User talk:Derweisemann442

Hello first, the Turkish government probably knows better than the English or American newspaper what they have and what they don't;) if the Turkish state newspaper says that they have so many soldiers or that they spend so much on the military, that is probably not to be contradicted, because it I emphasize again that it is your own data and not random data like that of England or America, where everything is written according to whim, but you can tell that a conscious attempt is being made to downplay Turkey;) that is the reality and the turkey is militarily much stronger than it is shown here nowhere from turkish since these data are as in wikipedia.
 * Please see WP:OR and WP:RS and Turkish Wikipedia does not use that sources.Shadow4dark (talk) 19:34, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2022
Hello, I'm Shadow4dark. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Shadow4dark (talk) 23:23, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Shadow4dark. Your recent edit(s) appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Shadow4dark (talk) 23:33, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If Turkish armed forces has "60 billions income" that means they have 7%+ GDP on military spending wich is impossible. Please come with research source for such claims. Shadow4dark (talk) 23:36, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Turkish armed forces“
Here are dif Derweisemann442 (talk) 03:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

February 2024
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Turkish Armed Forces. You can NOT insert numbers for 2024 while leaving a 2021 reference there: it looks like you're making up your own numbers. Drmies (talk) 02:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * And please stop yelling at other editors in your edit summaries. Drmies (talk) 02:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * you take some numbers from some sites that probably don't even have any idea what they're talking about. I take numbers from the Turkish General Staff himself! and leave a link to it every time" how can it be proven? it's you who are trying to use numbers that make no sense at all without any sources, it's not me who is destroying wikipedia! and here's the link again.
 * https://www.birgun.net/haber/turkiyedeki-asker-sayisi-tskde-kac-asker-gorev-yapiyor-guncel-433963 Derweisemann442 (talk) 02:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Few weeks ago they said 80 billions now 40 wich one is the truth as both is unverified claims. Shadow4dark (talk) 03:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello? These sources come from the Turkish General Staff. More legitimacy is not possible.” And the Turkish Defense Ministry has never said anything about 355,000 soldiers or $10 billion. Do you believe any news presses more than the Turkish Ministry of Defense?, where is the logic now? If the Turkish Ministry of Defense publishes something about the Turkish military then there is nothing that is more credible. It is pointless to discuss it at all because it is clear anyway. So Wikipedia uses incorrect information. People should know that. I will notify wikipedia support as this cannot be the case. Derweisemann442 (talk) 04:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You must provide a legitimate basis for your consistent claim that "These sources come from the Turkish General Staff". Not only articles about Turkish Armed Forces, but also articles about other countries' armed forces do not use sources from globalfirepower or tabloids that you claim to be credible as quotes. English Wikipedia does not write and improve articles in such a simple way as you might think. You need to learn about the rules for writing articles in the English Wikipedia. Gasiseda (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I‘ll contact the sipri and Wikipedia support and there is an consistent claim“ you 3 wiki creators don’t want see the truth you believe“ no you want believe more an Swedish company then the Turkish defense ministry how funny“ and this shows everything“ I‘ll let here an link this site is from the turkish defense department them self" is not possible.
 * https://www.savunmasanayist.com/turkiyenin-2024-yili-savunma-butcesi-rekor-artisa-gebe/ Derweisemann442 (talk) 15:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You still don't seem to understand the citation of the source. Are you sure all the sources you present are official sources of the Turkish Ministry of Defense?
 * https://www.savunmasanayist.com/turkiyenin-2024-yili-savunma-butcesi-rekor-artisa-gebe/
 * As far as I know, that website link is not the official site of the Turkish Ministry of Defense, it is just a news media covering Turkish military news. As mentioned earlier, articles on the military of other countries also use statistics from the Ministry of Defense, International Institute for Strategic Studies, and the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute as quotes. You claim that the statistical data from Turkey's news media are official data from Turkey's Ministry of Defense, while thoroughly ignoring the independent sources of international research institutes.
 * The source you presented in the Turkish Armed Forces article:
 * https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-allocate-150-more-defense-budget-2024-minister-2023-10-17
 * https://www.birgun.net/haber/turkiyedeki-asker-sayisi-tskde-kac-asker-gorev-yapiyor-guncel-433963
 * And if you don't trust British and American media, why did you present a source containing statistics from the Reuters and International Institute for Strategic Studies in the United Kingdom? You call the sources from independent international research institutes "Swedish Company" but in an article in Hellenic Armed Forces, you show a contradictory behavior of presenting the sources containing statistics from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. When writing or improving articles in English Wikipedia, the first thing to aim for is to use credible sources. You continue to insist that statistics from Turkish news media are from the Turkish Ministry of Defense. That is not how English Wikipedia works. Gasiseda (talk) 16:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Hellenic Armed Forces' 2022 Defense Expenditure
Your source: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS

The number 3.7 from the source you've given is not referring to the actual amount of defense spending, it's a number that shows the annual rate of increase in defense spending. You edited the article, claiming that the number 3.7 from the source you presented is as if it were the actual defense budget of the Hellenic Armed Forces.

SIPRI Source: https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/2023-04/2304_fs_milex_2022.pdf

Official 2022 statistics from SIPRI show that the actual defense cost of the Hellenic Armed Forces is clearly $8.1 billion (approximately €7.5 billion). You are constantly editing certain articles, presenting completely different external sources from SIPRI's official statistics. May I know why you're doing this? Gasiseda (talk) 08:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)