User talk:Devinutahjazz

=Título de Totonicapán‎=

There is a discussion about the various translations of this book on the article's talk page. You can get these on-line. The translation you quote seems to have taken liberties with this that aren't in the main-stream translations. You might be able to add some text mentioning that the Titulo is considered as evidence of the correctness of the BOM, but even that will probably be reverted as WP:FRINGE by other editors.

Non-Mormons regard the BOM as a hoax perpetrated by Joseph Smith Jr. They believe that Sidney Rigdon stole the manuscript of a novel by Solomon Spalding and plagiarized it to create the historical part of the BOM. There are Wikipedia articles about Solomon Spalding, Mormon attempts to find archaeological evidence for it, the Book of Abraham etc. Even if you don't believe what it says in these articles, you should read them because at some point you will encounter people that question your faith and you will want to know what they believe as well. Senor Cuete (talk) 15:54, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Senor Cuete, Thank you for your respectful response. I did not know that this translation took liberties with the source material. I need to read the "main-stream translations" you mentioned. I hope I did not offend you with this addition. This is the first edit I have ever made on Wikipedia and am not familiar with the proper etiquette. I am simply hoping to provide some information that some may find interesting. I am not trying to push my religion on anyone. Devinutahjazz


 * No worry. Some of the translations don't translate the name of the place of origin as the Seven Caves. This caused me to confused as well. The story of man emerging from the seven caves is the same as the one in Aztec mythology. The story about the priests returning from across the ocean is believed by the Mormons to show similarities between the Book of Mormon and the Titulo. It's hard to know how much of this actual history or mythology and whether the Titulo is influenced by the religion of the Spanish as stated in the article. You have opened the door to an interesting area of study that could take up a whole lifetime. It's been a while since I read this so I hope my recollection is correct. Senor Cuete (talk) 17:59, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I looked into this further. The Titulo is another version of the Maya creation story, the Popul Vuh. I'm unaware of an on-line English translation of the Titulo but the translations of the Popul Vu that I've seen don't mention Babylon or anything biblical. This would be a mater of interpretation. Senor Cuete (talk) 21:22, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I ordered the English translation of the Titulo. Perhaps you could post a link to the facts that you added to the article? Senor Cuete (talk) 17:21, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Some of what you added to the article is actually there. I'll add it to the article with links to the English translation Senor Cuete (talk) 20:03, 15 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Check out what I added to the article. More is coming. Senor Cuete (talk) 23:45, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

That is very cool. Devinutahjazz (talk) 16:03, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Please check out my recent revision of thre Titulo de totonicápan article. Senor Cuete (talk) 17:53, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Check out the latest revision of the Titulo article and correct what it says about the book of Lehi, if necessary. Senor Cuete (talk) 00:47, 26 November 2016 (UTC)