User talk:Dewlaylomo~enwiki/ban

Assuming your understanding of Cantonese, do you find this username: "user:Dewlaylomo" offensive ? -- User:kt2

Hi kt2. I would say the user name of user:Dewlaylomo is probably offensive to Cantonese speakers (including me) because it is similar to a common Cantonses curse phrase diu2 lei5 lou5 mou5 (which means 'having a sex with your mother'). --Lorenzarius 16:17 May 14, 2003 (UTC)


 * I have posted this problem in Village Pump under the heading Extremely Profane User Name. --Menchi 22:04 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

Lorenzarius, User:kt2, and I have discovered an extremely offensive user name: user:Dewlaylomo, which explicitly means "(go) fuck your aging mother" in Cantonese, a curse equivalent to "motherfucker". Mandarin has a similarly pronounced phrase as well. So it isn't just offensive to the Cantonese-speaking, it is offensive to all Chinese, unless s/he has a particularly unfeeling numb mind. This isn't just offensive to selective sensitive people.

As Scipius discovered, this user is at least a partial vandal. S/he replaced the American national flag with a skull and bones picture. (See User talk:Dewlaylomo)

This is unacceptable, period. We have a No offensive usernames policy. If this username is discovered by more Chinese, Wikipedia will be viewed as anti-Chinese. The only option is deletion of the account name. --Menchi 22:03 May 14, 2003 (UTC)


 * The user hasn't made any edits since January. If he comes back and does anything stupid, he will be promptly banned. If it bothers you much, you may want to edit the comments containing the offensive name. --Eloquence 22:06 May 14, 2003 (UTC)


 * So you are saying that Wikipedia is tolerant of people defaming the Chinese, so long as they do not presently do "something stupid" to a degree that will cause their banning, like Lir? As long as they be a nice little sheep, they can use any offensive name, to any degree, for as long as they like? Even when it "needlessly discouraging other contributors, and distracting from the core purpose"? --Menchi 22:13 May 14, 2003 (UTC)


 * I'm saying that the account appears to be dead, so what's the rumpus? Don't feed the trolls. They want attention. --Eloquence


 * 172.134.228.13 just posted on my Talk page saying that  Lir was banned because s/he accused Wikipedia of racism. Is this implying that because user  Dew did nothing major of that sort, s/he will be tolerated? That is exactly my point. Does one only get the attention of administrators when s/he is defamatory in action? How about a defamatory name, deliberately? The policy page explicitly stated "If enough people complain about your user name..., the administrators will change it." --Menchi 22:27 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

user:Dewlaylomo, has inserted a link to uglychinese.org. IMO his name is offensive on purpose. Ericd 22:53 14 May 2003 (UTC)

I too think that this name should in some way be removed. I'd be quite surprised if I was looking through a page's history and happened upon user:(go) fuck your aging mother. I agree that it's not urgent but I think if it's possible to rename it to Dew so that Dew appears in the edit histories then this task should be added to the bottom of a developers to-do list. -- Ams80 23:19 May 14, 2003 (UTC)


 * I like the way that the initial "is similar to" has morphed into "explicitly means". Chinese whispers rock! :) Martin 23:50 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

The following are the contributions that user:Dewlaylomo made: Red Army Faction -- I believe they vandalized this page by changing the word "faction" to "fraction." I can not tell for sure though without seeing if the user logged on using the ip 62.104.210.81. Monica Lewinsky -- Vandilized page by adding "She managed to push the NATO into a bombing raid against Milosevic's Yugoslavia by orally triggering the SOFT U.S presidential missile launcher." Psychology -- added vandalism about the weight of the Qur'an, illusions, etc German philosophy -- I can't tell at first glance if this is vandilism. It would be nice for someone who knows something about this subject to verify that the massive changes he made to this page are valid. Hungarian cuisine -- user:Dewlaylomo created this article, which was POV untill someone else fixed it. Genghis Khan -- added link to http://www.uglychinese.org/mongolian.htm in 4 places in the article and stated "Attention comrade. Please finish your Genghis article using the "uglychinese.org" link I provide"

These were the only changes user:Dewlaylomo made besides changes to thier user namespace. Considering that this users was obviously destructive, and the user name is considered offensive by some, this account should definately be banned/deleted &| moved/renamed. MB 02:23 May 15, 2003 (UTC)

Just back from work and nice to see my question to Loz has become a ban talk. IMO I always second Menchi and MB. This username should be banned for eternity based on the No offensive usernames policy, period. If s/he wants to contribute to the wikipedia community again, s/he must use a decent username. User:TUF-KAT is one brillant example. User:kt2 03:12 May 15, 2003

This user showed up for a week in January, didn't really contribute anything useful, and left (as most vandals do). I removed his name, and I don't expect him back. LDC


 * This page was deleted when the user was removed from all the history/contributions/... - I assume this was just a side effect, rather than a deliberate decision, so I've listed on votes for undeletion and restored it for the purposes of review. Martin 08:43 May 15, 2003 (UTC)

Regarding user:Dewlaylomo

I noticed that your page linked to my website, www.uglychinese.org/mongolian.htm, and came over for a look. I want to assure you guys that I, as the webmaster for my own website, never had come to wikipedia or asked anyone to come to wikipedia for any URL link work. I have no affiliation with Dewlaylomo or anybody else. My website represents solely my own opinions and perspectives.

As you guys all are aware, my studies and writings are purely academic. My writings on Genghis Khan and the Mongols were cited all over the globe. I have no need to do any publicity or propoganda of any nature.

For fellow Chinese countrymen, please read my translation of Li Hongzhang's poem at the bottowm of my website. You will only see a truly patriotic heart ready for doing anything for China and the Chinese people.

Confucius had a saying: Whoever knows shame is courageous. Hope you all get my point. That is what my website is about.

Ah Xiang