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Hello Marek. Sorry it took me a while to get back to you, I'm a Wikipedia user since about 2003 but my current account goes back to 2005 on nl.wikipedia I'm an experienced contributor and I intend to contribute also to the english wikipedia project --DerekvG (talk) 02:10, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

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Malignant brain tumor
Hi Derek,

Do you need help with the brain tumor merge? I'd like to get that merge resolved. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:14, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

hello sure you can help, above this section is a link to my sandbox look in braintumor and look for the newbtmain page, i need help with referencing and proofreading for spelling errors (i'm heavily dyslectic and blind for spelling mistakes.--DerekvG (talk) 23:12, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm happy to proofread for you; it's easy for me.
 * Why don't you pick out a section to work on (e.g., "Signs and symptoms") and use the existing text (e.g., Brain tumor and Malignant brain tumor) as your starting point? You can paste the text (and the existing references) into your sandbox and re-write however you'd like.
 * Then drop me a note, and I'll clean up any grammar or spelling problems for you. Does that sound good to you?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll get back to you with a first part, in the mean time could you have a look at


 * Fibrillary_astrocytoma ( a new page i created)
 * Pilocytic_astrocytoma  ( a page i edited0
 * Pleomorphic_Xanthoastrocytoma (a page i created)
 * Astrocytoma (a page on which i did soem minor editing)

--DerekvG (talk) 00:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that it takes some time but i'm going daily to the clinic where my son is recovering from a meningioma ressection. I've made the first part available in in first part of new braintumor page--DerekvG (talk) 23:51, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Derek,
 * I haven't forgotten you: I've been off wiki for a few days.  I'm catching up, and your work is on my list.  Feel free to leave a note for me in a day or two if I'm being too slow.
 * I hope that your son is doing well. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * we are going through a worrysome period, but ge's recovering well thx--DerekvG (talk) 00:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


 * hi WhatamIdoing
 * After 8 weeks my son has returned home his MRI-Scan result is very good (he had 8 week of IV antibiotics to treat an infection).
 * Did you have the time to read my braintumor edit?
 * Can you help me pointing me to an article that tells me what "Endothelial proliferation" is ?
 * --DerekvG (talk) 16:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia Belgium
Hello,

Je suis désolé de devoir m'exprimer en français, mais mon anglais est lamentable et mon néerlandais est pire encore... On m'a dit que vous parliez bien le français et que vous étiez en faveur d'un chapter unique pour la Belgique. Je suis très heureux de voir une personne motivée de plus, et surtout qui soit d'avis de créer un seul chapter en Belgique !

L'idée n'est pas morte, seulement, les bonnes volontés manquent ! Nous envisageons d'organiser une wikirencontre dans quelques semaines entre personnes motivées, histoire de faire connaissance et de briser la glace !

Bien à vous !

--M0tty (talk) 18:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Bonjour, en effet, je parle francais, anglais, neerlandais. Je suis interesse pas un chapter belge mais... je vois de problemes aux niveau de usage de langues, vis a vis les autres wiki (nl, fr, de) j'avais posezq quelques questions auxquelles je ne receveait aucune reponse. De la bonne volonte est une chose, participer regulierement par bonne volonte me semble guerre rassembler des masses de particpants. Vous pouvez toujours me proposer quelques dates mais je vous dis maintenant deja qu'a cause de la situation de sante de mon fils, mon temps est limitee, et mes deplacements aussi. --DerekvG (talk) 19:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

June 2010
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Sorry it was not my intention to blank an actual page in wikipedia, but it was my intention to remove an obsolete archive page in my sandbox ...--DerekvG (talk) 20:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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Hello. Why on Earth would you "report my behaviour"? We're both trying, in good faith, to improve the article. I'm frankly quite surprised at this as it seemed to me that everything was perfectly civil until you put that tag on my page. Of course, if we were not able to come to some sort of resolution, it's appropriate to seek intervention, but I think you were very premature in doing so. Just something to think about.  Oreo Priest  talk 00:59, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * oh should I indeed? don't you think that this asssumption works both ways ? --DerekvG (talk) 14:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

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Dag uw userpage zette mij ertoe aan een tip te geven, een aanrader. Lotje (talk) 14:49, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ik bedoelde natuurlijk het boek van Marc Descheemaecker! Lotje (talk) 14:52, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * B-) je bedoelde Dwarsligger van Marc Descheemaecker, In het Fyra dossier had hij - tijdens zijn presenatie in de Senaat tijdens de buitengewone zitting van het Benelux-parlement, meer dan gelijk dat het de schuld van de politieke broodheren van de NMBS (de lange rits politici van allerlei slag) was dat zich het probleem van Fyra en kon voordoen. De opeenstapeling van een aantal domme beslissingen, van een tunnelvisie op trein vervoer van passagiers, HST investeringen ten nadele van investeringen in het OV (lage snelheid/ lokaal & express) en daaruit voorvloeiende blunders tijdens de beoordeling van het dossier, waarbij de nederlanders zich weer van hun kleinste en krenterigste kant lieten zien.  Het boek is  echter vooral blind natrappen naar vakbonden en socialisten , wat hem in de gunst van de NVA top moest doen komen.  Descheemaker is geen dwarsligger (meer) maar eem gatlikkende ja-knikker van het profiterende deel van het patronaat en het snelle gewin.  spijtig  --DerekvG (talk) 15:52, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ... zo'n pleidooi, wat valt daar nog aan toe te voegen. liggen dus op je maag: de Fyra, de Nederlandse mentaliteit, MarcDescheemaecker, de Nieuw-Vlaamse Alliantie. Mij is het vooral om feiten te doen waar een mens niet om heen kan. 0:3 Lotje (talk) 04:38, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * @Lotje Dat zou je zo kunnen zeggen maar dat zie je m.i. verkeerd : het is niet Fyra, de Nederlandse mentaliteit, MarcDescheemaecker, de Nieuw-Vlaamse Alliantie mij op mijn maag liggen dat zijn symptomen van een achterliggende oorzaak, dat is wat mij dwarszit. Bijvoorbeeld het is niet "de nederlandse mentaliteit" want dat is eem mythe, wel is het zo dat de beleiddsmakers (politici en directie spoorweg maatschappijen) van beide landen - oiv de nederlandse groep - bij hun beslissing over welk materiaal men ging kopen naar de geodkoopste oplossing grepen, ttz de firma die financieel de laagste prijs had, de grootste korting gaf, hoewel die firma geen ervaring had met het nederlandse en belgische spoorweg net, noch met de klimaatsomstandigheden er problemen waren met hun toestellen in Denemarken.  Ik gebruik het beeld van de "krenterigheid" om een bepaalde mindset bij de beleidsmakers aan te duiden : men weet drommels  goed dat aanbieders als Siemens en Bombardier of Alhstom veel betere papieren en kwalitiatief veel beter produkten hadden die hun degelijkheid reeds lang hadden bewezen en dus veel minder testen nodig hadden om op het net te rijden  dan  AnsaldoBreda maar men vreest de kritiek als men niet voor het goedkoopste kiest (omdat de oppositie dit argument zal gebruiken, ze zouden het zelf ook doen als ze in de opposities zaten. Die mindset zit ook achter de denkpiste waarbij men kiest voor het HST porject en niet voor een investering in het OV dat nu rijdt met versleten materiaal dat niet of onvoldoende gemoderniseerd en onerhouden werd, chronisch plaatstekort (onder capaciteit).  Diezelfde mindset heeft ook op ander domeinen een impact bvb is die ook vernatwoordelijk voor het idee dat men bepaalde categorien mensen geen voldoende inkomen levenskwaliteit gunt en die mindset en dus slechts items gewijze matregelen neemt en geen structurele maatregelen. natrappen en mensen doen verliezen om hen te straffen anders over bepaalde dingeen te durven denken is deel van die mindset.
 * Voor mij is de vraag niet "zijn er feiten waar men niet om heen kan"? Want "facts are stronger than the lord mayor of London", maar in hoevere zijn dei feiten het geolg van beslissingen die we kunnen omdraaaien, waarvan we -als we oordelen dat die belsssing fout is - de impact kunnen omkeren.. In het Fyra dossier was marc Descheemaker dus een dwarsligger en heeft hij een verkeerde beslissing helpen rechtzetten.   Hoe zijn we nu in deze discussie verzeilt geraakt --DerekvG (talk) 08:48, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * het is de plicht van elke burger misstanden aan de kaak te stellen en de betrokkenen ter verantwoording te roepen. Struisvogelpolitiek is niet aan de orde. Ik blijf ervan overtuigd dat in het verleden, te veel politici niet bekwaam waren voor de portefeuille die hen werd "toegekend". Je gaat toch ook niet naar de banketbakker om er charcuterie te kopen? In dit specifiek geval van de spoorwegen: de bevoegde ministers (voor Nederland Melanie Schultz van Haegen? voor België Jacqueline Galant?) omringd door een team dat niet politiek is geïnspireerd, zou heel wat kunnen veranderen. De liberalisering van de spoorwegen zit er aan te komen, dat wordt nog spannend. En hoe zijn we in deze discussie verzeild geraakt? Dat ik het ook niet weet.   (talk) 04:23, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Lotje de liberalisering van de spoorwegen is catastrofaal gebleken in ALLE experimenten die tot nu toe gebeurd zijn in en buiten Europa (Groot Brittanie op kop, Nederland en belgie waar het een puinhoop is frankrijk nl en belgie waar een bedrijf aan cherypicking mag doen enz.. ), omdat het niet over liberalisering gaat maar over deregulatie, idem ditto voor de luchtvaart industrie ( het Germanwings ongeval is daar een voorbeeld van en er zullen er nog veel volgen ) idem ditto voor de deregulering van de banken en de financiele markten, idem ditto voor de electriciteismarkt de gas markt en de watermarkt (inlcusief de afvalwater verwerking), en tenslotte ook voor de merkt van de afvalverwerking.  dus de privesoector bewijst dat het niet in staat is dergelijk services te leveren omdat  men de regels niet respecteert, bewsut beslissingen neemt die inleveren op de kwaliteit ten gunste van korte termijn winst cijfers, en omdat concurrentie de lat NIET gelijk legt voor alle spelers waardoor de valsspelers  de vrije hand krijgen.
 * ministers hoeven geen experten te zijn wel een vizie kunne ontwikkelen en de omzetting naar strategiesche doelstellingen te begeleiden . Dit is waar het in de vorbij decenai is verkeerd gelopen : ttz de NMBS is opgesplitst in complementaire bedrijven die onder elkaar om macht en territorium strijden : de verantwoordelijkheid daarvoor ligt bij de vizie van de betrokken ministers - en de regering achter hun - over wat liberalisering nu juist inhield. De lange termijn keuzes van de verschillende ministers was inzetten op HSL; dat is een domme keuze in de context van een land ter grote van belgie  waar men juist meer moet inzetten in defferentieatie in IC en L treinen ( waarom rijden er l treinen door de brusselse NZ verbinding??) en de comfort van de reiziger (dus weg met die stinkende beestenwagens die nu rondrijden, en op snlle afahndeling van vracht: lijnen voor vrahct vervoer met hoger desnsitei treienen  (doorvoertijden zijn 3-5x te lang) alsook sneller transitverkeer geoderen treinen, meer facilteiten  voor piggybacking ( aanhangers op treinwagons) er zijn 2 stations in belgie waar aanhangers op de trein kunnen gezet worden zeebrugge en antwerpen . de nadruk van de politici op de HSL heeft vrahct parten gepseeld, heeft het OV component partene gespeeld,  de NMBS moet concurentie voeren tegen zichzelf in het Thalys verhaal, en heeft ons et Fyra verhaal opgeleverd (dus men wil dure HSL lijnen , maar goedkope treinen ... dat werk niet ) ,  daarnaast heeft het ons  ook het diabolo verhaal opgeleverd dat niet werkt maar reizigers soms 4.5eur pe rit kost tussen mechelen en brussel ... VOOR NIKS ... om 7.5 minuut te verliezen,

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Nomination of Fortifications of Antwerp for deletion
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There is no discussion happening on Talk:Fortifications of Antwerp, in other words you MSJapan has nominated an article for deleteion without prior discussion, actually that nomination should be the concluding action AFTER discussion on the article talk page. I find your action offensive, denigrating, inconsiderate, and a few other thing i will not mention out of politeness. The first sentence of this bot message may be grammatically correct, your action is the contrary of what it says. I don't make any proprietory claims but as such i find your action insulting towards the ongoing effort to bring validated information and sources to the article. The info provided is historically correct and sourced contrary to your claims. --DerekvG (talk) 14:21, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * That is because, if you bothered to read the notice, the discussion is not taking place on the Talk page. That is not where Articles for deletion discussions occur, and they never have. The discussion is taking place at Articles for deletion/Fortifications of Antwerp (where it should be)  and furthermore, the utter lack of reliable secondary sources is precisely the problem.  Please read WP:RS and understand how Wikipedia works and what it requires before you decide to complain about how it's someone else's fault that you are failing to edit within policies and guidelines. MSJapan (talk) 19:19, 20 September 2016 (UTC)


 * If you bother to read my comment you would not make this comment ! let me get it clear to you : ALL wikipedia documents and policies state clearly that the first discussion shoudl take place on the talk page of the article\. ther fore nomination for deletion is the tep after that discussion has terminated. you did tho opoosite --DerekvG (talk) 21:44, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Fortifications of Antwerp
Hi, just leaving a note here about the discussion. I know that having an article that you created nominated for deletion is upsetting (it happened to me too). But the article is more or less "safe" since the consensus that I see in the discussion is firmly to keep. Just wait the 7-day period out and the article will suffer no harm :-). That said, I'd suggest you remove your last comment as it was not very nice towards the nominator. I think it would be best to keep it civil, and the article is in no danger of being deleted. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:08, 21 September 2016 (UTC)


 * User:K.e.coffman I object being called impolite or uncivil for saying to another user how uncivil and impolite his actions are. That is the equivalent of victim blaming, an action quite common in Wikipedia for people defending themselves against knowledgevandals such as MSJapan (nb I've shared my concerns and my opinion on these matters with Jimbo Wales, who is not rejecting my views of the phenomenon). As i said before all documents within Wikipedia describing policy say the same thing, all document used to Wikipedia teach newbees about wikipedia say the same thing : one should start a discussion about an article on the talk page of the article not in the nominated for deletion list. Nomination for deletion of a valid article that is being worked on should be doen AFTER the discussion of the article in the Talk page, therefore nominating an article for deletion before any such discussion took place is uncivil, denigrating, condescending, impolite and foremost against regulations ... now again  you come here to menaced with repraisals while the nominator is not even as much as reprimanded for his course of action. so before you talk to me about uncivil behaviour please reprimand the nominator --DerekvG (talk) --DerekvG (talk) 18:21, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to review the progress on the article at User:DerekvG/sandbox/edits_fortifications_Antwerp--DerekvG (talk) 18:21, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Brasserie Grain d'Orge (Hombourg)
Hello, DerekvG. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Brasserie Grain d'Orge (Hombourg), for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:


 * 1) edit the page
 * 2) remove the text that looks like this:
 * 3) save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Power~enwiki (talk) 05:22, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * @Power~enwiki Your claim about lack of notability means we can delete every thing on Belgian Beers and therefore anything on beers and breweries because only the global big five have notability. You clearly ignore the mentions of this brewery in at least two major international beer reference/review-websites, Ratebeer and Beeradvocate. In short I don't agree with your appreciation--DerekvG (talk) 08:52, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * BTW your nomination is uncivil and disrespectful because you have made no previous attempt to discuss the matter or contribute to/correct or improve the article.--DerekvG (talk) 08:56, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red World Contest
Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

Proposed deletion of Aarschotse Stadsbrouwerij


The article Aarschotse Stadsbrouwerij has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Does not read like an encyclopedic entry nor seems to be a notable topic."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Dial911 (talk) 06:23, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

FYI
Hi, DerekvG. I have seen that you voted in 2016 against Vituzzu to be confirmed as Steward. I agree with you and for further information about "who is Vituzzu", please go to [REDACTED - Oshwah] Sincerely, M1959 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.196.81.57 (talk) 22:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)