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Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).

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 * Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. The RfC has been posted at Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community.
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Perry High School
2602:306:CF9F:F2F9:4D3F:3B8B:14D0:69EE (talk) 14:41, 6 July 2020 (UTC) Please add coordinates to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_High_School_(Oklahoma)
 * ✅. Deor (talk) 17:09, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Yale High School
Smallboy944 (talk) 09:34, 12 July 2020 (UTC) Please add coordinates to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_High_School
 * ✅. I would (probably) have have done this next month, in any event, since The Anomebot2 tags articles missing coordinates each month and I usually follow the bot around, picking off the easy ones. Deor (talk) 14:43, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020). Administrator changes
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 * There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
 * Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
 * Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
 * There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020). Administrator changes
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 * A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:56, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Americas total population edit
Hi Dear. I'm sorry if this is not the right place to talk, but I couldn't find another way to reach out to you. The source I had added, the CIA Factbook, gives a total number for the population of North America and South America, so I summed them up and because it's a variable number that tends to get bigger, I used a > sign, to not make the number static. Is there a rule about citations being exact? Could I use the citation if I use the exact sum of both numbers?

Thanks! Gootle84 (talk) 01:37, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * When I clicked on the link you gave as a reference, it led to a "Population Distribution" page that gives no figures for the populations of any countries or continents. The only information it contains about North and South America is that they have about 8% and 6% of the world's population, respectively. (It's also worth noting that the Americas article currently contains at least four different figures for the total population of the Americas: 964,920,000 in the infobox, "over a billion" in the lead, 973,186,925 in the "Total" row of the table in the "Countries and territories" section, and "about 985 million" in the "Demography" section. I assume that the discrepancy is due to differences in sources or differences in times the figures were added.)


 * As for your questions, according to WP:CALC there's nothing wrong with simply adding figures for North and South America to arrive at a total for the Americas. You will, however, have to find a source that explicitly states such figures. Myself, I'd avoid the vagueness of ">1,000,000,000" and give the actual total reached by the addition, which is likely to be a rounded estimate in any event. Deor (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
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 * A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely 1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created.

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 * The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (T261630).

Arbitration
 * The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
 * Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Osborne Park (Willoughby, Ohio)
About 6 years ago you added some coordiates that put this part in the middle of the atlantic ocean. I've removed them but I don't know where it actually is.©Geni (talk) 07:29, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was clearly a copy/paste error on my part. (I copied the numerical value of the latitude in both the latitude and longitude fields of the template.) I've readded the coordinates correctly. Deor (talk) 16:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).

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 * Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection any article on a beauty pageant, or biography of a person known as a beauty pageant contestant, which has been edited by a sockpuppet account or logged-out sockpuppet, to be logged at WP:GS/PAGEANT.

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 * Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
 * Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
 * Sysops will be able to use Special:CreateLocalAccount to create a local account for a global user that is prevented from auto-creation locally (such as by a filter or range block). Administrators that are not sure if such a creation is appropriate should contact a checkuser.

Arbitration
 * The 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections process has begun. Eligible editors will be able to nominate themselves as candidates from November 8 through November 17. The voting period will run from November 23 through December 6.
 * The Anti-harassment RfC has concluded with a summary of the feedback provided.

Miscellaneous
 * A reminder that standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people. (American Politics 2 Arbitration case).

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for November 6
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Humberstone.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion of guidelines for short descriptions
There’s a new proposal to add dating recommendations to the guidelines for short descriptions. Short descriptions are a prominent part of the mobile user experience, but the discussion so far has had relatively few voices. Since you are a top contributor to one or more Manual of Style pages, I thought you might be interested. Cheers —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄  01:44, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2020). Administrator changes
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 * Voting for proposals in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey, which determines what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year, will take place from 8 December through 21 December. In particular, there are sections regarding administrators and anti-harassment.

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 7 December 2020 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:43, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

pronunciation "inferno"
would you please rethink your revert in the article: Inferno (Dante)? I have never heard that an italian would pronounce "inferno" like this. espescially guys coming from Florence(, where the purest italian is spoken,) would pronounce it with a very clear 'n'. for the sake of a correct lemma: please do your own research in the case you disagree with me...(note only note '5'...i read this note and i couldn't believe it) Joachim1970 (talk) 22:53, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

And secondly you should doubt note 5 concerning -nf-, -nv-, etc., find reliable sources and then remove it ;-) Joachim1970 (talk) 23:28, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

And yes: I read the discussion between peter238 and trovatore about that issue. peter238 introduced this "theory". reliable sources concerning an alleged assimilation of n->m haven't been given. because there aren't any. neither on the internet nor in the books... Joachim1970 (talk) 23:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I've found sources supporting the assimilation-issue. for example: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonante_nasale

Allora lasciamo perdere, vabbene? ;-) Joachim1970 (talk) 00:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The only reason I reverted you is that Help:IPA/Italian seems to represent current consensus on how Italian should be transcribed in IPA on Wikipedia. If you think that needs to be changed, you could try establishing a new consensus through discussion at Help talk:IPA/Italian. Deor (talk) 17:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Celestial spheres
Re, I know that commons:Category:Celestial spheres exists, but that seems to match Celestial sphere rather than Celestial spheres. The second seems to be specifically about the rotating cosmological spheres. Probably we need a new Commons category for it, what do you think? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that category seems to include images (and subcategories) relevant to both WP articles. I don't hang out at Commons much, so I don't know a lot about categorization there, but a splitting of that category seems logical. Deor (talk) 18:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, I've started commons:Category:Celestial spheres (cosmological model) and linked to it from the article, feel free to add more images to it if you want. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:16, 29 December 2020 (UTC)