User talk:Derek R Bullamore/Archive 12

Young Justice: LegacyTags
Hello. I've removed the Uncat tag which you placed on the Young Justice: Legacy article because I now have added some categories. Feel free to check them. KidXap (talk) 02:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. Yes, that's fine. Cheers, - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 11:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello again. I've also changed the style of the citations on the Young Justice: Legacy article and removed the tag. If this has not been done right, feel free to add the tag again. XapApp (talk) 12:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

John Taylor?
Hi Derek, a John Taylor has been added to the "Players earning international caps while at Hull Kingston Rovers" section of the Hull Kingston Rovers article, would you know whether a John Taylor did play for Hull KR, Great Britain, and Yorkshire? If so, what era did he play in? I don't believe anyone of that name played in a Test Match for Great Britain, but tourists to Australia & New Zealand are less well documented. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 08:09, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello Degsy, good to hear from you. There was a John Taylor who played for Hull KR between 1959 and 1965, and then 1967 and 1969.  He made 197 appearances, scoring 48 tries and one goal.  He became Rovers' first Australian 'tourist' in the 1961/2 season (when Colin Hutton was the national side's trainer/coach). I have no record as to whether he actually played for GB on that tour, nor indeed any appearances for Yorkshire.  Taylor was sold to Castleford for £6,000 in 1965, but re-signed to Hull KR in 1967.  Taylor moved on to York in 1969. From memory, his career was somewhat dogged by injury. (In fact, he believe he missed out on playing in the 1964 Challenge Cup Final against Widnes, due to injury).  Most of the information comes from my little book, now almost 30 years old, which is extensively cited as a source in Hull KR's Wiki article. I hope that helps a little.  Cheers, Derek R Bullamore (talk) 11:10, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I've created an article for John Taylor, please feel free to correct any errors or omissions. Best Regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well done - good article. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:31, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

A. Sandham
A. Sandham played for Wales while at Hull Kingston Rovers in the 5-31 defeat to England at The Watersheddings, Oldham on Saturday 20 January 1912, would you have any more details on this player? His forename would be a start! Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 15:03, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The only 'Sandham' I can find is W. Sandham. Almost certainly the same man though. He was second top try scorer for the Robins in both the 1910/11 and 1911/12 seasons, and played against Broughton Rangers on 11 October 2009.  In 1912/13, his 25 tries were a then club record for a forward. Link here to the A. Sandham name. I can not find a mention of him post World War I.  According to my trusty book, he played 183 games, scoring 87 tries (261 points) - pretty good for a hooker.  But no christian name... sorry.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:29, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I've created a William Sandham article; once again, please feel free to correct any errors or omissions. I found an interesting webpage about him being a "Probable" for the 1910 Great Britain Lions tour of Australia and New Zealand. Should the date of the match you mentioned above against Broughton Rangers be 11 October 1909, and was this William Sandham's début? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well done on the new article. The game was against Broughton Rangers on 11 October 1909, and our William was in a photograph taken before the match, which is in my book. He also appears in another photo for a match against St Helens, dated 2 September 1909 - which suggests the Broughton game was not his debut appearance.  However, Sandham does not appear in another photo, taken to commemorate Rovers match against the first touring Australian side in this country, dated 21 November 1908 (which Hull KR won 21-16).  Another picture, entitled "Hull Kingston Rovers N.U.F.C. 1912-13" also includes Sandham. I am wondering if he succumbed in World War I - my wife is trying to track this down - but a date of birth would be useful !


 * Interestingly, vaguely, is that I was at the match when Phil Lowe broke Sandham's try scoring record for a Hull KR forward - even that was a long time ago now ! Phil is now a publican at a hostelry about four miles away from me. It includes memorabilia from his playing days.  He's a lovely fella. Cheers,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:54, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Looking for someone born in Wales with a birth compatible with a circa-1910 playing era, then according to FreeBMD, the birth of a William Edward Sandham was registered during July→September 1884 in Holywell district, and the birth of a William Sandham was registered during July→September 1887 in Hay district... of course it could be neither of these chaps. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 08:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Is a Yorkshireman interested in learning more Scots?
Hi, I'm a Master Editor here as well. I've recently taken an interest in Scots WP. Years ago, I was present at a Burns Night where our haggis was Addressed, and I understood very little.

I am embarrassed to say how few active users Scots WP has, and how few are Scotsmen. (My family's originally from the Cotswolds and Brummagem.)

I have seen you repair some of my Linkrot tags here. (Thank you very much for that.)

I have recently introduced that tag to Scots WP, but do not have the manpower to do more than just tag.

Any interest in applying your technique to our shocking degree of rot?

The vast majority of Scots articles are translations from here, so a tagged article in Scots is likely to have (or have had) an untagged article here. (Killing two birds, as it were.)

I don't want to impose on your time, but if you are available at all we could certainly use a helping hand.

In Canada, Varlaam (talk) 15:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello Varlaam. I am sorry but I must decline.  The English version of Wikipedia keeps me more than busy, and since school - many years ago - I have been hopeless at languages.  Plus I am English, so I rather liked the original idea of Hadrian's Wall.  Goodness me, our cheeky neighbours will be muttering about independence next... what's that !?!


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, are you speaking of Hadrian's Waw, as Scots WP would have it?
 * The independence cheek does not sit well with me either; we have our absurd Quebeckers on this side of the Pond.
 * I don't fully understand how your Reflinks technique works but I suspect that very little knowledge of Scots is required.
 * Well, do continue with your good works on this side of the Waw. Problems there will still be on the savage other side if you ever feel like an adventure.
 * Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 03:11, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Hello Derek, just saying thank you for the alterations on the wiki article I have been creating/ editing. Thanks to your input, I have learnt more on how correctly lay out the wiki article and will keep this in mind for any articles I create in the future. Thanks again, keep up the good work. --LairdCharles (talk) 20:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC)LairdCharles


 * You're welcome, and thank you. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:48, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

how many / how long / who cares
Hello Derek R Bullamore, you said How many / how long / who cares ? You are right, who does care in the end? Thanks for your all your efforts.... ande, little me cares !!!  Hello Derek R Bullamore, Lotje has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Keep up the good work! Lotje (talk) 19:33, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Many thanks - your kind words are appreciated - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Valerie Masters
Ring any bells? Not a noticeably successful recording career, but interesting now as she was co-host on J. Savile's first TV appearances in 1960. Surprising that no-one seems to have sought her out yet, as it seems she's still alive. I feel a stub coming on. Any info you can give me? Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Ummm.... the name does ring a bell, but the information in your stub stirs no real memory for me. To be honest, I can not think of anything I might have, or access to, which would enhance what you already have unearthed.  I guess she was a Katie Boyle of the day, never quite reaching the relative heights of Marion Montgomery or Kathy Kirby.  Why does Doctor Who keep nagging at me ?? I am away in Cropton this weekend. Something may come to me, as I sink another 'Monkman's Slaughter'. Cheers... in more ways than one.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:31, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
Thank you for the barnstar. I think it would be better for those more familiar with the subject matter, and possibly the viewpoint of an independent administrator, to assess your dilemma. Unfortunately, I fulfil neither criteria. Regards,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Tag removal
Please explain You keep on removing Barelinks from Love (The Beatles album) (e.g. here) while there are still several bare URLs. Can you explain on the talk there why? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:45, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Is this still the case ? - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:50, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes Take a look at the references: at least eight of them are just [1] . —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:51, 10 November 2012 (UTC)


 * You guys are both too important around here to be working at cross purposes.
 * Varlaam (talk) 17:51, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Dennis Lotis
See it turn blue! But, this says born 1925, and this says 1928. Any ideas? Strange to realise that, in our lifetime, the world was once like this - watch and enjoy! Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:46, 18 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Well done. I must admit the name meant nothing to me.  The Pathe News film was a real treat though - I always wanted one of those train sets.  Had to make do with Minic !  Cheers,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:11, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I must be much older than you then. I remember his name well from the Light Programme in the fifties and sixties.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:09, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I was not going to say anything, but.... We could not afford the Light Programme - I had to make do with the Heavy one.  I do remember Muffin the Mule - nearly got arrested twice.  Incidentally, since we are going down memory lane, I notice that Muffin's article is not referenced.  After my experiences, maybe I'll leave that to you !


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:15, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Changing the subject, I've just noticed, and reverted, an old unreferenced edit about the birth name of Emile Ford, which was the subject of some edit warring a couple of years ago. Do you have any more info on that? Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:25, 18 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, 16 October 1937 is what I've got. I'd forgotten about the edit war over this fact.  Probably so too have those involved - we will see.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:52, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's more a question of his name, rather than date of birth, though. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:52, 18 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Well done on Ford's talk page - I've been slow out of the blocks on that one. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:19, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about this
My finger managed to slip while looking at my watchlist, and I managed to revert your edits to your userpage. I've now reverted myself. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 20:45, 18 November 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem - there are worse things you can slip than your finger ! Thanks for the message - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:57, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Broken link on Distributed Antenna System article
Hi Derek: Sorry to bother you. I tried to go and edit or delete the 2nd reference link on the bottom of the Distributed Antenna System article since it is not working, but I couldn't get to it. Could you please tell me how to do it? Thanks, Matt --Matthewdsharp (talk) 07:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewdsharp (talk • contribs) 07:09, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello. I am not sure why your edit did not work.  Did you attempt to delete it from the 'references' section, rather than from within the body of the main article ?  I can only suggest you have another go and see what happens.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 10:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Reflinks
Hi. I became aware of the Reflinks tool when you used it on a page I'd recently marked for linkrot. So I tried it on The Village Market and only got the deadlinks marked. I see you reapplied it to the same article and got all the bare urls fixed, too. I must have not used it properly. Rest assured I will try it again some time: this seems like a very valuable tool. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:22, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello. Yes, it is a useful and fairly simple tool.  Sometimes it does need manual intervention to help it along (I am primarily thinking of PDF files, which it does not seem to like). Do persevere - the bare URLs need all the help they can get ! Regards,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Simple tool, yes, but then use it correctly please! This edit is not really useful: you didn't followed the Use mdy dates nor did you include the correct titles as in the last reference, nor dates, authors any other information. This is a mostly useless edit in my eyes. mabdul 14:32, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Terribly sorry that the Reflinks device did not produce the result you desired. I suggest you go and correct it, rather than wasting your time berating me.  Mostly a useless post in my eyes.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:52, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Huch? You are responsible for your edits! I will cleanup the references later... I'm writing a new one and thus digging out many old references which are useful for other articles, but such edits like the one you did, doesn't help anyone. If you are to lazy to collect some extra information of the website and building a high quality encyclopedia and just playing a WP:MMORPG to gain more edits and rights, then you are simply at the wrong place! mabdul 15:00, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Equally, you are responsible for your posts. Tell how how an editor of almost seven years standing and nearly 70,000 edits (approximately 15,000+ of which were made via Reflinks), is too lazy and feels the need to up his editing count ? Maybe you are at the wrong place - my talk page.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:19, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * If 15k of your reflinks edits are similar to this one, then you should stop using reflinks. Being active at Wikipedia for a long time and/or having a high edit count doesn't have anything to do with quality. The example diff above does only show how reflinks shouldn't be used. See these talk as constructive criticism and change your edit behavior. I have seen that you have the autoreviewer right and collected many DYKs, so that I'm even more confused that you do (again: in my opinion) such bad and useless edits with reflinks. I don't want to beat anybody, but I do want build a good encyclopedia. (and I do believe you too!) mabdul 15:38, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps you would like to fix Boise State University, since my attempt to fix the refs there was reverted. Maybe you'll have better luck. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 17:32, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Nice try, but from the editing history and article's talk page, its looks like you are trying to lead me into a bear trap. I'll decline, if it is all the same to you.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 17:42, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, thanks and great work

 * As I expected, thanks dear, thanks, thanks a lot of thanks, great work that you are doing for wikipedia and its articles. Justice007 (talk) 19:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:09, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Reflinks
Hi, thank you for using reflinks on Mk 19 grenade launcher, however, it's even better to take the extra time to clean up the text it provides, which can sometimes be overly wordy. ( Hohum @ ) 20:41, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Reflinks use
Hi! Please be more careful when fixing references and using Reflinks, such are here here, here or here. I don't know if you are finished with the recently edited Star Wars Galaxies, but I see quite a few errors. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:03, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you could be a bit more specific regarding Star Wars Galaxies because, to my eyes, it appears to be OK. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * These would be most of the major ones (and some other). — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=526059549&oldid=526058681 another revert] after a problematic edit. mabdul 20:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, if you had given me a little time, I was moving the article towards a more consistent referencing style, and a 'non-bare URL' situation. Anyhow, you've had another moan, so you will no doubt feel better for that.  I expect you to carry on and remove the {bare-url} tag on that article, as you are obviously an expert.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * in use? mabdul 07:32, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, Derek. I have recently seen multiple instances of objectionable uses of Reflink by you, starting from Lync article. Remember, Reflink is just a tool and its output is not guaranteed to be perfect. In fact, it is quite to opposite: its generation of example.com code is abysmal and its inability to properly handle HTTP redirection is a pain in the – you know where. You or anyone else using it must manually check each of the outputs, add proper work and publisher, and make sure it continues to support its associate paragraph or sentence. Sometimes, it is better to dismiss Reflinks suggestions and go with a dead link tag, so that an editor who has enough time can see if he can revive the dead link.


 * To make the long argument short: Be careful. And when you think you are too careful, be more careful. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 01:01, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

DePaul University
Hi, Derek - Thanks for cleaning up some of the dead links on the DePaul University entry. I have live links for two of the citations if you want to insert them. I work at DePaul so it's inappropriate for me to do it myself.

Page:

Phrase: DePaul's president, Rev. Dennis Holtschneider, denies that the outside pressure affected the university's position, saying "This attention was unwelcome and inappropriate and had no impact on either the process or the outcome of this case."[4]

On September 5, 2007, Finkelstein resigned after he and the university reached a settlement; they released a joint statement.[8] Kris (talk) 19:09, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I am assuming good faith here and have effected the alterations. I hope this is what is required.  Thanks,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I am pleased
... that you allowed things to accumulate a little.

You are often so vigilant it is hard to appreciate your impact.

It's a good reminder for us. Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 17:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Misapplying template and other stuff
I saw you applied a to User talk:81.178.142.231 for changing genres Status Quo (band) and called the editor a hoary old chestnut. There are many things wrong with that action: *You imply that the ip is a sock yet you don't tag it as such *Calling someone a hoary old chestnut really appears to be a personal attack I think you should know better. Toddst1 (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That wasn't WP:VANDALISM.  may have been appropriate.
 * You edit warred with the ip.


 * I think there are things wrong with your action. Firstly, I did not call the editor an "hoary old chestnut" - I was merely referring to the  regular mis-editing of the Status Quo article as being such.  If you care to look back over the edit history and talk page of the band, going back  years, you will see that this 'boogie woogie rock' is not something new - a veritable old chestnut.  Secondly, I did not imply that the IP was a sock.  You did.  Thirdly, reverting someone's edit is hardly engaging in an edit war.


 * I do know better. Here we have a seemingly inexperienced editor behaving in a manner that suggests otherwise.  He has engaged in edit warring, not just on this article, but also posted inappropriately (I will use that term - since you seem to dislike the terminology vandalism) on Rotherham United F.C..  I suggest you go harangue that editor, rather than falsely accusing me. And other stuff.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:56, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The admin appears to be unaware of the meanings of hoary and old chestnut. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I stand corrected. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 19:24, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * We collectively spend far too much time bickering with the people who do the actual work around here. The number of those people is falling, remember?
 * Our problem is admins who do an inadequate job of skewering nuisances and roasting them over slow fires. Admins delight in taking exception to the productive editors, while allowing ne'er-do-wells to run hither and thither unperturbed.
 * I am tired of seeing a dozen "Final Warnings" on 100% vandalism accounts.
 * All of our senior editors should be assigned blocking privileges.
 * And senior editors should be given the benefit of the doubt rather than constantly second-guessed by admins who are no more experienced than they are.
 * Varlaam (talk) 20:20, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, could you please help by formatting the refs on Awa Santesson-Sey. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Assuming good faith here, and noting that the entry is currently AfD, I have effected the reference improvements. However, I am curious as to why you could not have utilised Reflinks ?


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:51, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Tereza Fajksová when you got the time. Appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:26, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Yohio. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, he is the favourite to win Melodifestivalen and representing Sweden at Eurovision. He is a boy that dresses like a girl but he is no dragqueen he is a visual kei singer, and he is particularly popular in Japan. ;)--BabbaQ (talk) 00:08, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I am somewhat closer to the sheer nonsense of it all, when you mention the Eurovision Song Contest. However, I am rather puzzled how those in Sweden think that resembling "Japanese musicians, characterized by the use of make-up, elaborate hair styles and flamboyant costumes, often, but not always, coupled with androgynous aesthetics", will find favour with the Eurovision audience. Particularly bearing in mind the Oriental connection - not an obvious choice for a vote winner in European circles. I suppose it is vaguely similar to Dana International. We British think Eurovision is a strange joke at the best of times, but if he prevails what do we know. Presumably the song - which I think the contest is meant to be about - is equally bizarre ?

I can not believe that Swedish make-up, elaborate hair styles and flamboyant costumes could ever triumph at Eurovision !

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:31, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The strange thing is that his performance and song Heartbreak Hotel is a quite normal and just plain average. Just that he dresses strange and have a girlish look. His song is already tipped to do great at Eurovision if it is voted as the winner of Melodifestivalen. I am 50/50 of this singer chances I am not a huge fan as of right now but who knows perhaps Europe would love Yohio. --BabbaQ (talk) 21:30, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Brandur Enni and Cascada articles when you got some time :) thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:30, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ and ✅. The UK might retaliate with Pete Burns or, following the Hump's appearance in 2012, enter Vera Lynn. My apologies for the typically British black humour.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha, yes Vera Lynn could give those old grannies from Russia at ESC 2012 a run for their money when it comes to looking like extras from the series Living Dead.. :) --BabbaQ (talk) 23:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The UK seems slow on their Eurovision act for 2013.. Perhaps Pete Burns is interested after all. Could you take a look at the Abeba Aregawi article. Refs overall seems a bit messy. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:15, 1 March 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Tonight is the final let's see if Yohio wins. :) Take a look at Heartbreak Hotel (Yohio song). Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:49, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ - If Yohio wins it may give Bonnie Tyler, who just pipped Vera Lynn for the gig, a sporting chance. LOL. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:00, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL. Here is his song and performance.. let me know what you think :) .--BabbaQ (talk) 13:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Holy crap. Kiss meets Sweet on a very bad night. Typical Eurovision fodder - absolute shite, as we say in Yorkshire. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:38, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Singer Robin Stjernberg with the song You won tonight. :) check both articles out.. thank you. --BabbaQ (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ and ✅. Yohio fails after all. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, he won the national televoting but lost in the international jury votes only coming 9th there. Second overall. I think Robin will be a epic fail at Eurovision.. however.. he might just beat Bonnie Tyler :)--BabbaQ (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the Knutby murder and Obidkhon Sobitkhony article. Thank you. :)--BabbaQ (talk) 13:01, 16 March 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ and ✅ - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Yityish Titi Aynaw and Adelén. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 17:49, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ (but not by me) and ✅. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 18:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * When you got the time check out Kenza Zouiten Tiffany Cole and Anders Breivik. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅, ✅ and ✅. I should charge commission ! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:16, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Oren Wilkes biography
Hi Derek,

Was wondering if you can help give me some ideas on how I can edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oren_Wilkes page so that we can remove the tags at top. Thanks man I appreciate any feedback!

RobRobert Josepha (talk) 00:15, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello Rob. I think my best advice would be to suggest you click on the blue coloured text in the tags at the top of the page.  You will find further explanation as what comprise 'primary sources'; how to spot and use 'reliable sources' and, indeed, those that are not reliable; and criteria  regarding whether living people are 'notable'.  I would hope these editing guidelines give you a better direction as to what is required from a Wikipedia editor.  Happy editing,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

The 2i's Coffee Bar
Various names of dubious notability have been added to that article in the past - Freddy Lloyd, Russ Sainty, Jay Chance, Dene Lincoln. Mean anything to you? Anyway, Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:17, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Nope - probably more no-hopers trying to get a belated slice of 'fame'. In the spirit of the season, delete them forthwith says I.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:10, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Yellowman
Derek, this edit removed titles, publications and dates from a few references, leaving bare URLs. Not sure you intended to do that. --Michig (talk) 13:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello. Sorry; you caught me in the middle of a small series of edits trying to improve the referencing on this article.  It should look far better now.  Cheers,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:01, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine. There was one bare URL deadlink left which I have replaced with an archived version of the article. --Michig (talk) 14:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

George York and James Latham
I don't understand why you marked three perfectly valid links as not working in your edits here and here. Even though you marked them as dead, the links are still working. As I said, I don't understand. I've reverted the article back to an edition before these and one other edit made by another user....William 18:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Mmmm... it was a few weeks ago now, and to tell the truth I do not remember the exact circumstances. Perhaps my computer was playing up at the time; although I have known links to articles become inactive at times and spring back to life later.  Probably it was my mistake.  Either way, you have done the right thing.  Sorry,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:26, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Wee Willie Walker
Mean anything to you? I've been listening to some of his 60s records - excellent! More info here, here, and here - not much though. Over to you, or leave it to me? Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:20, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Nope - I vaguely remember Wee Willie Winkie though !?! It's entirely up to you; you seem to have made a good start as it were, and I do not have anything to add without trawling around on t'internet. Notability slightly worries me - did he have any chart hits ? Your call, either way.  Cheers,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:34, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Have another Wee Willie - unrelated! This one also sounds great, if you can find any of his stuff to listen to. Great story too. Can you add anything from your multiplicitous sources? Feel free to tweak it if you like! Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I could not find anything else. You've done well to unearth what you did.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Richard Manitoba / Caribou
Hi D, Glad to see you are going strong. I'm recruiting for extra comments on a content dispute at Richard Manitoba. Apparently there was some flare up over use of the name Manitoba some years back, and the aggrieved party has been repeatedly and persistently inserting snarky copy into the Handsome Dick article. Since he has also done press interviews, he has refs. If you could assist on consensus, much appreciated. Wwwhatsup (talk) 13:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello, Doc. Good to hear from you.  I have posted my piece although, as if to prove my neutral position, I've never heard of either party !  Cheers,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:33, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Ken Howard (composer)
I do not know if you still have a passing interest in this article, but I have added various references, mainly regarding Howard's pop music involvement. I noted your comment on the article's talk page, but thought it more prudent to post a reply (of sorts) here. The user you identified has not made any edit since May last year. Any thoughts ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:21, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi! I stopped watching the page a while back because I thought maybe I was becoming too caught up & reverty. It's looking great now, thanks to your good work.
 * Doctorhawkes (talk) 23:37, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response. If you are still interested, I also notice that his musical partner, Alan Blaikley's article also seems to have been edited copiously by 'a source close to' the subject matter.  Actually, to be perfectly honest, I do not see either as being particularly promotional.  I'll have a similar stab at Blaikley's article, adding references and so forth (somewhat easier now, given the amount of common ground).  I am on thin ground regarding their subsequent work, but they wrote great, catchy pop songs back in the day, which I am sadly old enough to remember.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi again
Hi, if you could help me with the Murder of Gerd Johansson refs and Olle Möller refs I would appreciate it. Im no good at making refs and combine several into one basically. :) Thanks again!--BabbaQ (talk) 14:40, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Similar issue on Schenecker double homicide. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:27, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Similar issue on Sanna Jinnedal. Thanks again!--BabbaQ (talk) 11:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I know Derek is away for a couple of weeks, so you will either need to wait until he returns, or ask someone else. Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you for letting me know. Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:50, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back!
I see that User:Chrismariejones1 has an email address enabled. I think one of us should contact her to explain that we need reliable sources. What do you think? Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:45, 31 January 2013 (UTC)  PS: Have a good time? Sadly, you missed most of the snow.....
 * PS: Alternatively, it seems likely that this site is probably a reliable source. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * PPS: See also this: "Emile's Wikipedia page is completely wrong. Emile's mother married again so Dave and George Sweetnam are Emile's half brothers...."   Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:03, 31 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm back, but having not slept for a day and a half, and with the travelling over six time zones, I'm somewhat jet lagged ! Funnily enough, whilst I was away, I received an e-mail from one 'Christine Jones' about Emile Ford.  I replied a few hours ago, with the usual suggestions about following Wikipedia editing guidelines.  Assuming it is the same person - in my frazzled state I did not fully connect the two events - then I do not appear to have had the desired result.  Perhaps you would be so kind as to contact her via e-mail.  I am not sure that the first website contains more than a fansite type article - but I could be wrong.  It also seems very strange to me that it has taken all this time for 'new information' to emerge about someone, who has been out of the public eye for half a century.  I'm not saying it's wrong.... just, odd.


 * A pretty good time in Mexico thanks, although the weather was somewhat disappointing. Frankly though, I really did not miss the snow !  Cheers,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've changed Emile Ford around - what do you think? Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:50, 31 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, it looks fine to me. I've added a reference too.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:19, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ¡Muchas gracias señor!  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Shadow Morton
Sad news. He produced the first album I ever bought with my own money - in the days when I used to pore over record covers and wondered who these strange people were. And of course he introduced The Shangri-Las to the world - which to my mind gives him an honoured place in the highest echelons of rock'n'roll heaven... Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:51, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah - more depressing news, and the hat trick that I predicted (not really, these things always happen in threes) just a couple days ago. You must have  finally been persuaded to part with your cash because, according to the contemporary Allmusic review of the album, "most of the tracks share a common structure of a disjointed warm-up jam."  Exactly what rock is supposed to be all about, at least in my book.  Did I mention that I 'performed' on stage to "Leader of the Pack" astride a Harley-Davidson ?  You can tell I've really lived.


 * To talk some sense, poor old Shadow's article could do with a further clean-up and some references. Ever heard that before ?


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:10, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * At least it's better than his Allmusic article! Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:15, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Allmusic has an awful habit of veering between balanced, informed and neutral point of view articles (such as those generally written by Stephen Thomas Erlewine, Eugene Chadbourne, Jason Ankeny, Craig Harris and Cub Koda, for example) and others who seem to fly away on a flight of indulgent, opinionated fancy. My first LP was this one - which I still possess. My family, all three of us, did not have a record player until I was about 16 years old. I had bought some singles prior to this, and was always amazed, baffled and mesmerised, by the strange coded 'messages' on the record label's.  Over the years I have sussed out most of the hieroglyphs - but it really was a different world, rather like Doctor Who !


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:36, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * If I'm a "fan" of any music writers, it would be Richie Unterberger, who's not only a very good interviewer and accurate writer, but also seems to have excellent taste in who he writes about. Ah, the young these days with all these download thingummyjigs - they'll never have the joy of discovering another Porky Prime Cut...   Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:50, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I forgot to include Unterberger in my list - you're absolutely right. Somehow, holding up and reading one of those record labels transported you in to a world of mystery and magic.  A porthole to the unreachable. Plus those cryptic vinyl, 'Porky' type messages. Heady days indeed.  Last weekend a couple of my dear friends (both Lancastrians, so not that dear), visited maison d'Bullamore.  Out came the vinyl; and we were away.  In a flight of alcohol fuelled fancy, I stated that "Birds high up in the trees, serenade the flowers with their melodies", and "You've got me never knowing, if I'm coming or going" were my favourite song lyrics. Then I dusted down "Stranger from another planet welcome to our hole, just strap on your guitar and we'll play some rock n' roll.".  Silly old timers, eh ?


 * Before this orgy of silliness we spent a couple of hours at Spurn, and viewed a seal on the beach, less than 20 yards away. Ain't life grand ?


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 01:18, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

African American vs. African-American
If I remember correclty at one time I was one of the editors who tried to get Category:African-American female singers renamed to Category:Afircan American female singers, but a bunch of people objected. Actually I had forgotten it, but I was the one who back on Aug. 22, 2011 made a prposal seen at this line to rename to Category:African American people and then rename all its subcats to not use a hypen. The proposal was to get rid of the hyphen. What actually happened is that they then turned around and imposed the hyphen everywhere. We now have Category:African-American people but also Category:Native American people. It does not make sense to me, but it makes sense to someone, and attempts to change either of these categories are not likely to make progress.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your swift response. As you rightly noted, the current situation does not make sense at all.  I do not know whether it is worth making a storm about, particularly in light of your experience, but maybe I'll shake the hornet's nest and see what transpires.  Best wishes,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:05, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Nude Records
Hi,

A user (IP address 46.65.58.76 and previously Dancingqueen100) repeatedly removes references details regarding the collapse of Nude Records falsely claiming every reference to any such detail to be either untrue or can't be trusted. I believe the facts regarding the aftermath of the label and it's affects on it's bands is quite relevant, and if wanted I could research every artist signed to the label adn add details on what happened to them (I'm not going to though). Previous references to the band Lowgold (from archived pages from the bands official website - the site was later redesigned with new content) were also previously removed. I believe Wikipedia is based on references, not people making baseless claims and removing anything that they do not happen to like from an article because it relates to them. Based on what the user removes, I believe the user is the label boss Saul Galpern, who has claimed to know who I am based on my IP address, despite me having no connection with him, the label or any artist signed to Nude.

92.8.29.174 (talk) 13:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. I do not want to get too involved in this matter, and have again referred the case to an administrator.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

The same admin who just removes the content, I see. Any reference to anything regarding the collapse of the labe and affects on artists are just reverted - I would also state that Saul Galpern and user Smartarse (or however they spell it) are the only people to remove such info.

92.8.29.174 (talk) 14:32, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I would also point out that it seems strange for an admin to "side" with an anonymous editor whose only edits are to remove content from this article. The text isn't controversial, is referenced and it's removal is only on the basis of it suiting the other user who could actually be just about anyone.

92.8.29.174 (talk) 14:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


 * First of all, just to be clear, although I am an administrator, this doesn't give me any more say than anyone else over the content of articles. 92.8 - you are correct that Wikipedia should be based on references, but they have to be 'reliable' as determined by our policies and guidelines. This and this are both self-published and there is no evidence that the websites have "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" like a newspaper has. That's not to say that I think that they are lying, but for us verifiability is more important than the truth. I have searched factiva and google news to see if I can find a better source but they don't seem to exist. As a result, this content doesn't belong in the article. (If you wish to continue discussing this, please head to Talk:Nude Records rather than here, since that is the better place to discuss this). Thanks SmartSE (talk) 14:41, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure a fanzine interview with a band member is "reliable". Based on the criteria you're claiming, I'd imagine about 80% of all references on Wikipedia are not valid therefore making the whole website useless. I think the issue you should be looking at more closely is why a user, who hasn't revealed their identity yet takes on the persona of someone connected to the article in question, is removing the info - which is correct regardless of whether you think the references used are "reliable" (which they are).

92.8.29.174 (talk) 14:46, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I'm pretty sure that it isn't... I just explained why though, but you haven't explained why you consider them reliable (based on our policies and guidelines). You're correct that there are many references on Wikipedia that aren't reliable, but surely you can realise that that is no reason to add more? If you still think they are reliable, we can head to this noticeboard to get some more input from others users. SmartSE (talk) 14:55, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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