User talk:Deskana/Archive 3

My RFA
Hi ,

Thank you for supporting my RFA! Unfortunately it did not succeed mainly because most opposers wanted me to spend more time on Wikipedia. Thank you for your faith in me & looking forward to your continued support in the future.

Cheers

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  )  00:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

AfC archiving
Hello. You asked User:Oleg Alexandrov for help with automating the archiving of WP:AfC. He passed your request on to me. You said that the main issue is moving the page. I managed to tackle this bit and I'm confident that I'll be able to do the rest. Please let me know whether this would be of any help for you. Cheers, Jitse Niesen (talk) 14:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Deskana. I have replied to Jitse on his talk page; take a look. ×Meegs 16:29, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

wiki syntax
Is this easier on the server? I just use the HTML out of habit but I can change if necessary. Soph i  a  Gilraen   of Dorthonion  08:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC) (this signature is under attack and will change shortly when I can find out what it needs to be to keep the people with no sense of fun happy)
 * To be totally honest, I'm not sure. All I know is that Wikisyntax is preferred... I'll have to look this up. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 09:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Dear Lord Deskana &mdash; Thank you for your support (all six of them) on my recent RfA. It succeeded with a final tally of 72/2/0 and I am now an administrator. I'll be taking things slowly at first and getting used to the new tools, but please let me know if there's any adminnery I can help you with in the future. &mdash;Wh o uk (talk) 18:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Protection
Dear Deskana, I have seen that you have protected the Adolf Hitler page because of reverting back and forth. While I can understand your frustration I have to tell you that you have not punished but rewarded the last reverter (who is quite notorious for not actually being part of the discussion) and is friends (one of which is using puppets) by freezing his version, which is inferior in regard to structure and language (to say nothing about the content which of course is a contentious point). Even worse, right now this version stands without readers being aware of the troublesome nature of the section in dispute - I suggest that the section "Hitler's religious beliefs" should be tagged as "totally disputed". Given my experience from this dispute, an agreement is far away as points raised on the talk page are frequently ignored by the other side. Good night, Str1977 (smile back) 21:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say that's fair. I'll do that. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * What I mean is, tagging it as "totally disputed" is fair. "Protection is not an endorsement of the current version" so I can't really speak about the rest of what you said. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I know of no editors who are currently disputing the factual accuracy of the section in question. I respectfully request that the tag be changed to a NPOV only dispute. Drogo Underburrow 17:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Drogo knows me (wiki-wise) so he knows one. I have now posted my objections, going through all the pararaphs, on the talk page. There are both issues of factual accuracy and of NPOV, though they are entagled frequently. Str1977 (smile back) 14:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Your issues are all about choice of facts to include, or complaints about facts not included. I didn't find any examples of a fact that is itself disputed as being untrue. You are not disputing the current version's factual accuracy, you are disputing it because it doesn't promote your POV. No tag is warranted, but at least get rid of the factual dispute tag, as you arn't disputing any.Drogo Underburrow 21:57, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Deskana, various hitherto involved editors have commented on the dispute but there is no movement in this. One of the opposing disputants has gone on a wiki-break while the other is not actually responding. I'd be pleased if you could weigh in. Cheers, Str1977 (smile back) 13:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Xeni Jardin
Hi. You protected the above page because of an edit war. I became involved as a neutral party through RfC and have been discussing the differences with the editors involved, who have now reached a consensus on the talk page, so I am requesting the protection is removed. You may think it best if it is left semi-protected to prevent anon edits which might seek to violate the consensus (i.e. as a form of vandalism), or to remove the protection altogether.

There are certain immediate edit decisions stated in the consensus, which should be carried out prior to, or immediately upon, the removal of protection. These are:

1) Get rid of the section headings.

2) Omit the "temple of me" blog (which has already been removed by an admin anyway).

3) Delete this text: Jardin and her work have not been without criticism. Her perceived self-promotion, her writing style and her choice of subject matter have been cited by her critics.

4) Keep this text, but delete footnote 9 (keep the other footnotes): In March 2006, Matthew N. Sharp created XeniSucks.com [9], which criticizes and parodies Jardin's posts on Boing Boing. New York Times columnist Dan Mitchell wrote that XeniSucks.com is a "hate blog" that delivers "nasty, sarcastic invective delivered in spot-on Comic Book Guy tone" [10]. Jardin posted a link to the site on Boing Boing and described it as "a total hoot" [11].

As you had placed the protection, I thought it would be best to contact you directly in the first instance, rather than RFP. Please let me know if the above is acceptable. I would be pleased to discuss anything further relating to the article.

I think it would also be a good idea if a (hidden?) note to editors was left at the top of the article to draw attention to the consensus.

I am willing to do these intial edits if necessary, to get the article back on an even keel again, but I do not intend to do any conventional editing to this article.

Tyrenius 19:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

PS FYI the following was left on the Xeni Jardin talk page:
 * I'm not as worried as you are, Tyrenius, about new or anon editors causing problems. Historically, IP editors here have respected the consensus, even in the Xeni Jardin page. The problems that led to the edit war and 3RR has revolved largely around new editors, with accounts and names, however, they have all now joined the new consensus, with its weird red lines and all. I think total unprotection is probably fine now. - 66.92.73.52 23:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Tyrenius 23:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Subway is too expensive
That subway in stockport is too expensive and i have no idea how people at my college manage to afford it everyday. You also have a new worker who is really slow.

That is all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.4.35.25 (talk • contribs).


 * Hahahaha... wow. You're talking about the Grand Central one, right? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 07:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Gaz! IM me!

t.A.T.u. and Tatu
Oh hi =) What are we going to do with the Tatu redirect to t.A.T.u.? No admin wants to listen and that NawaShibari just reverts the page...help? I created the alternative page Tatu (bondage rope artist), but he won't agree to use it! --Shandris 08:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, he has to now, I protected the redirect. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 08:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Deskana! You saved my day, thank you, thank you, thank you! Shandris 09:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


 * "I had my article on Tatu . . . I ask that my page be restored" -- there's quite a reek of vanity. -- Hoary 07:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Ooops... What are we going to do now as he filed that Mediation Request? You know what, I had no idea it was Tatu himself who was the user, I thought it was a fan...it's brewing up for a war...The porn artist himself vs. the girls who don't belong to the past - they released an album not so while ago and will release more soon, I've never even heard of some Tatu rope porn guy...have you? --Shandris 16:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

His name is Jimi Tatu, where he also made a page to himself, which now redirects to Tatu. --Shandris 19:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Jimi Tatu's page is http://www.JimiTatu.com

If you would like me to stop vandalising your page:
Cease referring to yourself as "Darth" and "Dark Lord of the Sith." It makes you sound as if you still play with Pokemon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.148.166.5 (talk • contribs).


 * I don't like blackmail. Why do you care, anyway? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 09:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

thank you for giving me a chance in good faith

 * I really appreciate it and will show you that your faith in my seeing the error(s) of my edits, and I have calmed down, and in the future will always take note of policys at Wiki, before I edit/publish, thank you..it is so good to be back in the fold!

Best regards, Cathy (Cathytreks 16:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC))
 * Now she's claiming that the Lincoln photo she has uploaded is her own "private" page (here). Rklawton 17:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

A COPY OF MY LETTER OF EXSPLANATION TO RKLAWTON....I am acting in good faith, yet am being hammered without mercy or kindness....I am NOT violating Wiki plicy, and heres why I believe so in my letter to him, Which was written just after he ran to you, to put me in the dog house...again, (what does this person have against me?) I feel that I am being blackballed, and for nothing, your opinion?

"Hi Robert, I do not believe to be in violation, heres why, my first my words may have been ill chosen, I was mearly stating that that page in question was put up by myself, and none other,all in an attempt to show the research that was done by a Lincoln historian ,Modern day John B. Bachelder family lay claim to the fact of the Lincolns Death photo being taken by John B Bachelder himself in Lloyd Ostendorfs book 'Lincoln's Photographs: A Complete Album 1998, morningside press.) It was his research and evidence that was and is being presented, not mine..so I have not violated any of the Wiki rules that you state above in fact, and I am taking steps in making sure that from here on out all things will be done "by the book", and respectfully so as Wiki policy demands it. sincerely, Cathy (small and meek) (Cathytreks 17:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC))"

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rklawton"

This page was last modified 17:09, 17 May 2006. All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (see Copyrights for details). Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

Respond..
I respond your question in Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents and I hope you can understand my anonimity issues. --Jason Five 22:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I can understand your reasons... but I wouldn't be so worried, myself. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think an administrator need take care this, right? He continues creating sockpuppets and act with disrupt behavior and how much time Administrator staff will ignore this if was already reported and comproved? --Jason Five 22:19, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I know
He's being very unrobsteadman-y. The third option is it really isn't Rob Steadman, just an impostor..and the fourth is its an unconnected user also named rob steadman who is being cagey and not realizing that the hammer is about to drop. I think I'll ping Ann about it, and if she agrees we have 3 admins to support the block. If it is Rob, we have nothing to lose by being slow-to-block: either this particular user remains innocuous or he freaks out and is blocked for being disruptive. Syrthiss 21:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thinking about it, there are a few possibilities
 * Imposter, and should thusly be blocked (fairly likely)
 * Indefblocked user evading block, and should thusly be blocked (fairly likely)
 * Isn't actually Robsteadman, amazing coincidence that this user edits same topics and Robsteadman and has a similar name, and should not be blocked (practically impossible)
 * Since the user User:Robertsteadman (talk • contribs) wouldn't confirm or deny, I'm confident it is one of the first two scenarios and that we should block. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, I hadn't noticed that he was editing the same articles. Syrthiss 21:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I realise all users are equally valued and important, but from what I can see of Robertsteadman's contributions, it's all Wikilink adding. I think we should block. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Confirmed by CheckUser: Syrthiss 12:22, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Deskana please help, i'm being stalked by Rklawton
He wont leave off no matter what I do, I have asked him several times to stop ruining my hard investigated pages, and me, but he wont leave me alone!, please he follows me from page to page, with nothing to say but attempts to frighten me or get me riled up, isnt there a rule about stalking on wikipeadea? please ask him to leave off, i'm frightened of him and he has done everything in his power to undermine me and my edits here....and obssesively so. thank you for your help if you can. Cathy (Cathytreks 23:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC))


 * Other users are allowed to edit your talk page. I suggest that you be less paranoid. I've seen no evidence of any form of stalking, at all. Relax. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 23:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for helping with Peter morrell. I've been helping him with general editing but I hope you don't mind that I pointed him in your direction as images and all the copyright stuff are not my strong point. I'm reading your comments and learning too! Sophia 11:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. Here to help! I'd be happy to nominate you for adminship someday, when you feel you're ready. I think you'd make a good one. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 12:09, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Content Disputes Aren't Vandalism
Well done on not bothering to respond to my backed up comment that this is not vandalism but a content dispute in line with policy. Its not the point that it can be "forgotten" about, I deserve a response that either shows me as a "newbie" that broke the Vandalism rules by taking up Jimbo's offer to edit something humorous into his page or admitting it was a mistake to warn for disagreeing that the image shouldn't be on the userpage. Instead the iron fist of state has oppressed and Biten the Newcomer.

Arguably, semi-protecting my talk page when you could have just justified the warning you decided on under vandalism rules breaks Semi-protection policy: Talk pages and user talk pages are not protected as a rule, except in special circumstances.

Semi-protection should only be considered if it is the only option left available to solve the problem of vandalism of the page. Is disagreeing with warnings and asking for an explanation on how I went against Jimbo Wales' word vandalism? Food for thought. 172.213.181.3 13:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I quote Jimbo's page: "Note that quite a few Wikipedians watch my user page and will edit mercilessly or even remove altogether any alterations made. This is a wiki, after all". What are you doing exactly? Testing me? Disrupting Wikipedia to make a point? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 14:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * You also used a deceptive edit summary. And you can hardly call adding that image a "content dispute". So please don't lecture me. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 14:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * You also show an extremely perceptive grasps of the rules and policies of Wikipedia for a newcomer. I was also impressed with your ability to format a quote from a policy page. I can't have "bitten the newcomer" if you're not a newcomer. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:38, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes Jimbo does say that people may not agree with what you add to his page so what you edit in might be removed. It however doesn't imply that it is Vandalism if someone disagrees what you put on the page. That is in short, a content dispute.


 * Also, you were not to know whether I was a newcomer or not by warning me for apparent vandalism so that can't be used as any justification or excuse. Secondly, I haven't disrupted Wikipedia, I've edited a page and disagreed over a warning I've been given. Lastly, WP:POINT is a guideline not a policy.


 * ps You could have assumed good faith and that I was simply a quick learner of policy, rather than making assumptions along some guidelines. Policy always should be above guidelines....surely? 172.215.120.112 16:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I will think about what you have said, but I stand by my actions totally and firmly. Although I could get into an argument with you over this, I won't. Just forget about it, seriously. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 18:20, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

"Don't bite the new admins"? WP:BITE? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 18:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:BP discussion on deceased users
Hi Deskana. I noticed you blocked the accounts of Kwantus and Caroline Thompson, both of whom are listed on WP:DW. While I think the blocks are a good idea, and I don't dispute them, I brought up a couple of points at Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy, which you might want to respond to. Thanks! szyslak (t, c,  e ) 20:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

User_talk:Eggman_15
Was indefinite blocking perhaps excessive? I mean, yeah, he's a blatant vandal, but what happened with giving me him 24 hours to chill instead? - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 18:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, though I doubt it. In my opinion, you can tell if someone is likely to edit constructively. It depends on what I think of the account. Were he to get another account and edit constructively I wouldn't block him. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 22:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Daz Sampson
Why have you been removing any negative comments from the Daz Sampson page? It seems you are connected to Stockport - are you connected to Sampson in some way or is it just a "Stockport Pride" thing? Either way, I don't think you have always acted to ensure a NPOV, why is rather poor for an admin. I would like to read your response before deciding what action, if any to take. Thank you. 81.19.57.146 09:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * That's preposterous 82.25.23.38 21:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Be more specific- if you're talking about adding references into the article about him looking like Ian Huntley, I'm not going to let that happen. That's the sort of stuff that could get Wikipedia sued. It's not encyclopedic. I don't mind criticisms in articles, they are essential is most cases, but I can't imagine anyone can put forward that Daz Sampson looks like a "famous" child murderer in a neutral manner. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 09:19, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your prompt response. Your comments are noted.81.19.57.146 11:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * He is systematically deleting anything remotely critical of Sampson or his song. I am compiling a list of the edits and comments he has made as part of a formal complaint.Daz Sampson 20:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I assume you're talking about me here, "Daz Sampson"? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:14, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I'm talking about Andrew Eldritch. Daz Sampson 20:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Very smart of you. It was a serious question and I ask that you treat it as such. Considering you dived right into the middle of a conversation in a totally random manner, it was a fair question. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * okDaz Sampson 20:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Juggernaut
Thanks for the offer of help re Juggernaut and the Tesco vandalism. Looking at the page history, it has happened about 30 times this month, quickly getting reverted by good wikipedians. --Oscarthecat 11:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Amerylis
heya just thought I'd drop by and see if you were around. hows you? Amerylis
 * Talk to me on MSN instead! :-P --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 18:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

WP:AfC
Hi! I see you've been working on Articles for creation/Today. I'm glad to see it, since that place is often neglected and I've had to neglect it myself recently. Are you aware of Articles for creation/Templates? They make responding to requests easier and quicker. Anyway, thanks for your time. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 10:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right, of course. Unfortunately, so many of them seem not-quite-applicable to the templates. Tearlach 00:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

potpourri
I was just wondering which Star Wars character you hav a crush on again: Yoda or Palpaltine?

Images
I started the Richard Carrier article a while back and it would be nice to include his photo - there is one on his amazon blog and IMDb database page - would I be allowed to upload and use this as fair use? Sophia 20:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sorting through the tags at WP:FAIR and seeing if I can find one that applies. I'll see if I can get back to you with an appropriate tag. If there is no tag, then it's more than likely not fair use. :-) --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * It's presumably copyrighted, so I'd saying using would be OK. If you include the article name in the parameter, then you'll be fine, I think. Please also provide a [|fair use rationale] if possible. Thanks! --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that - will do. Sophia  15:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

No, not an imposter.
With all due respect, please check your facts before labelling me as an imposter.

If you check User:nathanrdotcom, you'll see clearly "I am on Wikibreak and I may come back to make some small edits using a 207.112.* IP". If you check my IP, you'll see it matches. You could easily have checked my IP talk and noticed a bunch of comments signed as 'nathanrdotcom' (me) but you didn't do that either.

Thank you. — Nathan (talk) 20:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No... you misunderstand. I had a feeling that the IP was an impostor of you. It was an honest mistake on my part: your message was slightly aggressive (that's fine, I'm not criticisng it), and I've seen a lot of IPs put agressive, fake messages and sign using someone else's signature to try and get that person into trouble. I apologise, but it was an honest mistake. Surely you can understand that? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I was about to change my message to be more neutrally worded but you had already read it. :| I'll change it anyway, sorry.
 * I understand your point. That does happen, that's why I put a message on my userpage mentioning what IP I'd be using. I thought of that already. :P — Nathan (talk) 20:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I took the picture from trekweb with permmision
therefore I am overwhelmed.

a very unhappy...yet sad...cathytreks,

shalom (some people think im crazy, and they might be right, but at least I try to do good, im not a troll just a misunderstood and misunderstanding unit.) (Cathytreks 18:20, 27 May 2006 (UTC))


 * You don't need to defend yourself. I didn't accuse you of being anything. I just removed an image, and left a comment to help you understand why I did what I did. I replied properly at your talk page. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 18:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I was trying to put a cheery spin on it, my humour escapes many...im a goofy yet lovable girl... i bear no ill will, you have been kind to me. (Cathytreks 18:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC))bb

Now in GS deletion process
Hey there! I've begun the process of nominating and deleting those Golden Sun articles that I was talking about a while back, so now you can feel free to follow this link and cast a vote! Erik the Appreciator 19:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk page archive move
I wonder if you could help out. I want to move this talk page archive which I have just made to simply "Archive 1", but when I try to do it, I get a note saying "protected page". Thanks. Tyrenius 07:00, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * What I have done is moved it to Talk:Xeni Jardin/Archive 1. Normal practice is to use subpages for archives. Is this alright? :-) --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 09:33, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow, that archive already exists. I had to move it to Talk:Xeni Jardin/Archive 5 instead. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 09:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Motor pointed out to me that it was your talk page archive, not the Xeni Jardin talk page archive. Ooops! I gave Motor the instructions on how to fix it up. Thanks Motor! --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 14:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I've moved the page as suggested... would you mind double-checking yourself to make sure we're all straight now. Thanks. - Motor (talk) 12:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * All fixed thanks. Sorry for mix-up. My talk page ended up as a "neutral zone" for the Xeni Jardin talk at one stage. Tyrenius 14:48, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Obligatory note.
.--Sean Black 08:47, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Profile
Is it necessary to say everything about yourself (location, pictures, age, work place, school, health, driver's lisence number, etc)? I would be more concerned if you were female, but seriously, that is a lot of personal information. Colonel Marksman 15:21, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know. Are you advising I get rid of it? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 16:39, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Driver's license number? I see nothing particularly unsmart about the stuff you did mention. Have you deleted anything already? - Mgm|(talk) 12:56, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

No, I've changed nothing. I think the Colonel is just trying to illustrate his point. Anyway, if I was to delete personal information and wanted it kept off the records, I'd have to delete all the revisions on my user page. That seems a little over the top. I'm fine it the way it is to be honest, though I appreciate the point. By the way, I can't drive, never mind having a driving license! ;-) --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 12:59, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey there, thanks for reverting vandalism to my user page. Happy editing! SoLando (Talk) 13:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No problemo. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 13:59, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Great justice
Thanks; Maybe he just needs some time to cool off. That article doesn't exactly bring out the best in people. Not that you or anyone should be expected to put up with personnal attacks. Tom Harrison Talk 18:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * See my comments on WP:AN/3RR. Are we dealing with a reincarnation of a banned user? AnnH ♫ 18:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, "Great Justice" also repeatedly reverted all the edits I tried to make to the Moon Hoax page, as if it were his private property. - Reaverdrop (talk/nl/wp:space) 20:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Deskana! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Xyra e l  T 20:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Seems like a pretty cool tool. Thanks! --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Protected template
I was testing a new design. Apologies for that, Deskana. --Sunholm(talk)  21:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... OK, well there are more appropriate places to do it. Such as Sandbox. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

The delightful User:Macedonia
Hey man, I've reverted your edit for now. If you could bear with us for another 6 hours it will be sorted one way or another. Feel free to re-blank, but I'd urge you to leave a note on here if you do so. Thanks :) - FrancisTyers 10:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine then. Perhaps I was being hasty but I find it difficult to deal with that user. I've blocked him several times for 3RR violations and I've had about enough of him. But I'll wait. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 11:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Image help please!
Hi Dan - could you sugget a tag I can use for this image? The site I got it from doesn't mention any copyright and it's a very well known carving in loads of books so I doubt if it's image can be copyrighted at all. Thanks. Sophia 19:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem isn't with the fair use tag you've chosen, it's with the fact that there is no fair use rationale on the image page. Basically, you're saying it's fair use but not explaining why you think that.
 * Either way, I think might apply here. Check it out! That seems more "common knowledge" than anything else. PD images like that don't really require a rationale. I somehow doubt that something like that is copyrighted. I'll see if I can find a better tag than . --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 19:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You could try though I am unsure of the validity of that- I know the author died more than 100 years ago but it doesn't seem quite right to me.
 * It's Egyptian, right? You could try contacting WikiProject Ancient Egypt, and speak to them. They stand more chance of knowing what sort of tag the image should have. You have seven days before any admin can delete that image so you're pretty safe for time. Hope this helps. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 19:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Ta everso - will contact the Egypt project. Sophia  19:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

George Double-Jerk Bush
Hi! I was wondering about how much time my add needed to be detected. It's what I call pseudo-vandalism. Say, vandalism that do not make any harm to the article... I could not prevent myself to communicate in some way how jerk can be this guy, and sought for a metod that did not turning myself into a Wikipedia vandal. Did you vote him? Are you angry? Let me know... User:Attilios
 * Of course I'm not angry. The above response to my query on your talk page is presented in a calm, civil manner. But I tell you this much- your addition to the article is totally inappropriate. Please don't do it again. And regarding your questions about voting for him, I'm English. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Michelangelo and Raphael
Ha! Blair is an idiot and corrupted, but at least is not a jerk. I hope at least some American people could have been enlightened about the guy they have voted. As for serious things, the former two articles are frequently vandalized (at least 1/2 times a day, especially Michelangelo. Can I ask you to semi-protect them, or at least explain me a reasonable way to arrive to the semiprotection? Thanks. User:Attilios 20:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC) P.S.:you're at least the 3rd people today that asks me to use the "~" for autodating. What's the problem if I sign manually? Anyway, the explaination is: Italian keyboards do not have this key, that's why. I think it was not so a fine choose for Wikipedia, being it not on all keyboards in the world. Ciao!!!
 * WP:SIG is the guideline that explains this. While you don't have to sign using four tildes, you will probably find yourself being constantly asked to use them! Anyway, about those articles, sprotection should be used as a last resort. There's not enough vandalism to justify locking new and anonymous editors out from editing the page based on the vandalism. Page protection requests are normally handled at WP:RfPP though you are welcome to consult administrators individually if you want to. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstarring
Friend! Don't worry... I'm behaving quite crazily tonite as today I devoted all the day to all the most boring tasks... writing templates, countering vandalism, checking typical English bad translations from Italian etc. etc. ... Finding myself tired and lazy, I started to do silly and write things. Good work!!! User:Attilios

P.S.: but CAN you explain why DO people ASK me to sign with the tildes? I cannot explain myself why, sincerely. See you soon.

P.P.S.: it seems you're haunting me a bit? Is there around a reward over me? Or are you falling a bit in love with me?


 * Did you read WP:SIG as I suggested? It's all there. It's so that your edits are timed and dated, mainly. And I'm not denying you're doing good work, it's just you seem to be missing the point. You're not really supposed to do work expecting to get a barnstar out of it. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

peteg913
It's finished peteg913 01:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hardly seems it. YOUR DESCRIPTION OF THE USER. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 01:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't understand? peteg913 01:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

This discussion was regarding: Requests for adminship/Peteg913. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 01:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

RFA semiprotection
I've brought it up at WT:RFA, cheers. NSL E (T+C) at 01:21 UTC (2006-06-04)
 * And I have already responded there. Hahaha... I think we're following each other around. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 01:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Hganesan
Thank you for stepping into the discussion earlier on AN/I. User:Sceptre blocked User:Hganesan earlier today but I have a suspicion that User:Bucsrsafe is a sockpuppet of his. Sceptre added an entry to RFCU to research this, but Sceptre does not have access to Checkuser. I am hoping that you do and that you will take an interest in this case. There is a fair amount of history here (over 3 weeks now) and I am concerned that once the immediate admin interest dies down, he will simply wait out his block and return to his old behavior. Thanks again for any help you can provide. Simishag 03:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm a fairly new admin. Not very many users have checkuser access, certainly not new admins. Sorry. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 22:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image
I took the screenshot myself.

What do I do?

peteg913 16:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * You need to specify the source program. Unless you made the program, it is likely not copyrighted with no rights reserved. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 16:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You stole my thunder!
There was a backlog (30 unattended requests) when I started working my way through it this afternoon; I was waiting until I had everything handled before I took down the backlog banner, and you came and stole my thunder! :( *wanders off to cry on the checkuser console* Essjay ( Talk  • Connect  ) 20:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you should warn me. . --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Exactly! ZOMG THUNDER-STEALER-BACKLOG-TAG-REMOVER-ROGUE-EDITOR-TYPE-PERSON! ;D Essjay ( <font color="#7b68ee">Talk  • <font color="#7b68ee">Connect  ) 22:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Now's when I run around shouting "ADMIN ABUSE! DESYSOP ESSJAY NOW!" right? :-D --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 22:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Do you really want to use that line? So *many* people have wanted me desysopped...be unique, ask for me to be beaten with a wet squirrel or a rabid beaver... ;) <font color="#7b68ee">Essjay <font color="#7b68ee">( <font color="#7b68ee">Talk  • <font color="#7b68ee">Connect  ) 23:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

FGJ
Hi... I think 24h was probably appropriate; but if you feel strongly about 72, feel free to apply that instead William M. Connolley 20:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Nah. I was reading through WP:3RR and it seemed to indicate that you should block every user for 24 hours for violations of 3RR. I'm slightly confused, as this seems contradictory to the way everything else works... can you use your 3RR wisdom to explain? Cause you're like Mr 3RR. Compliment, I assure you! :-) --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, well, literal reading of the 3RR says pretty clearly blocks of up to 24h. But also pretty obviously people get blocked for longer (oddly enough, with all the wiki-lawyering that goes on elsewhere, no-one ever complains about this...). However this only seems to occur (and I only do it) after 3-4+ 24h blocks; or some especially egregious behaviour. Such as returning from a block and reverting immeadiately :-) So I nearly gave him 48h myself. Hope that helps. William M. Connolley 21:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Great, thanks for that. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 14:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Lol no you aren't an idiot...
...see the discussion just a few headers up on that page. =D Syrthiss 14:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Proclaimed sockpuppetry
What do you think about this type of stuff? Please have a look at my usertalk page and my post to WP:ANI. Thanks.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hahaha... for a minute I thought you were saying that someone said I was using sockpuppets. Perhaps my guilty conscience? Only kidding! Anyway, I've replied to your post on ANI but can't see the screenshot you're talking about. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 08:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's under "What do you suggest I do". the authenticity was confirmed by PS2pcGAMER, a fellow admin.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, got it. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 08:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

We clashed!
See this. I have unintentionally overruled you! As you know, when several admins block at the same time, or one after another, the block due to expire first is the one that "takes". If you want to unblock and reblock, feel free! By the way, I've been meaning to e-mail you, but I just never get round to it. Cheers. AnnH <b style="font-size:medium;">♫</b> 09:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Nah, I'm fine with that. I'm not too bothered about the block length really, just as long as it's a temporary time out.
 * Email me? What do you want to talk about? There's no rush, either way. :-) --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 09:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism!?!
Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from articles as it is considered vandalism. You may place hangon on the page and make your case on the article's talk page if you oppose an article's speedy deletion. Thanks. Yanksox 20:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Excuse me? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 20:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh dear...my apologies. I accidently meant to warn a user w/ puppet. How I got into your username baffles me. Wow, I'm not sure what happened. Sorry. :\ Yanksox 21:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It's cause I'm so marvelous! Hahaha... don't worry about it, I've done it before. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

yes, yes, yes
blocking an AOL user for daring to report vandalism by a registered user? yeah, I'm not sure if irony is the word you're thinking of--205.188.117.74 21:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I think complete nonsense would describe that WP:AIV report that (presumably you) made. I did check the contributions of the user and saw nothing of what you're talking about. Try having someone else on, next time. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism from registered user
Hi, Deskana, just a patronizing(!) message from a more experienced admin &mdash; in the case of vandalism, we normally block IPs for something like 24 hours, but we block newly-registered username accounts indefinitely when they're clearly vandalism-only accounts. The reason is that in the case of the IP, it might be a different person using it tomorrow, but in the case of a registered user, the account was created by a single individual with the intention of disrupting Wikipedia. An established user who unexpectedly does a bit of vandalism (perhaps while drunk) wouldn't be blocked indefinitely (unless the admin thought that the account had been hijacked), but that doesn't often happen. You blocked for 24 hours, while I was just about to block indefinitely. I won't overrule you, especially since I see you left a message on his talk page, telling him you had blocked for 24 hours. You might, on second thoughts, want to change it to indefinite, since all his edits were disruptive. But if you decide to leave it as 24 hours, could you keep an eye on his contributions when the block expires? Thanks. AnnH <b style="font-size:medium;">♫</b> 15:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hahaha... that crossed my mind. Last time I blocked an account like that indef someone moaned at me for not giving the user more of a chance. And a thought occured to me the other day- my first few edits were actually vandalism. I was warned by User:Francs2000, if I remember correctly, with a and stopped. I realise the blocking policy permits it... I'm a bit stuck as to what I think I should do, to be honest. And don't worry, you're not patronising at all, I appreciate more experienced admins chipping in with advice and opinions, just as I'd expect less experienced admins to think about things that I say. :-) --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 15:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)