User talk:Devil Goddess

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Devil Goddess

 * This account appears to be a returning user. Is that correct? If so, are any of hte user's previous accounts still blocked? If so, that would mean this account is improperly evading a block. Please explain. You may email me if you prefer to keep this confidential. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:55, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Please explain why you think that I am a returning user, and why you are not addressing this question to me directly. Devil Goddess (talk) 23:57, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I am directing the question to you, here on this account talk page. Since you haven't asked to keep this confidential, here are the reasons for my suspicions: 1) You not a new user. That's obvious by your familiarity with formatting and other details of editing Wikipedia. 2) You have edited 20 articles in common with blocked user:Skoojal. Skoojal was placed on an indefinite block in September. Skoojal has made several requests for unblock, indicating the desire to return to editing.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 00:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I apologize if I didn't understand that you were addressing the question to me: it wasn't entirely clear. In response to point 1) You can't know this. Anyone can read guidelines on how to edit before they start. In response to point 2) So what? These articles interest numerous people. This is a strange way to be treating an editor making clearly constructive and non-controversial edits. If you have a problem with any edit I've made, please tell me what it is and we can discuss this. Devil Goddess (talk) 00:08, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I am going to block this account as a sock evading a legitimate block. Please get user:Skoojal unblocked before making any further edits to this project. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 00:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You do not know that I am a sock. You are assuming this. It is not reasonable to block someone absent proof that they are a sock (the policy states, "If a person is found to be using a sock puppet, the sock puppet accounts may be blocked indefinitely" - doesn't say you can block for unproven suspicions). Devil Goddess (talk) 00:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You have not offered any alternative explanation, so the conclusion that fits the facts seems warranted. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 00:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Your reply does not appear to be based upon policy. The policy is that someone found, not suspected, of being a sock puppet can be blocked. Devil Goddess (talk) 00:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see you either denying being the same user as Skoojal, nor offering any explanation for your behavior being so similar to his. This account meets the "duck test": "if it quacks like a duck...." ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 00:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I am not denying being Skoojal because it is pointless and beneath my dignity. If for whatever reason you suspect me of something, I may not be able to convice you otherwise. There is nothing surprising about someone being interested in editing articles about gay subjects, nor anything wrong with them doing so. I have no idea what else you mean by my "behavior." Devil Goddess (talk) 00:34, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * WP:DUCK is an essay, and has no standing as policy. Again, I ask why you are treating someone making constructive edits this way? Devil Goddess (talk) 00:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * As someone who just randomly noticed Devil Goddess's submissions, and then looked at the history of his or her edits under the name Devil Goddess and Skoojal, I am dismayed to see what I consider harassment by Wikipedia administrators. This person is not writing anything malicious or inappropriate in any way -- the contributions appear to be solely in the interest of clarity, precision and intellectual balance.  I think the administrators are using their sockpuppet policy in a heavy-handed, abusive way against this individual, and I think they should stop it and let the person continue to contribute to the site. Damion (talk) 02:44, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you Damion, that's very kind of you. If you have anything more to say, however, it would be better to say it at user talk:Skoojal rather than here. Devil Goddess (talk) 07:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)