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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).



Administrator changes
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 * Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.

Technical news
 * Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

Arbitration
 * Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:19, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Page protection Jeanne Cagney (same editor Ward Kimball)
Hello Deor. I have a WP:RPP. I noticed that you had an edit problem starting on 24 June 2023 concerning Ward Kimball and edits by 185.238.219.28 (.3, .29, .45, 49, .54, 78 .110. 124., etc.(IP address keeps hopping)).‎ This person has made unconstructive edits of other articles. Others and I have posted warnings on some of his talk pages. This person (apparently from Schlupfing, city of Landau a.d.Isar, Germany) appears to be editing purposefully WP:VAND or he may have some mental or communication problem related to his continual WP:DIS. In any event, there is a WP:VAND / WP:DIS / WP:WAR at Jeanne Cagney involving this person and me. He started his improper edits on 28 May 2023, and, after an absence for awhile, came back today. The repeated edits by this person make no sense. I even tried to edit to resolve for him the problem, but the person refuses to relent and there is no hope for WP:CON; therefore, specially since you have experience with this person before, please enter a WP:RPP at the Jeanne Cagney: Revision history. I would ask for blocks, but considering his IP hopping, I hope page protection will be sufficient. Thanks for your consideration, help, and service. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 00:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I've semiprotected the article for a month. If you notice this editor causing trouble elsewhere, or if the trouble recurs after the PP expires, drop me a note. I've actually never had occasion to apply a range block, but I'll ask another admin for help if one is called for. Deor (talk) 00:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for your super fast response and help. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 01:03, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * I've temporarily (I hope) lost access to my e-mail. Is your message something that you could post here? Or could you at least give me an idea about its subject, so that I could advise you about other people who you might contact? Deor (talk) 16:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Its about a revdel request, but i already contacted philknight. @Deor Notrealname1234 (talk) 16:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Heart of the West
Source was the scan of The Heart of the West published with copyright date 1904, as noted in the edit. However, I have asked a fellow editor whether he can corroborate the date on the publication, and it seems the chronology for O. Henry publications is thoroughly muddled. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw the Hathi Trust entry; but several booksellers who are offering the 1907 edition claim it to be the first ed., and as you say, the chronology of O. Henry publications is rather confused. (To say nothing of the fact that 1904 seems awfully early, since that's the same year as Cabbages and Kings, O. Henry's first book.) You also neglected to move the collection's entry to the corresponding chronological position among his works, and I was unwilling to just move it without further confirmation of the putative 1904 date. Deor (talk) 19:09, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * At this point, I'm unable to assert the 1904 with confidence. If it has any truth, my suspicion now is that it is a publication date for one or more of the individual stories in magazines, rather than for the publication of the volume as a collection. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

WP:ENGVAR
I have seen the edit summary you provided when reverting my recent edit at Gerund. Assuming that what you say about the use of commas in American English is correct, imposed American usage on an article not previously written with that usage, which I reverted. My understanding is that doing so is compliant with WP:ENGVAR, and I don’t see why you should repeat the imposition of American English. JBW (talk) 21:18, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I admit, I didn't look closely at the history of the article before reverting your edit. Nevertheless, if the lack of commas after "e.g." was the only indication of British usage in the article, I don't see that as establishing that the article's consistent usage was BrE and that adding them was an "imposition" of AmE. One would have to examine the article thoroughly for other American or British usages to determine what the overall national variety (if any) used in the article was—a task I'm certainly not willing to undertake just now. If you want to go in and eliminate the commas again, I won't revert you; but without more evidence, I don't think your statement that the article was "not previously written with that [i.e, American] usage" is necessarily correct. Deor (talk) 22:00, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have no knowledge as to whether practice in this varies in different national traditions, but I am willing to take your word for it. The version without commas seems much more natural to me, but I don't feel strongly enough one way or the other to pursue it further. I really just mentioned it because I thought it was a bit funny that your edit summary indicated that you had seen things the opposite way round to how I had seen them. 🤗 JBW (talk) 11:15, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Language ref. desk
Not sure why you deleted my comment when it was in preliminary form (before I was done editing it). AnonMoos (talk) 02:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A far as I can tell, I didn't delete your edit; I just deleted the extra vertical space above it. If I removed anything of yours, feel free to revert me. Deor (talk) 02:40, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


 * If you look at the edit history of the page, after I added 139 bytes on 02:27, 4 August 2023, you deleted 140 bytes on 02:28, 4 August 2023. No reply to this is needed. AnonMoos (talk) 03:00, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).



Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Firefangledfeathers
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AlisonW · Amberrock · Closedmouth · Scottywong

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Novem Linguae

Technical news
 * The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools.
 * Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist.

Arbitration
 * The arbitration cases named Scottywong and AlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
 * The SmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Pppery · Theleekycauldron
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Dwheeler · G.A.S · Royalbroil · Ssd



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
 * A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news
 * Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date.

Arbitration
 * The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks note
Thank you very much. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 13:03, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Message re Western Uttar Pradesh
Earlier information on this page was against a particular community, which is morally wrong. You are targeting a particular community by referring to a article which targets a particular community. I just want the right information on page.

Please stop spreading hate about a particular community. Piyush Chikara (talk) 17:19, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

O. Henry
No, I already looked under "Legacy". It's not there. I wasn't sure how to include it in the article, but since he died in Asheville, I thought that under his death was the best place.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  17:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I was confused by "The O. Henry Hotel in Greensboro is also named for Porter, as is US 29, which is O. Henry Boulevard", failing to distinguish between Greensboro and Asheville and between the avenue and the boulevard. I've readded your edit (rewording a bit) in the "Legacy" section, where I think it makes more sense, as that's where all the other stuff named in honor of Porter is mentioned. Deor (talk) 20:59, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The problem with where you added it, which is why I didn't do it there, is that the preceding information is unsourced and it looks like my source is the source for all the information. I can't recall whether I ever succeeded in finding sources for that other information so I'll mark it, but thanks.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:06, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).



Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg 0xDeadbeef
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Tamzin
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Interface administrator changes
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Technical news
 * The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
 * There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections.  is the reserve commissioner.
 * Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
 * Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
 * Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
 * Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
 * An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous
 * The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit at Lamorville
Just a good humoured minnow - you "tweaked" the location of Lamorville, France to Kazakhstan. Quelle horreur! :) Cordialement, Goldsztajn (talk) 02:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Touché! Someday, I'll eliminate all stupid typing errors (like "55" rather than just "5" for degrees of longitude) from my edits. And then I'll die. Deor (talk) 12:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

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Editor experience invitation
Hi Deor :) I'm looking to interview people here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 21:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

ParserFunction error
Hi Deon, I'm wondering about these edits summarized as "avoid ParserFunction error." Everything appeared to be in order, and the "birth based on age as of date" template is valid. Rift (talk) 02:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you look at the versions of the articles before my edits, you'll see a big red error message where the output of the birth based on age as of date template should appear. I was too lazy to track down exactly where the syntax of the template had gone awry (it may have been caused by this edit to the template), ao I just replaced the template with the relevant years. In any event, those were, I think, the only cases I've ever seen in which the ages, rather than just the birth years, of living persons were specified in the opening sentences of articles. Deor (talk) 11:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see now. An extra "}" inside the calculation template was rendering the error. I've restored the templates with fixes for each. Thanks.
 * (By the way, using that template for a two year birth date range in the lede is very, very common. Tens of thousands of pages, probably. It's used when a WP:RS states a person's age, but not birth date. I'm surprised you haven't seen it before!) Rift (talk) 18:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

Administrator changes
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 * Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.

Arbitration
 * Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
 * The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:53, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee,  141 Pr  {contribs} 06:55, 14 December 2023 (UTC)