, New Zeland and Canada the current(2005) official totals are different than the 1946 data from London. --Berndd11222 15:18, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Renewed discussion
Hi, It may interest you that the discussion on Indian subcontinent has been renewed at: Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics --Regards. Miljoshi | talk 14:37, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Hinduism
Hi, Deepak. I have seen that you have made usefl contributions to Hinduism related articles, so you may consider joining WikiProject Hinduism. Help is always needed and you are very welcome to join!  Da Gizza  Chat (c) 04:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:91 TU-142M Aircraft.jpg
Hi, please add your source for this photo. Thuresson 21:57, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Done --Deepak|वार्ता 22:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Krishna
Deepak, you uploaded your Krishna image to commons, where it will be speedy deleted. You should upload fair use images to wikipedia. Also, it would be nice to know who painted the image, or at least who owns the copyright, even if it is fair use. regards, dab (&#5839;) 17:41, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Re:Krishna image...
Yeah, your new way's actually better. I just didn't know how to find a better image that wasn't already in the article without uploading, which is complicated. For my future use, how does one do that? elvenscout742 18:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Wishes
Hello, I wish you and your family a prosperous and happy New Year 2006! We shall surely remain actively involved in the Project Wikipedia. --Bhadani 17:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * And, all the best for the examinations. --Bhadani 17:45, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Babur Missile Pic
Submitted, I found out that the original photo was taken by the pakistani news group 'PTV', www.ptv.com.pk. Thanks for your warning.--Maliki 786 10:39, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

images
I did a research and realized that the site was not run by the Ministry of defence... Can i replace them with the one from the Indian Army's Website? Please advise... i think those will not infringe anybodys rights... or else they need to be deleted.... --Aravind Parvatikar 14:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Hindi translation to Taj Mahal
Can someone help me understand the relevance of the Hindi translation of Taj Mahal? The words appear not be Hindi in origin; typically the name is thought to be a corruption of Persian (which I realize has a relationship to Hindi, but also to Urdu, etc.). Why Hindi in particular? Why not Urdu or Persian? Why a translation at all? --Nemonoman 15:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Seven Wonders of the World
Hi. I've no idea where that list of Top 7 wonders has come from, but it definitely isn't at the external link supplied in the article. The organisation involved are running a poll to determine a new 7 wonders, and the 21 things there are on their shortlist. I've reinstated my edit. If you can find a source for that Top 7 wonders great, but the poll and the shortlist deserves to stay. Morwen - Talk 17:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, few months ago New 7 Wonders did provide a list of top 7 wonders on its main page. Unfortunately, they removed it. I have no problem with revert. Thanks --Deepak|वार्ता 06:15, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Shaheen II missile pic
submitted, its actually a television screenshot Ali786

Abdali-I
submitted, its actually a television screenshot Ali786

Ghauri,Ghauri-II
submitted, its actually a television screenshot Ali786

Ghaznavi
submitted, its actually a television screenshot Ali786

Hatf 1
submitted, its actually a television screenshot Ali786

Delhi location and simlar
Please see Agra.

I copied the orange Agra location image from the French wiki, and thought it did the trick.

The new image is not pleasant: very busy, hard to find Agra, etc.

Your image for Delhi and similar for other India cities (e.g., Belgaum) might be a good compromise.

Can you make one for Agra, or point me to the base image and I will make one.

Thanks.

--Nemonoman 21:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. Thanks for asking my help :) --Deepak|वार्ता 06:16, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to Deepak!
Hi Deepak, I see you are busy with studies, but let me just take this moment to thank you for your support of my RfA! It was much appreciated, and I am now an admin. If at any time I can help you with anything, please let me know! Thanky thanky, Babajobu 15:29, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Paramount Airways
Thanks for merging these two articles. I took my eye off them and hadn't done anything about it for a while. -- Adz 06:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
 * No problemo --Deepak|वार्ता 06:17, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Political Integration of India
Hi Deepak - I know you're busy but I would appreciate your help in procuring a map of British India, say upto 1946. I've seen some maps, but I don't know how to obtain copyright permission and upload it. I've started the peer review, and would much appreciate comments/ideas on improving the article. Any help is most welcome.

Jai Sri Rama! Rama&#39;s Arrow 01:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Deepak - I've obtained a copyright permission to use a map suggested to me by Deeptrivia. I filed it under GFDL and also pasted a copy of the emails I exchanged with the designer. I hope there is no source of problem, but I added every detail to clarify the circumstances. Thanks a million for your advice and help.

Rama&#39;s Arrow 16:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Meditation Photo
That's an incredible photo on the Meditation page! Thanks! Csbodine 22:34, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Terrorism in Pakistan
You may be interested in: this. freestylefrappe 02:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

North India
Hi, I see you have put up a map of north India on that page. It is nice, but don't you think the map should exclude Orissa? Can you please fix it? ImpuMozhi 21:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Hindi vs Urdu
Someone edited Jahangir and changed "Hindi movie" to "Urdu movie". I thought Hindi and Urdu were pretty much the same as spoken, difference was in written alphabet. Is this right? How can I confirm a Hindi vs Urdu movie? Is there an agenda associated with changing "Hindi" to "Urdu"? thanks...--Nemonoman 15:03, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

FAC
Hi Deepak! I wanted to inform you that the Political integration of India is up for FAC. I hope you will have some time to consider the work, and give it an up or down vote. Thanks! Rama&#39;s Arrow 04:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Pondicherry map
Hey Deepak, since you are the best in creating these kind of maps, I wanted you to point out this map, that is used in some articles on Wikipedia. Could you make a map consistent with other India location maps we have? Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 15:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Done --Deepak|वार्ता 21:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Nehru stadium
Sorry about that. Can we use a cricket stadium since it being the most popular sport? - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 21:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Maps
Hi Deepak. Fantabulous job with Pondicherry, Magadha, and Agra maps! There are some requested maps at History of India project. Just have a look whenever you have some time. Of course, it would be great if you joined the project. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 04:37, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

mumtaz pic
What was wrong with the old pic?--Nemonoman 23:21, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

In regards to images
Hi Deepak,

Actually I have e-mailed Time magazine in regards to this.

They are gonna respond to me in 1 or 2 days about allowing me to use those images on this site.

Just a question:

If they do allow me to use those images on this site, how do i go about proving that they have given me permission??

Let me know

Deepak: E-mail I wrote to Time
E-mail I wrote to Time:

Hi There,

I currently editing an artile on wikipedia about the Pakistan Army and I was wondering if I could use some of your images to enhance the article.

Here are the images which I am talking about.

http://www.time.com/time/asia/photoessays/siachen/pak8.html

Please let me know

Thanks

Vick

E-mail Time wrote back to Me:

''Dear Vick, Thank you for your e-mail. We have passed your request onto the relavent department to consider accordingly. Thank you for your attention. Yours truly, Elaine Wu Hong Kong Customer Services''

Navratri Picture
Ahmedabad is the city, where Navratri is celebrated with great pomp and fanfare. The picture of Navratri was put there in that spirit. I suggest that you put the picture back again.

Anirudh

Yoga
Hinduism? ==

I have very much been considering removing the Hinduism templates from the article, even as you are removing the mention other religions.

The difference is that I plan to make my case in the discussion pages before I make this change.

I am very concerned that your edits are not valid. This matter is clearly not resolved, and clearly not resolved enough to change the opening as drastically as you are doing.

I am rv'ing your changes.

Feel free to discuss, but let's do so on the Yoga discussion pages.--Nemonoman 23:47, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Monotheism
Thanks, Deepak for the edit! I was editing a previous edit which had Vaishnavism only. Regards, Raj2004 00:22, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Re:Hindu
Hi Deepak - I noticed the problems on talk:Hindu with a user:SocialWorker. I'm posting this here coz I don't want it to feed this person's actions, but we should be careful that the assertions/info that is the subject of this person's rants is NPOV/factual. While his/her behavior is destructive, he/she may have a point if the data in question is not well researched. Rama&#39;s Arrow 21:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Deepak - I completely agree with your beliefs and position. Should the matter intensify, you may expect my ready support for the defense of the article - I know this SocialWorker is akin to the dalit and Muslim extremists with a very anti-Hindu political agenda. My only concern was that we should be assured of our own ground on the issue according to Wikipedia norms. For example, if the matter came to the attention of a non-Indian administrator, it should not be found that the material we were defending carried some non-factual, POV elements. I know the Hindu article requires many revisions. On the other hand, if the reference is provided, nothing may be disputed.


 * Btw, I consider the Gita to be a wonderful, scientific discourse on the discovery of God - it is astounding to anyone interested in the working of the world. Rama&#39;s Arrow 02:54, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, this is the purpose of my life - to get some questions answered. Good luck for your exams - I'll do some revisions on the article (ps - don't tell anybody.....I put that stuff into the article about who is a Hindu.....I created this article...) Rama&#39;s Arrow 03:21, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Open tasks in History of India project
Just to update you on the current status of the project, here's a list of the current open tasks. Please contribute towards completing them, and feel free to add more to this list. deeptrivia (talk) 04:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Humanity
Hello, I found your name at wikiproject:hinduism, and was hoping you might join us at talk:human, where things have become rather unbalanced and unrepresentitive of humanity as a whole. Hope your interested, Sam Spade 16:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

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Cleaning up
Hello Deepak, my point isn't to edit war. What you did by changing that info is making it so most of the paragraphs have India says this and India says that without the other side. I agree the article is in pathetic shape but almost all the edit you did were one sided and at the end the only other POV that was given you said "India however rebuffs these allegations as an attempt to create a false anti-India propaganda." That does not seem biased to you? Having four paragraphs on how India accuses these groups and Pakistan and then the numbers of "terrorist camps", but only one sentence on India's responsibility and then claiming that sentence as unikely. We are not here to cover up anything, so the best thing for you to do is to make the information shorter and not repeated. Try doing small edits to each section. Also sources is not the problem here, sources can be found but it should be clearly said whose sources. -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 17:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * What is the concern with the cleansing part, it gives both sides? I think we should make the article shorter and that could fix some of the problems. -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 17:37, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Guys..
UH guys.. i saw that like six wikipedians have left a message to this guy but dont you think he left already? i mean he hasnt answered back so.. you just expressing my opinion Wikivmk 19:04, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

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Goodbye
Well it seems you aren't coming back. My best wishes to you for the future. Take care and thanks for all your good work for Wikipedia, and advice/help you've given me. Jai Sri Rama! Rama&#39;s Arrow 13:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

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GUPTA! Please dont leave Wikipedia. We need you. I have followed your pages for the last semester or so. Very good work! The Sims need you too! -- The preceding message was left by Thomas Anderson, a very good friend of Deepak Gupta --Deepak 17:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thomas, I hate SIMS!! and stop tempting me to play that stupid game. Haha --Deepak 17:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Leaving
Are you leaving? I agree with your message about this not being reliable and no one really uses this encyclopedia seriously, but editing can still be good. So see if you reconsider. I know so many people have left it already. -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 18:30, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

dear deepak
deepak ji, i know its a frustrating thing - trying to pass on your opinion onto others - but look on the bright side, at least you can have your ideas heard by others...don't give up, just back up your claims with facts and ppl will understand you

Come back
Sorry to hear it, hope you return at some point. Babajobu 04:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Away?!
Credibility is a problem we all agree, but should you quit? How about taking a nice long wikibreak instead to calm you down? Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  08:50, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't Go!
You have been a vital contributor to the project. I hate it when finally "realise" it is no longer worth writing here. Everybody wants you to stay. Please  D a Gizza Chat  &#169; 09:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Reasons for staying

 * Yeah Deepak, don't leave. I believe Wikipedia is more to learn from than contributing to - think of the conflict-resolution skills that you will pick up here, let alone the joy of obtaining vast amount of information simply by writing articles, and reading them.


 * You might not think most people take Wikipedia seriously, but it is the largest in the world. Just like Hinduism - you can't give up on a widely-misunderstood but exceedingly rich and diverse faith. Rama&#39;s Arrow 07:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * If you do decide to stick to leaving, count on this - check back in 2047; I'll be here.Rama&#39;s Arrow 07:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Please continue
I am aware of the problems and the stress one may sometime encounter here – but would not you agree that editing here is a really satisfying activity?. As regards the credibility, we all must continue here to ensure and add to the credibility of the Project. Please stay back. At least, please come back after sometime. --Bhadani 08:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Purpose of WP
As I see it, it serves two purposes - one, as an encyclopedia; here or on EB, people know that nothing is God's gospel - my belief is that the WP model helps in bringing material closer to perfection than EB. two, it helps us grow as human beings. I believe that you should stay, but probly take a wikibreak, come back and work on missing articles. Whatever your decision, I wish you all the best in your life, but I also wish thatt you keep contributing to WP. --Gurubrahma 08:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Some comments
I can completely understand your frustration and I agree with what you are saying about arguments on petty things. To me, it makes wikipedia an even more interesting experience, a good opportunity to practice metta, among other things. A few humble suggestions:

As recently as yesterday I found a factually incorrect article based on information from a hate site, but I haven't done anything with the article for now (although I am discussing the problem in general elsewhere) because I can't think of a way of doing this without confronting with the author. I know I have better things to do. We all need you here, Deepak, and highly appreciate your contributions. Please stay! deeptrivia (talk) 17:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * A wikibreak will definitely help, but please don't go!
 * Try focussing on science related articles for some time, if that interests you. Editors' attitude in those fields is extremely constructive, and there are few confrontations.
 * Consider contributing towards shaping a more effective verifiability policy, and contributing to Fact and Reference Check project.


 * Take a short break and come back, Deepak, or jump to another area for a few weeks as DT suggests. I think almost all of us here have thought about quitting at one point or another due to stress. But staying away for long feels worse than staying on. Tintin (talk) 16:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

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Holi greetings. --Bhadani 10:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

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Partition graphic
Deepak, we can take a poll on this if you'd like, but I find the original graphic much preferable to the one you created. It is much bolder and more easily comprehensible. Your graphic is too small, not as colorful, and cluttered with irrelevant place names. Sorry to be so blunt, but there it is. None of us is the best judge of his/her own work. Are you sure you want to insist on placing your graphic at the top? Zora 01:17, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Frankly, my main intention was to give an illustration of India before and after the partition. Perhaps, I am not very good in making maps. Please go ahead place my graphic in any appropriate section. Cheers --Incman|वार्ता 01:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Peer review Kolkata
Hi! A request has been made for peer review of Kolkata. Could you please help improving the article? Thanks a lot.--Dwaipayanc 11:35, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Good that you are back in action. Delhi needs urgent attention. I tried to do some edits and in the process, ruthlessly edited out many portions and also created some daughter articles. There is nothing in the Utility services, while the Origin of name is a very short section. Many red links are there. Please see. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! Yes the article is in great shape. I have not read it throughly in its new avatar. On a quick glance, here are some points:
 * "Culture" needs suumarisation. As per WikiProject Indian cities, there should not be any subsection. However, Sports subsection can be retained, and even can be made a seperate section. Also, in culture, the usual dress people wear should be mentioned. We can do without "Shopping" I guess. At least, the subsection shopping should not be there. The content has to be summarised. IMO, a daughter article should be created for Delhi culture. And the content is to be summarised in the main article. THe new images of Pan and the children having a splash in the pond is absolutely fantastic.
 * I see most of the points in "to do" list have been done. Thats great. In gist, "Culture" summarisation needed. Then put it for Peer Review. Following a peer review, there should not be any problem to make it an FA. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * See What is a featured article? point 3, where it states that "It complies with the standards set out in the style manual and relevant WikiProjects." So Delhi has to abide by thr project.
 * In fact, I was talking to Nichalp (who is the main architect of that project) refarding the rigidity imposed by the project. Nichalp wanted to know further opinion on the alleged rigidity. However, I could not discuss more due to shortage of time. However, the efficacy of this Project has been proven. Many Indian city article has been promoted to FA status following the guidelines.
 * My own experience with Kolkata is same. Initially it had a section called "Tourism" and also Subsections in "Culture" like Cinema, Literature etc (you can understand that cinema and literature are very important part of Kolkata culture as is Shopping in case of Delhi). However. later. Nichalp pointed out that rule 3.
 * You can discuss in the talk page of the Indian Cities project. I shall also join. With Nichalp around, we should be able to carve out a way. For the time being, I strongly disagree with retaining "shopping" as a subsection in Delhi. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Nichalp abd Deepak, one thing we should remember, this project has produced 6 FAs. So the effectiveness of the guidelines is beyond doubt. However, with a lot more cities being worked on (2 are in peer review, and at least 2 more getting readied), it's high time we review the project, may be get some feedback some others. Some sort of flexibilities can be incorporated, keeping in view the diverse nature of the cities, as Deepak has pointed out.
 * Too much subsectioning rather hinders the reading. Also makes the ToC clumsy. However, a ew subsectioning is acceptable/ However, subsectioning creates another problem. Thebalance of size between different sections is lost (with subsections, Delhi culture is gonna be much larger than, say, Economy of Delhi.
 * The project says Sports can be incorporated within Culture. So no problems with that.Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with your points regarding subsections in Kolkata, Delhi etc. and the ease which subsectioning would allow. However, I want to clarify the "no-subsection" is not my view. t is in the project page. Now, I also had similar questions when I started to upgrade the Kolkata articele. I propose to retain the present format for Delhi for the time being, and ask in the project talk page, and also in talk page of Nichalp regarding the issue (which we already have done). We should wait for the reply by Nichalp. After discussing with him and others conserned, may be we could modify the project/ increase its flexibility to some extent. Waiting a few days before moving Delhi to peer review - hope that's ok with you. 2 Indian cities are already in peer review. So we can wait a bit.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey! You seem to be up early. I am not usually. However, for last few days I am in Delhi for some works, staying in AIIMS hostel, in the midst of the anti-reservation protests. And I am getting awaekened here unusually early! Where do you stay in Delhi?--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

NCT
I have responded on my talk page and on the talk page of the article. Noisy | Talk 08:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Delhi
Hi Deepak. I'm currently pressed for time. Will look into it later. Take Nichalp into confidence as he was the one who brought Mumbai, among others, to FA status. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Summary for Delhi
Hi Deepak,

I am currently looking into selecting "Today's Selected Article" for Portal:India. Delhi recently became a selected article on Portal:India. In order for it to appear on the main page of the portal, can you please provide a summary with an image on this page on the same lines as existing articles do. Thanks, -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Arabic Translation for Taj Mahal
Dear Deepak: You may remember a discussion we had concerning translation of the words "Taj Mahal". The opening sentence of that article now not only includes English, Hindi, Urdu, and International Phonetic Alphabet translations, a new editor has recently added an Arabic translation. I'm sure you can issue useful guidelines on treatment of these translations as well. --Nemonoman 17:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
Just saw your pics gallery bro, very nice pictures indeed :-) Did you take them yourself? --Raja 08:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats impressive! You have a very good eye for good pics my friend. The first picture of Lord Shiva is a beautiful picture, you really caught the essence there. Keep up the good work bro :-)--Raja 08:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Your contribution to Delhi
Hi Deepak, I haven't seen you online in a while now... This is a very belated barnstar from my side for the great job you did on Delhi in May (Actually, I didnt know how to award barnstars back then :))... Before you are confused, I used to go by the username Ramitmahajan before this and we had met on the Delhi article.

I hereby award you this Barnstar for your tireless contributions to Delhi! -- Lost 12:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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Hi
Hi Deepak - hope everything's going well. So wat's your status? Are you back full-time now? Regards, Rama&#39;s Arrow 07:04, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi! Things are going great - have written 5 FAs! Hope you're back full time. Cheers, This Fire Burns.....Always   15:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Still waiting for you to resume again. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)