User talk:Designate/Archives/2012

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Obama article
Thank you for your note about the unemployment graph. See also my general note about the lack of criticism in the article, which was immediately hatted. It would appear that we are up against some kind of organized effort. A strong response is required. As a new user, I don't know how to do that. But I think it would be appropriate to bring up this matter at the highest levels of Wikipedia. After all, we appear to have an organized effort to turn the article on the President of the United States into a puff piece.

Feel free to contact me at my real email, which is [my last name][at]gmail[dot]com. William Jockusch (talk) 17:20, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the unhatting. There is strength in numbers. I have past experience with shill operations of the type that we appear to have here. The following are likely to be observed:
 * A large number of people will be involved in maintaining the article in its puff piece state.
 * If one of the people involved in maintaining the criticism-free article is caught doing something inappropriate, they may lay low for a while. Others will take their place.  This allows them to avoid getting banned/losing admin privileges, etc.
 * The puff piece supporters will show a deep knowledge of Wikipedia rules, policies, and procedure. They will always find superficial justification for their actions, yet the cumulative effect will be to maintain the article in an inappropriate state.

Regards. William Jockusch (talk) 01:42, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Obama Controversies Not Mentioned
If you want some points that have been getting kept out of the Obama article for years, controversies they don't want mentioned no matter how prominent, here are some examples.


 * Opposed medical care for newborn infants, was a major issue in both the 2004 and 2008 elections and brought up by Alan Keyes, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain. Newt Gingrich brought it up in 2012. I've written this page covering it, which includes 50 prominent sources. Some major sources include:
 * Disqualified all four opponents in first election, in 1996, so he could run unopposed. He used a team of lawyers to disqualify the petition signatures of opponents on technicalities after the filing deadline. I've written this section covering it. Some major sources include:
 * Struck a deal with Illinois Senate leader to get all legislation from other Illinois Senators directed to his desk in 2003, building his entire legislative record in one year, in preparation for the 2004 elections so he could become a U.S. Senator. I've written this page covering it. Some major sources include:

--98.220.198.49 (talk) 08:49, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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thank you for removing it from the Massachusetts template. it would be great if you could comment here. I think there could be a wider consensus with more input. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Language hatnotes
Hi Designate. I thought you had an excellent idea [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_88#Surname_clarification_at_top_of_article here] that seems to have had a really inconclusive result. Many of the reasons to keepI agree that a footnote model towards non-English standard names is superior to the overly prominent name Hatnotes. Indeed, that is the format I adopted on Zersenay Tadese almost three years ago.

I believe we should restart the discussion from the basis that these represent a severe departure from the purpose of hatnotes. A discussion appears to have begun at Wikipedia talk:Hatnote. SFB 17:44, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Linda Melconian


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