User talk:Dell nole

Deletion discussion about Asif's equation and Einstien's theory of special relativity
Hello, Dell nole,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Asif's equation and Einstien's theory of special relativity should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Asif's equation and Einstien's theory of special relativity.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Benboy00 (talk) 09:51, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Asif's equation and Einstien's theory of special relativity
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If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at [ this temporary page]. Leave a note at Talk:Asif's equation and Einstien's theory of special relativity saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Benboy00 (talk) 09:51, 30 December 2013 (UTC) Dear Sir, I want to inform you that I am the actual author of this research paper that has been published by IOSR, I have copyright agreement form of IOSR and I have their e-mails when my research paper was published. I want to upload it on Wikipedia, Now what should I do since I am the actual author and how I transfer my copyrights to Wikipedia? Dell nole (talk) 10:01, 30 December 2013 (UTC) Dear sir. I uploaded my article"Asif's equation and Einstien's theory of special relativity" which is based on my published research paper named as " Asif's equation of charge variation and special relativity" by International organization of scientific research (IOSR) at this link. http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jap/pages/v4i3.html

I have created an article with the name "Asif's equation and Einstien's theory of special relativity" on wikipeidia, but my article has been deleted due to copyright problem. I hereby want to transfer my copyrights to Wikipedia under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA), version 3.0". so that my article can be uploaded on Wikipedia. I have also sent an e-mail to permissions-en@wikimedia.org containing the copyright agreement form of IOSR for your verification when my research paper was published. I have also sent the copy of my paper when it was publihed in IOSR.

I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks Dell nole (talk) 10:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Your paper
Hi, It seems that you have tried multiple times to copy your paper to wikipedia, and it has been deleted and the accounts blocked. The reason for this is copyright, but the wider issue is a misunderstanding of what wikipedia is for. Wikipedia is not a repository of research papers. Wikipedia is a collection of articles on notable subjects. Even if a wikipedia article was written about your paper (instead of being a copy of it), it still wouldnt be accpetable as an article, because your paper is not notable. I'm not saying that its a bad paper, or making any other judgements about the paper itself. What I'm saying is that there are no other people (reliable sources) who talk about it. Realistically, this isnt something you can change. Having an equation named after you is probably a great honour, but the equation itself does not appear to be notable. This does not mean you should give up on anything, except trying to include the paper in this encyclopedia, at least until your paper gets more traction. To keep doing so is a waste of your time (and our time), and is likely to make you unhappy. The wikipedia project does not want this specific article, but it does want your help with other things. Why not try editing some other articles and getting involved? If you are interested, I can give you some helpful links. Thanks, Benboy00 (talk) 10:39, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear I got you point, I am researcher and since it is my new research work and people, researchers and students will read it more easily if you upload it on Wikipedia, then it would get reliable sources as people will read it. I have a lot of my published research paper which publishes every 3,4 months, I am trying to put them on Wikipedia so that my research work should be easily visible and available to every one. and even I am ready to transfer my copyrights to Wikipedia, but none of you is considering my work even I am not violating any rule.I really need your kind help to upload my article on Wikipedia Dell nole (talk) 10:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Again, the problem at heart is not rule violation, it is lack of notability. The cause and effect that you want is not the cause and effect that wikipedia wants. Your work has to be notable before it goes onto wikipedia, not after. Your work is easily visible and available to everyone. Searching Asif's equation gives the paper in full, hosted by the IOSR. If you want, you can but some server space and host your own copy of your paper. Wikipedia, however, does not want to host your paper, simply because it is not what wikipedia is for. I cannot help you upload your article onto wikipedia because I think it doesn't belong on wikipedia. I suspect that you wont find any experienced editors to help you do this because they will be experienced enough to know that it is not suitable for inclusion. There is no amount of help that can get this onto wikipedia. You do not need wikipedia in order for you to make these papers available. They are already available. maybe reading WP:SOAP will help. Benboy00 (talk) 11:22, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear I know Wikipedia is not place to publish original research work. Since my work is already published with authentic references. I think problem in my article is due to "History" section that I have provided with my bio-data. If you want to remove History section in my article, then do so but please do not remove my full article from Wikipedia. My research papers is also available in Hard copy of journals and books. people read it. It is some how notable, if it wouldn't be notable, then it wouldn't be published. Kindly upload my paper so that I can work on it, and I also Herby warrant to transfer copyrights of my paper. Thanks Dell nole (talk) 11:44, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * And my paper is peer reviewed by experts and editors of IOSR journal, it is not something fake or any plagiarism. I have read WP:SOAP and there is written that Wikipedia only contains those papers which are peer reviewed by editors of Journals, after publication of that paper, you can make an Wikipedia article on that. And you have put copyright problem on the top of my paper since I my self transferring my copy rights under your desired license. Now you are saying that copyright is not problem, problem is notability. Dell nole (talk) 11:58, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

What I said was: "The reason for this [the speedy deletions] is copyright, but the wider issue is a misunderstanding of what wikipedia is for." Its the wider issue thing I'm talking about. The rest of the part you are talking about reads: "Wikipedia can report your work after it is published and becomes part of accepted knowledge; however, citations of such reliable sources are needed to demonstrate that material is verifiable, and not merely the editor's opinion." This has not yet happened for your work. Benboy00 (talk) 12:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Sir, if you upload my article then I will work on it, I have external links also where you can find my paper which is discussed in different countries, I want to put external links and general references and many more things. I can do all of these when you will let my paper uploaded om Wikipedia, I was doing editing and putting reliable sources, links, references and from my behind you deleted my paper. Dear it wouldn't be so as you did, I respect Wikipedia's policies, kindly first try to understand my problemDell nole (talk) 12:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I have not deleted your paper, and I cannot remove that notice. That notice must be removed by an administrator, copyright clerk or OTRS agent. If you do have reliable sources, I would be happy to withdraw the deletion discussion that is ongoing. Could you post the sources here? Benboy00 (talk) 12:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes of course dear, here are some links where my paper is discussed. https://plus.google.com/103853099989715601774/posts/NaZBHLJvioG And here is an other link of my 2nd research paper which is based on my current research paper and it is published by the foundation of computer science, New York USA. Where I first registered my paper under their license. This Journal has registered Impact factor, ISSN and ISBN. here is the link. http://www.ijcaonline.org/archives/volume84/number16/14658-2551Dell nole (talk) 12:35, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

...Ok. The first link is a Google+ post (with 2 comments, one from you and one from the poster). How on earth does that fall under the wikipedia definition of a reliable source? Please try WP:RELY. The other one is just a link to another paper. I think now is the time to just stop. I've tried to be helpful and explain it, but this is just becoming a huge waste of my time. You plainly want to have your name in an equation on wikipedia. You want to use wikipedia as a soapbox, so that other people will notice your paper and then (you hope) reliable sources will start to reference it. First of all, this will not happen. Second of all, that is not allowed. If you can give me 2 reliable sources that mention this specific paper, then I will help you as much as I can. Otherwise, this whole endeavour is a complete waste of time, both mine and yours. If you can't give me two reliable sources, then I am quitting this discussion. I shall leave it to more patient people than I. Let me try to impress upon you what reliable sources means. It means newspapers, tv shows, documentaries, and well known books. Has your paper been mentioned in any of these? Benboy00 (talk) 12:50, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear let me clear you one thing that I don't need any kind of publicity that people call me scientist. I said that if you want to remove history section in my article, then remove it. I am just theoretical researcher in Modern Physics, if you don't want to upload my paper then I will not be dis-appointed. There are many articles on Wikipedia which contains no any references at all and they are clearily available on Wikipedia. but you are not ready to upload my paper even my paper is published and has historical value also because it modifies some basic pillars of physics. Thanks for kind response. I will never come again on WikipediaDell nole (talk) 13:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear here is link of one of the article on Wikipedia which doesn't have any reference and source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_invariance but this has tag of "un sourced material" since sources are not clear. Can't you put such type of tag on the top of my article until my paper got sources ? Dell nole (talk)

For one thing, that article didnt give an equation and then name it after the author. Furthermore, that article may be appropriate for wikipedia, or it may not be. Whether it is or isn't, that has no bearing on the appropriateness of this article (WP:OTHERSTUFF). You are free to start a deletion discussion about that article if you think it should be deleted. Benboy00 (talk) 14:54, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear the problem with my article is not that equation is named with author's name, I didn't put this name as Asif's equation, but the organization of my university put this name when I was presenting my research paper in conference. They named it as asif's equation, if you think that name of the equation is big issue, then you can surely delet this name or You can simply say "equation of charge variation". But the actual problem that I think is the problem of copyrights. I have found one thing on Wikipedia, here is link.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries Since I myself retain all copyrights being author, I want to transfer that rights, I need help for that how can I transfer? Since tag that has been put on top of my article is of copyright problem. Kindly resolve my problem, its my humble request dear.Dell nole (talk) 15:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Dear I want to use the material given in my research paper in the form of Wikipedia article with License. I am asking for how can I transfer that copyrights so that Wikipedia can use the material given in my paper? Dell nole (talk) 15:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to make this any more clear: There is no point in transferring the copyrights. The reason for this is that even if the copyright were not a problem, the content of this article is not suitable for wikipedia. I have tried to show this in several different ways, but you still dont seem to get it. I have no experience whatsoever about transferring copyrights. I assume you followed the steps on the big notice, so presumably now you just have to wait for a reply from the wikimedia/wikipedia copyrights people. Benboy00 (talk) 16:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Reply to help me request
I assume that the help me request was placed here to try to save the page in question. Using the help me template is not the correct way to get help with this sort of problem. You should follow the instructions in the deletion template that was placed on the page. Also, some other articles you may want to read:


 * WP:No original research
 * WP:NOT PAPERS (especially #7 there)
 * WP:FORUM

I hope this helps you. —    Bill W.     (Talk)  (Contrib)  — 15:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC) Dear I want to use the material given in my research paper in the form of Wikipedia article with License. I am asking for how can I transfer that copyrights so that Wikipedia can use the material given in my paper? Dell nole (talk) 16:03, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

On operating multiple accounts
Please note WP:SOCK. I am also placing this note at User talk:Laghari asif. AllyD (talk) 18:22, 30 December 2013 (UTC)