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August 2013
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Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering
Hello SilkTork,

Thanks for the friendly welcome.

Would you be willing to give some feedback? I’m new to WP and want to get off to a good start.

I’m a technical editor for an engineering and construction firm—with little time, but want to help as I can. So, I’ve been copyediting a bit as I research topics. For example, I have been doing some quick edits for capitalization, grammar and style on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering

Here’s the problem: There’s been an anonymous user who repeatedly changes my editing back to capitalizing common nouns and generic use of titles, etc., on the above article. (There have been several anonymous IP addresses for the edits, but probably the same person.) From the lack of care in the final product, it appears they are an engineer, and not an editor. Thus, the topic is dear to their heart and their persistance is great.

Rather than just using an undo when I saw them in the middle of reverting things last evening, I waited until this morning. I tried leaving a message at their last IP address talk page. Then I realized that the anonymous-IP user will most likely have a different address next time and won’t see my message. I’ve tried leaving a brief explanation when I leave edits, but they aren’t looking at those or are ignoring them.

Would you be willing to check out their latest version and my latest version (Sep. 23 and 24)? And perhaps my message on their talk page? Please let me know what you think. Then—if my interpretations and edits have been mostly correct—what do I do with repeated incorrect reverts from an anonymous user?

Kind regards, Bob, Desertroadbob (talk) 15:46, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * That's a tricky one because the person uses a different IP each time they edit, so messages wouldn't be noticed, and they don't appear to be responding to your edit summary comments. A range-block would be difficult as the range appears quite large, and I would need to check that nobody else is editing within that range. What I have done is to semi-protect the article for three weeks. This will prevent that editor from editing the article, which may make them take notice that what they are doing is inappropriate (they can't have completely missed that their edits are being reverted, because they are reverting back). I don't think they mean any harm - I think it's likely that they are unaware of our style guidelines, and feel that it is you who are in the wrong! You did the right thing in approaching someone else for assistance after first attempting to discuss the matter with the other editor. And that is exactly what I would advise you to do if it happens again.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  16:55, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Desertroadbob → Desertroad
Desertroadbob (talk) 17:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Datestamp: 17:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Reason: Three reasons: 1) It is simpler than my current name, 2) it is less revealing than my current name, 3) It has no edits or obvious use on any Wiki account. In fact, I may have opened that account myself back in 2006, not used it and then forgotten about it when I decided to do something with Wikipedia in 2010. I've become active this year, and would like to use the unused name.

Kosovo
Hello, SilkTork. Could you help with a new issue? It's regarding the List of oil refineries: a new user Kullaexim has been repeatedly putting an entry for Kosovo onto the list. However, I researched the issue (twice now, to be sure) and there is no third-party evidence that an oil refinery is operating in Kosovo—or that a new one was built after 2000 AD. The first time this entry appeared, there was link to a website with a tab for "refinery"—which did not allow access to the page. I've twice removed their entry and posted explanations in the edit line. The second time, I posted a notice on their talk page and the article's talk page. I pointed out the lack of evidence. Again, there was no response by them and they simply replaced the entry. Can you block them from editing the List of oil refineries and explain (with the authority behind you) that they need to follow guidelines? Desertroadbob (talk) 14:21, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

OK, the situation is becoming curiouser and curiouser. Since requesting your help, the non-responsive user Kullaexim finally replied. And they are wanting to do self-promotion on WP. It seems to me that WP is having quite the discussion on the issue. They have a link, but it does not show any production for the refinery—and I’m not familiar with the website. Kullaexim also admits that there is no online verifiable third party evidence for production numbers. This situation is again/still over my head. Can you (again/still) take things from here? Desertroadbob (talk) 15:50, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The user's name does not comply with policy so needs changing. I have left a note on the user's page via Twinkle (if you haven't enabled Twinkle yet, I can recommend it - it provides a range of templates and can perform a number of tasks quickly ans easily with a simple click). As they are now engaging in discussion, and appear to be willing to work with you, I think I can leave the rest of the matter in your capable hands. I have the user's talkpage watchlisted to check they do change their name. If they continue to edit without changing their name, and I don't notice or I'm offline, you can report them at Usernames for administrator attention. Making appropriate reports on administrative pages will stand you in good stead if you ever wish to go through RfA - and I think you should consider becoming an admin one day.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  13:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Please consider removing the negative comments about Kulla Exim refinery. Here I post links to articles in Albanian language regarding the construction and operation of Kosovo's Kulla Exim refinery. These Articles are in Albanian language and can be translated in google translate or similar service. Seanshepherd (talk) 10:52, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Kosovo Chamber of Commerce article. See page 12. []
 * News article mentioning construction of the refinery []
 * See News Article showing Kulla Exim to be the 10th largest employer in Kosovo.See page 104. []
 * Kosovo Ministry of Trade and Finance business registry website showing Kulla Exim to be registered as a manufacturer of petroleum products and to have a paid up social capital of 249 million Euros []