User talk:Deepak~enwiki/archive6

Research and Analysis Wing
Hello, i would first like to thank you for the excellent pic on indian foreign relations, i have used it to illustrate the research and analysis page, please visit the page and suggest some improvements Legaleagle86 15:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello Deepak, I wish to know how yuou have created the image Indiaforeignrelations.png, because I wish to create an image of missile reach for an article on AgniLegaleagle86 14:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

 * Your quite welcome you deserve it [[Image:Smile.png]]-- Sea dog  .M.S

Raja Yoga controversy
Dear Hinduism Project editors,

There is a controversy on the Hinduism regarding Raja Yoga. Please read the debate on the Hinduism discussion page. Your comments are requested on the Hinduism discussion page to help resolve the controversy. Thank you. HeBhagawan 14:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks for your suggestion. Hinduism itself is a vast and diversified subject. I have no idea who has created it. I have no idea, how to find it out. Normally, history shows particular edit. I doubt, I will be allowed to remove anything from there in present situation. Thanks once again. Swadhyayee 05:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks, I will see what I can do.Swadhyayee 06:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Muhammad bin Qasim

 * Revert war brewing there with User:Siddiqui regarding the same issues that you had with the article.Could you take a look?Hkelkar 15:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thanks for the barnstar :) Hkelkar 21:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Diwali
I was looking into the Diwali article and I noticed something strange. The intro paragraph said that Diwali was celebrated in Buddhism, which struck me right away as strange since I am rather familiar with Buddhism (East Asian at least), and I am pretty sure we don't celebrate Diwali. I tried to search the article for an explanation but I didn't find one. I was hoping that you could tell me if there is a significance of Diwali in Buddhism or if it at least is historical. Thank you, and happy Diwali! Mar de Sin  Speak up!  19:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the insight!  Mar de Sin   Speak up!  21:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Urgent. I need perspective
User:TerryJ-Ho and user:BhaiSaab lost a mediation to me and are retaliating by demanding thatthe well-sourced article anti-Hindu be deleted. Please contribute to the AfD discussion. Articles for deletion/Anti-Hindu.Hkelkar 01:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Diwalipuja.jpg
Hi, This image you have uploaded just carries a PD tag. Is it PD-self? Can you update the tag and maybe upload it to commons so that other wikipedias can use it too? Thanks! Shushruth \talk page \ contribs 20:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Article translation request
Hi Deepak. Obviously, we need at least a stub on nl:Hindoestanen on the English wikipedia. I'll create one soon by translating the lead of the Dutch article, but since my knowledge of the language is quite limited, I request you to have a look when you have time. Thanks, deeptrivia (talk) 00:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Here's the stub. deeptrivia (talk) 01:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The article contained some errors regarding the religion. I have read reputable sources in Dutch language, though it takes some time to get them again. The Hindus in the Netherlands have their own broadcasting organization. Andries 20:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Image's copyright
Hello how are you? I just want to report you that your image, Image:Bedugul.jpg has been warned about it's copyright. I reckon you better check it. Cheers -- Imo  eng  21:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well yeah, that is the point. We need the image for Hinduism in Indonesia and Religion in Indonesia. Could you contact the photographer, please? No pressure though. Cheers -- Imo  eng  02:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I appreciate it. Imo  eng  03:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Tata Steel
nice cpyedits [sic] u made. appreciate them. -- mowgli 18:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

FN Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier
Please help me with a WIKI article related conflict in the India-Pakistan section of FN CHarles de Gaulle. There is a user (UberCryxic) who keep on reverting unilaterally to sections that involve unverified claims (in my opinion). What are the WIKI rules? Please arbitrate. I do not know how to call for an arbitration. Thanks.

Indian architecture
Images you uploaded have been removed from this article and it seems they are about to be removed from wikipedia due to copyright concerns. This would be sad as they contribute greatly to the article. can you promtly confirm their status so they are not removed. thanks you --Merbabu 01:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

reincarnation
In what way did you think the reincarnation photo violated the copyright? THanksHeBhagawan 03:06, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

The map of India in wikipedia
Dear Deepak,

I wanted to greet and congratulate you for making our motherland full and intcat on wikipedia map.

I express a word of gratitude for you for this remarkable work by your good self.

Thanks again & again.

योगेशः कुळकर्णी

Yogesh Kulkarni

yogesh@digitorq.com, yogamegha@gmail.com, swamiyogesh@hotmail.com.


 * Well.. thank you Mr. Kulkarni --Incman|वार्ता 18:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair Use images
When I initially joined Wikipedia, about 2 years back, I did upload a handful of images under the Fair Use criteria without fully understanding it. Eventually, most of them got rightfully deleted while a lot others remain. Your dedication to remove images tagged as Fair Use but not meeting the Fair Use criteria is inspiring. I will try remove the remaining Fair Use images in my free time. Keep up the good work! --Incman|वार्ता 19:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Great. I wish others editors could understand that the matter is not a personal issue, just like you do.
 * You can ask for the deletion of an image you uploaded (and were the only editor to make significant changes) by using the db-author tag. Best regards, --Abu Badali 19:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to load you with long message meant for you along with others.
Being a Hindu from India and having attempted to edit the article, my experience is, no worthy edits are allowed in the article and the same is tried to be monopolised by a single editor. To me, the article is projecting improper connotation of the subject Hinduism. The references lead to a book source page and is not true reference to the respective text incorporated. The article is victim of sock-puppetry. Incivility is used to discourage other editors. Even if, the layout or the text is otherwise good, the article has to do justice to the subject matter but the article is forced to be devoid of logics of Hinduism doctrines and created to be seen Hinduism doctrines as superstitious which as a Hindu, I object. In principle, the article should be free for worthy edits which under one or other pretext or by sock-puppetry tactics is prevented from. It would be apparent from the talk page of Hinduism that incivility is freely used to discourage other edits. Citations for the matter of general knowledge of Hindus is sought and removed whereas other matters without due citations or supported by improper or false citations incorporated by a single editor or a group stay.

Is this all done to get FAC? then it's wrong.

While feeling honour as a Hindu, if, this article is nominated as FAC, I in principle plead that it should be considered whether right cause is backed by right means? Swadhyayee 07:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates/Hinduism"

(To Mr.Tony.) I have seen you applying mind to Hinduism shortcomings. My concern is HeBhagawan do not allow right connotations being incorporated in the article. My feeling is, it is due to the article having been nominated for FAC apart from his personal belief to be most fit to write Hinduism article.

I suffer a great deal of pain when Hinduism is projected dimly. I do not want to improperly glorify Hinduism but I want that right connotations of Hinduism find it's place in the article. Hinduism has capability to provide thinking for human religion, rather is a human religion. The philosophy imbibed in Hindus make them tolerant to contradictory views and contradictory customs. Hindus have a very large population. One may experience isolated incidents or groups intolerant to contradictory views and customs but average Hindu is very tolerant, co-operative and helping.

I am deadly against the psyche of any editor of not allowing others to incorporate facts of general knowledge in the name of citation. Though Hindus are strict vegetarians and believe in idol worship, they are not vengeful against Muslims. There may exist element of dislike but it's due to some other reasons. Christains and Parsis though non-veg. have excellent relationship with Hindus. This I am saying to support my statement that Hinduism is a human religion and I wish Hinduism is properly explained in the Wikipedia article.

To my mis-fortune, enough knowledgable editors are either not available or do not come forward to help. I am pretty sure that HeBhagawan is involved in sock-puppetry.

If you observe, he has to frequently edit his statements and yet you could point out poor language. In spite of this, he has been repeatedly involving in incivil comments against me that my English is not good, is full of grammatical mistakes, give a different meaning, my contributions damage the article and exhibit un-fettered authority by suggesting me to edit other articles or edit in other languages and is being supported by Priyanath to suggest me to write blogs or personal websites.

I have principled objections against Wikipedia articles being deprived of free edits. I believe, howsoever good one editor may be, he has no extra constitutional authority to prevent someone from incorporating additional facts in Wikipedia articles that not known to him. It's still worst to involve in sock-puppetry to make incivil coments to serve the malice purpose.

I do not know whether you have a chair of authority to help me or not but I found you interested in preserving standard for FAC and I wish you also hold views of significance of right means behind a right cause.

With due apology for long comments.

Swadhyayee 04:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tony1"

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Hinduism"

Indian subcontinent
Good that you gave the reference. Meeting you after a long gap perhaps! --Bhadani 21:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Awesome barnstar! Thanks. --Bhadani 21:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:ChineseTributaryStates.png
Please clarify your points of contentions with Image:ChineseTributaryStates.png you labeled factual on November 6, 2006. Is it with the actual map itself or with the information on the page List of tributaries of Imperial China? Also consider that some of the unlisted sources could have been from Tributary states in Chinese history - in Simplified Chinese listed in the external links. Thank you, 24630 01:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe Sri Lanka paid tribute to the Ming Dynasty as a result of Zheng He fleet expeditions (a source is already provided) and Afghanistan, Nepal, and Bhutan were part of the tributary system during the Tang dynasty pre-Battle of Talas River. 24630 02:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Copyright?

 * I saw that both images were under creative commons. I did not see the notices posted regarding this on the copyright problems page.Please guide me.Hkelkar 20:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I saw creative commons liscense in both images and thought that it was OK.May be not.I commented out the images in all the articles where it was linked for now.Hkelkar 21:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What about "fair use"? Like, the Delhi pic depicts Delhi. That is precisely what we are depicting on wikipedia.Fair use on Delhi article only should be ok.The sansad image is used in multiple articles so fair use it a bit itschy on that one. The akshardham image is not used anywhere so go ahead and get that removed. I hadn;t realized that wikipedia already has a good akshardham image.Hkelkar 21:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Check the liscense for this image Image:Delhi-Dawn.jpg. I think it's ok as it is attribution sharealike without commercial restriction.Hkelkar 02:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Pakistan GDP
Good catch ! I missed the headings and thought they were 2006 figures. Siddiqui 21:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Well.. thank you :) --Incman|वार्ता 21:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Help with finding images

 * I am looking for an appropriately liscensed image of the AIIMS flyover in Delhi. Can you help me find one? What about this:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030516/ncr.htm

What is the copyright status here? I am a bit confused. Does fair use apply?Hkelkar 02:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Question regarding image copyrights
Could you help me out with this:




 * Hi, I would like to use some images of infrastructure in Mumbai and Delhi and have found some pics of the Mumbai-Pune Expressway and the AIIMS Flyover in New Delhi.However, I am unsure of the licenses and would like some help in figuring out if it is allowed for me to upload them to wikipedia. The image url's are below:


 * 1) Tribune India (News Source)
 * 2) Image Shack
 * 3) Image Shack
 * 4) Businessworld India (News Source)

This appears to be the rules page of imageshack.us (where other users upload images):

http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=rules

I find it a bit confusing and was wondering if somebody could explain the rules more clearly so that we could figure out if they are compatible with wikipedia policy of image copyrights or not?

Also, are google earth captures allowed on wikipedia? Thanks.Hkelkar 02:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

PS: I guess you already told me about the tribune India image. What about the others? Hkelkar 07:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Indian Navy article requires citation.
In the Indian Navy article, that you have contributed requires a citation for the part According to a report published by the US Congress, the Indian Navy could be among the top three navies in the world by 2009[citation needed].. The report cannot be found. Your help is required in this regard.

Chanakyathegreat 03:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your compliments
Thanks for your compliments about the India page. I meant to thank you here, but absent-mindedly thanked you on my page. Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  01:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Kurukshetra war
Deepak - you have contributed a beautiful picture of Krishna and Arjuna in the article on the Kurukshetra War. I am just starting to read the Gita, and I'd love to find a tapestry or print of this picture. Where did you find it?

bill.jennings@gmail.com

Jammu & Kashmir
Hi Deepak please dont remove Karan Sing from Jammu & Kashmir, he is the would be "Maharaja / king" of all of Jammu & Kashmir, please check history. His father was king he stepped down from throne and he acceded to India like so many Royals did from all the Princly States.

Thanks

08:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Atulsnischal


 * So you mean to say Karan Singh is the would be Maharaja of Jammu and Kashmir?! Nevermind, the very purpose of the See also section is to provide links to readers to articles on other topics related to the concerned topic. I just don't understand why would a person who would like to gain some information regarding J&K will go to an article on Karan Singh? Besides, so what if he belongs to a royal family? --Incman|वार्ता 08:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Deepak,

'''What politician are you talking about, he is the KING of all Jammu & Kashmir for gods sake. Please check the history of the state.'''

Atulsnischal 08:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Jammu and Kashmir
So you mean to say Karan Singh is the would be Maharaja of Jammu and Kashmir?! Nevermind, the very purpose of the See also section is to provide links to readers to articles on other topics related to the concerned topic. I just don't understand why would a person who would like to gain some information regarding J&K will go to an article on Karan Singh? Besides, so what if he belongs to a royal family? --Incman|वार्ता 08:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Haha.. KING of Jammu and Kashmir.. the last thing I want to know is that India is a monarchy. LOL! --Incman|वार्ता 08:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Deepak

Some people still respect him on all 3 sides of the Borders of J&K, he may someday help people to come together and reach some understanding, atleast he can do some good on his own, he has a historical connection to this disputed land and its people, we can atleast provide a link to people for an important chapter in the history of J&K and a very important personality of the state.

Thats all, I was just thinking the best for the people of J&K, I am not here to fight with you, please rethink and revert

Best wishes

Atulsnischal 09:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, at the same time you must realize that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and therefore not the right mean for all this. --Incman|वार्ता 09:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Atulsnischal, if you continue with your stubborn attitude, I will have to take up the matter to a Wikipedia administrator or Arbcom. --Incman|वार्ता 19:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Deepak

You seem to be obssed with the Jammu and Kashmir article on Wikipedia, anybody can make it out, you have got stuck and are going on and on about it, you dont respect other peoples viws too, as for me I think there should be a link to Dr Karan Singh's article here, which was just a stub, so I was trying to develop it, thats all, you are playing politics over the whole issue, please think with informational and historical point of view.....

I have also copyed this discussion with you in the Jammu and Kashmir as well as Dr Karan Singh's discussion page, just for the record that Dr Karan Singh article was discussed, as it is a legitimate discussion.

If you get time later please help in developing Dr Karan Singh's article on Wikipedia too.

Just for info only as you seem interested: Latest News on Kashmir topic today: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/12/05/pakistan-kashmir.html?ref=rss

Thanks Cheers

Atulsnischal 20:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

'Su-30 MKI fit to carry Brahmos’
'Su-30 MKI fit to carry Brahmos’ Siddharta D Kashyap [ 8 Dec, 2006 1244hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ] http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/India/Su-30_MKI_fit_to_carry_Brahmos/articleshow/743702.cms RSS Feeds| SMS NEWS to 8888 for latest updates

PUNE: An expert committee from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the Indian Air Force (IAF) has ruled out any structural modification to the advanced Sukhoi-30 MKI, if it has to be fitted with the supersonic Brahmos cruise missile.

The development assumes significance as the IAF had expressed reservation on the feasibility of fitting the three-tonne missile on a Su-30 MKI, saying the excessive weight was incompatible for the fighter fleet.

In May, A. Sivathanu Pillai, the chief controller (R&D ), DRDO, had told TOI that decks have been cleared to conduct the first trials of the air-to-land version of Brahmos from a Sukhoi-MkI fighter jet by next year end.

“A joint team of experts from the IAF, the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Brahmos Aerospace and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited was constituted to conduct a feasibility study,” a senior official told TOI, confirming the development.

“The expert committee has come to the conclusion that no structural changes are required in the aircraft to fit the Brahmos,” the official said. Experts are now working to accommodate at least two missiles in the aircraft, he added.

“The challenge is to try and fit one missile under each of the two wings of the Su-30 MKI,” the official said, adding that the integration trials of a dummy missile are scheduled in the first quarter of next year.

Efforts are also on to modify the control panel in the cockpit, which will allow the pilot to fire the missile at ease. With the induction of the 290-km range cruise missile, the city is poised to emerge as the country’s top strategic defence base. The IAF’s Lohegaon base here is the only one with two squadrons of the Su-30 MKI. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.191.35.75 (talk) 15:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Your Comments at WP:AN/I

 * It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks!   Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.  -- Chabuk [ T • C ] 05:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

List of topics on the land and the people of “Jammu and Kashmir”
I've added the "prod" template to the article List of topics on the land and the people of “Jammu and Kashmir”, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:List of topics on the land and the people of “Jammu and Kashmir”. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Incman|वार्ता 17:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

This is the List of topics on the land and the people of “Jammu and Kashmir”

Atulsnischal 09:46, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

This is the comprehensive List of topics which deal with "the People”, “the Culture & Heritage” and “the Land” of Jammu and Kashmir:

This List is a comprehensive list of articles on Wikipedia which deal with "the People”, “the Culture & Heritage” and “the land” of Jammu and Kashmir and it is definitely not like the Kashmir (disambiguation) Page. This list should remain on Wikipedia for people to be able to easily access all articles on different aspects of the people, culture and the area of Jammu and Kashmir.

Atulsnischal 23:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Ronnie Irani is not parsi
Iranis are a different zorostrian community. they are indian zoros who came from iran recently, like a hundred years ago, as opposed to parsis, who were there longer. see Irani for details. some iranis consider themselves parsi, if they are greatly mixed, like me, but he wasnt, so he is irani, as most consider themselves. Sohrab Irani 17:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Delhi PR
Hi! Delhi is in Peer review. Can you please have a look? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Hinduism-related Collaboration of the week
You have been invited to help improve the article Sita Ram Goel in this weeks's Hinduism collaboration. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. See also these related articles. 

You can also vote for next's week collaboration at the project page: Hinduism-related Collaboration of the week. Unfortunately, the Collaboration site is little known, that's why the reminder. --Bondego 14:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Delhi FAC
Well, Delhi is in FAC. Without the FAC I thought there would not be sufficient improvement. Please give inputs. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Terrorism in country categories
I saw you created the Terrorism in India category a while back. A new user is upset by the use of the word terrorism and is removing categories from pages at random. I would appreciate it if you would take a look at, and consider reverting the user's edits to, East Turkestan Islamic Movement, Grey Wolves, and Kurdistan Workers Party. Thanks, KazakhPol 02:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Delhi FAC comments
Could you please see Blacksun's comments in the FAC? I guess we need some die hard Delhiite to take care of the culture section. Please help. I am also requesting some others. You can communicate with your known people as well. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:50, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Mughal painting2.jpg
I notice you uploaded this image - I'm just questioning why fair-use is required for this and why a PD-art can't be used instead? --Joopercoopers 15:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Taj Mahal RFC

 * I've filed an RFC relating to the Taj Mahal at Talk:Taj Mahal. Your comments would be welcome. Joopercoopers 18:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Delhi_map.PNG
Hi! I work on Wikitravel, and we're using your map of the districts in Delhi in our travel guide on the city. Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the original .svg so I can alter the districts so that it matches the districts we're using on Wikitravel? I'd obviously mention in the image description that it was adapted from your original and release it back out into the public domain! If that's possible, please let me know. -- Tsandell 15:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Great news
Hi Deepak! Great news. Delhi became a featured article. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thank you. However, it was your skeleton that I worked on and tried to give some flesh! Anyway, New Delhi may be next in the pipeline. Nichalp also seems to be interested in that. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha! and some ornaments, too!--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

hi
You've been involved in the whole "hijacking of Pakistan's history" issue. Care to comment here Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan/Evidence with your views? Baka man  05:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

4th generation jet fighter
Hello,

Please discuss before editing the article as mentioned by the refrences on both JF-17 Thunder and J-10 the Pakistan Air Force will procure these aircrafts in 2007.

and as mentioned on 4th generation jet fighter: (and I quote)

"Aircraft classified as fourth generation jet fighters are those in service approximately from 1980–2010"

These aircrafts will enter service way before 2010, 2007 to be exact. The J-10 according to my research will also be introduced in the Pakistan Air Force in late 2007.

Again, please discuss before editing these articles.

Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Faraz (talk • contribs) 14:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

J-10 is Chinese. Pakistan may purchase it. The contribution to J-10 by Pakistan is nil. The Pakistan's has a habit of claiming anything that they purchase as a joint venture. Even Pakistan's contribution to the JF-17 is just the 50% development cost and nothing more.

Regarding the Tejas at present we can consider it as a 4th generation. The programme is progressing and if the radars are AESA instead of the MMR's we can consider it as a 4+ Generation. Chanakyathegreat 17:13, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Alright, As mentioned on JF-17 Thunder the jet fighter will be procured/inducted by the Pakistan Air Force on 23 march 2007 I agree it should be kept under "Developmental", my sources like this confirm that the project is going as planned and I will be more than happy to provide more of these citations on this subject. Regarding J-10s, I have no citations or intent of saying that Pakistan was involved in the development of the aircraft but will be "operating" J-10s.

4th generation jet fighter - Sukhoi Su-30MKI
''Hey, sorry to interfere but I would like to share some quick points. There is a difference between a customized aircraft (ex F-15SG) and a jointly developed aircraft (ex JSF). Su-30 MKI does not come under both of these categories for the following reasons:''


 * Though, Su-30 MKI is a variant of Sukhoi's Su-30, the avionics of the aircraft (like radar computer, radar warning receiver, mission computer etc.) are made by DRDO and HAL; a crucial component of any fighter aircraft. As a matter of fact, there are talks of Indian avionics being used in the variant Sukhoi has developed for Malaysia.
 * The missiles being used in the aircraft are also Indian. For example: Astra missile will replace KAB-500L and Brahmos (joint Indo-Russian) will replace Kh-59. DRDO is already developing an indigenous Optical locator system for these missiles.
 * Electronic countermeasure system of the aircraft is Indian too. Tarang, the RWR system, was developed by DRDO.
 * Israel's contribution to the aircraft is equivalent to that of Russia's. Elta EL/M-8222 self-protection jammer and LITENING targeting pod are all Israeli made.
 * French contribution: HUD Sextant VEH3000 and navigation system Totem INS/GPS
 * The radar of the aircraft, Ibris phased array radar, is jointly developed by DRDO and Russia.

''Without these equipments and gadgets, a fighter aircraft is nothing but a sitting duck. Therefore, to say that Su-30 MKI is joint collaboration between India and Russia with Israeli help is more accurate. Thanks --Incman|वार्ता 18:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)''

''Well.. on second thoughts, "Under licensed production from Russia" seems fair enough. I have no problem with the current version. --Incman|वार्ता 18:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)''

Your study of Israel's contribution is a perfect example of this. However, if you think carefully, Israel's contribution is a system which may have been acquired from elsewhere (in theory). Same goes for India. Now I'm am quite sure that the systems developed by India, Israel and France are state-of-the-art products. But by definitation, an aircraft which has systems from various parties at the request of a specific end user cannot be called a joint-development. Its more like "sub-contracting", to meet the needs of the end user, the Indian Air Force. Sukhoi is the party making all the money out of this and it will distribute revenue and profit to all the external partners accordingly, and also, it holds the right to sell this variant to other parties. Your statement above sort of stands as a more efficient version of the point I'm trying to make. Many thanks -- Ash sul 19:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. Your explanation was quite thorough and clear. Ironically, this also establishes the fact I have been trying to point out - Su-30MKI is a variant of a well established aircraft, not a joint-development project.

''No. Sukhoi cannot add all of the concerned Indian, French and Israeli gadgets to any other aircraft without their permission. As a matter of fact, the equipments are added to the aircraft by HAL and not by Sukhoi. The MK, MKM and the MKK versions, the Su-35 and the Su-37 do not feature these gadgets. That's why there were reports that Sukhoi had approached DRDO and HAL to add the Indian avionics to the MKM version. Thanks --Incman|वार्ता 01:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)''

 "A master product being customised (for the better) to produce a variant to meet the end users need. So it is only logical that although the master product manufacturer is by definition - the owner of the new variant product, it would still require the consent of the owner of the systems that have been used to create this updated variant. But the owner of the master product has the right to replace the vendor(s) of the upgrade systems with new contractor(s), should the current (upgrade system) vendor(s) refuse the export of their particular product, fully using the product knowledge acquired from the project. The master product owner will own the full right to knowledge base of the system. However, the same cannot be said for the upgrade vendor(s)when it comes to the sale of the end-product to parties outside the sphere of this project!" Its only common sense. Many thanks for this discussion. It was quite interesting to hear your point of view on this matter. Cheers. -- Ash sul 15:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstood my response. I don't disagree with you on that particular point at all. Please try to look at this through the window of simple logic:

Source code for PD-IndiaGov
Hello Deepak, I cannot locate the template PD-IndiaGov, do you have the source code of the template? Legaleagle86 04:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks LegalEagle 15:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:CoastGuardRescue.JPG
An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:CoastGuardRescue.JPG, has been listed at Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page for more information if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 14:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

re
Hey, you should mail me before hand when you come to UIUC ... it'll be great if I could meet you. I was in UIUC after the 18th January. The UIUC campus is quit big, but land isn't a problem in Illinois :). Our campus is always Under Construction (You get the joke, right? UIUC). But we have some impressive buildings, like the Siebel center for computer science. I might go to Purdue some time (have some friends there, also there is a workshop in April).

The courses aren't that hard, but may differ department to department. Of course, I have no idea about undergrad courses. The grad courses are standard, though some at the CS dept are notorious for their difficulty levels.

LOL, the sherwani looks similar? I left it in Dhaka :(. We don't get to wear sherwanis in any occasion other than own weddings ...

Keep in touch ... --Ragib 22:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

PD-India-Gov
Hi,

I agree with you. I think that the template should be re-written from scratch, and that the misinformation provided by the template is basically responsible for the dozens of copyright violations. I intend to re-write the template once the images mis-using it are deleted to avoid confusion regarding the status of the current images. Regards, — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 06:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Greetings
Happy Holi !!--Dwaipayan (talk)

Bridge
There is already a link to bascule bridge under the Index to types of bridges section; I didn't think it added much by adding another and certainly not under the "By Use" section, since bascule has nothing to do with type of use. I do think that part of the article could do with improving though, if you have ideas it's probably worth discussing them on the Bridge talk page first. -- Kvetner 23:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

India Dem
Because of India's rich diversity, no one image can represent all of India's one billion people. That is why I propose selecting a new demographics image every three months. This would allow for a regional balance and would show India as a whole. Many people have agreed that this is the only way to represent India's rich and varied diversity. Since you have voted for a change in the demographics section, I wanted to update you on this proposal. I would love to hear your comments on talk:India. Thanks so much. Have a great day!

-Coollemonade 00:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Just saw your edit to National Stock Exchange of India, and stopped by to say a hello. --Bhadani 18:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am really fine. Let us remain in touch. --Bhadani 18:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

India-Israel relations
Since you had contributed to this article earlier, perhaps you can respond to issues raised by a user who is trying to paint Indians as Jew haters. Triedsolve 16:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't intent at all to display Indians as Jew haters, I'm just questionning the global validity of that article and its partisan references. At least some of my remarks were true since 2 references have been deleted since. I have many other contestations. Also, another question: according to you, for what reason user Triedsolve does not seem to be able to answer directly ?TwoHorned 15:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Far East
Most generally it does, yes, but it's imprecise. I take your point, but we need some terminology to emphasise that there are multiple definitions of "Eastern world", which is why I added the other map. The image is acually a representation of the "Dharmic" zone, but that term is used in another image. Do you have a suggestion? Paul B 10:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess therre might be some sources that include India, but I think you are right about the most common usage. We could change it to "India and the Far East", or "South Asia and the Far East". Paul B 10:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've changed it to India and the Far East. The map excludes Pakistan, but includes some mostly Islamic countries, such as Bangladesh, so it's ambiguous as it stands. Paul B 10:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)