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Username
Your username seems to be backwards. All corn sugar is dextrose. However, not all dextrose is corn sugar. Dextrose was first identified over a century ago in grapes.

If you'd like to have your account renamed, then you can follow the instructions at Username policy. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * We, the corn allergy coalition, will be contacting all manufacturers of "dextrose" that advertise their products as "corn free." We want certification from these companies that the dextrose used in their products is derived from a food product other than corn.  Until then, we stand by our claim that dextrose can only be derived from corn.  Tapioca dextrose??  To those allergic to corn, we read this as "tapioca corn sugar."  The same for "brown rice dextrose."  We may have to conduct oral challenges of these products which will confirm if the dextrose is derived from a source other than corn.  We'll be sure to let you know of the results of our inquiries/oral challenges of the products (if necessary).DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 01:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Weights
Just a quick FYI - dextrose (and indeed glucose) both have the molecular formula C6H12O6 and the formula weight 180.156g/mol. The dextrose you describe as weighing 198.17g/mol is dextrose plus water (C6H14O7 though really it's C6H12O6 and H2O). It's correct chemical name is dextrose monohydrate, the monohydrate indicating that only one water molecule is bound to the sugar. Glucose monohydrate has the exact same formula and mass. Nick (talk) 21:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your feedback. This is a matter that I am addressing with the FDA and the NIH National Library of Medicine; e.g., how can they equate two distinct forms of sugar (one natural, glucose; the other manufactured from cornstarch, dextrose) as identical? This would mean that corn sugar manufactured from cornstarch (dextrose) would have to be specifically synthesized to have the same molecular formula as blood sugar (glucose). My concern raised with these organizations is: How can two distinct forms of sugar be molecularly identical when blood sugar (glucose) cannot provoke an allergic response, whereas corn sugar manufactured from cornstarch (dextrose) can prove fatal to anyone with an IgE-mediated allergy to corn?DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 19:49, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * One more thought about this issue:

If you enter molecular formula C6H12O6 into the PubChem database, it doesn't reference glucose (blood sugar); but, instead, directs the reader to a dextrose (corn sugar) formulation. So they are equating corn sugar (dextrose) with dextrose (corn sugar). 


 * Here's the million-dollar question: What is the actual molecular formula for blood sugar that is present in all living organisms (glucose)? It can't be C6H12O6. I don't have dextrose (corn sugar manufactured from cornstarch) in my body, but I do have glucose (natural blood sugar) in my body. This is the question I am seeking to resolve with the FDA and the NIH National Library of Medicine.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 20:23, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's been a long time since I last took a chemistry class, but if memory serves, the difficulty with chemical molecular formulas such as C6H12O6 is that there can be multiple ways of arranging the atoms. It's sort of like Pentomino (which elementary school math teachers like to call a "game", but I'm not sure that the students always agree):  all of the pieces have five squares, but you can arrange five squares into 18 different shapes.  So these two sugars could have the same number of atoms in them, without being precisely identical.


 * My concern here is that many published articles actually claim that glucose (blood sugar) and dextrose (corn sugar) are "biochemically identical."DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 03:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * (Your blood hopefully has more kinds of sugars in it than just glucose. Glucose is the one that gets tested for diabetes, but there are multiple natural sugars that are readily absorbed into the bloodstream, plus other, more complex, sugars that the body makes.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:15, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I researched the number of natural sugars present in the human body; however, I could only find one (glucose).

This is an interesting article by the American Heart Association addressing types of sugars.

"There are two types of sugars in American diets: naturally occurring sugars and added sugars. Naturally occurring (emphasis added) sugars are found naturally in foods such as fruit (fructose) and milk (lactose).

Keep in mind that if the product has no fruit or milk products in the ingredients, all of the sugars in the food are from added sugars. If the product contains fruit or milk products, the total sugar per serving listed on the label will include added and naturally occurring sugars."

Note that they list dextrose as an "added sugar;" therefore, dextrose would not be "naturally" present in the human body. DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 03:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * , glucose is a particular hexose sugar molecule with the formula C6H12O6. It has two "isomers" - a dextro form and a levo form - based on which way the molecule will "rotate" a ray of light that is shot through it. The term "dextrose" refers specifically to the "dextrorotary" form of glucose, whereas glucose ideally refers to a racemic mixture - equal parts levo and dextro. D-glucose (dextrose) is the only significant form of glucose circulating in the blood - L-glucose (or levo-glucose) is not naturally produced in meaningful quantities. Just a background for you if it helps - I'm no longer going to entertain this user personally - but I figured I could at least provide an explanation for you. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 00:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Read these links
This is a nice, simple page about how much dextrose is present in some different kinds of plain, raw fruit: https://healthfully.com/494223-what-fruits-are-good-in-dextrose.html

This is a century-old science journal talking about the discovery of dextrose in grapes: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_American_Food_Journal/kynnAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=dextrose  (page 23)

This is a modern dictionary for dentists that talks about where dextrose can be found naturally: https://books.google.com/books?id=uK5Gkzs-DfQC&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT280&dq=dextrose+naturally&hl=en#v=onepage&q=dextrose%20naturally&f=false

Here is a simple website that talks about non-corn sources of commercially prepared dextrose: http://www.tapiocadextrose.com/

This is the actual FDA definition of dextrose: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?CFRPart=168&showFR=1  Notice that their definition of dextrose is different from https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=184.1857 which is their definition of corn sugar. If dextrose and corn sugar were exactly the same thing according to the FDA, then the words in the FDA's definitions for those two things would be identical, right? But they're not identical, because corn isn't the only source of dextrose in the world.

I'd like to help you get accurate information into Wikipedia, but so far, you seem to be working from a serious misunderstanding of the facts. Most commercially prepared dextrose (in our market, at this point in time) comes from corn, but that doesn't mean that corn is the only possible source. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you so very much for your feedback. In answer to your statement, a wholesale supplier of "tapioca dextrose" is mailing me a sample to conduct an oral challenge.  I will know within 20 minutes if the dextrose is derived from corn.  If I react, I will file an adverse reaction report with the FDA and the applicable department of health to report false advertising of the product as "tapioca dextrose" vs. "tapioca corn sugar."  In addition, I submitted an inquiry to the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition today addressing this issue, since "tapioca dextrose" is not listed on the FDA's Food Additive Status List.   I've also sent inquiries to other wholesalers/food manufacturers requesting a written guarantee that their "tapioca dextrose" is sourced specifically from tapioca for the safety of corn-allergic consumers/patients. I provided each with the Code of Federal Regulation 21CFR184.1857, since it appears they may be erroneously equating glucose (blood sugar present in all living organisms) with corn sugar (dextrose), particularly Mike's Mix Tapioca Dextrose (email, tweet, and phone call). DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 18:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Natural sugars vs. refined (manufactured) sugars.
Please understand that glucose (blood sugar) has been erroneously equated with dextrose (corn sugar) for decades, which was initiated by the corn industry. The corn allergy coalition of over 12K members is working very hard to right this wrong for the safety of all citizens diagnosed with an allergy to corn. The references cited in the articles you listed are obtained from sources that are also oblivious to the critical difference between these two distinct forms of sugar (one natural; one manufactured). We even had to forward an urgent appeal to Baxter Healthcare Ltd, since corn sugar (dextrose) IV fluids sold outside of the United States are mislabeled as “glucose.” The majority of medical professionals don’t understand this critical difference, which is why there have been so many medication errors in administering dextrose (corn sugar) IV fluids to corn-allergic patients. We are also contacting the writers of all articles who are also erroneously equating blood sugar (glucose) with corn sugar (dextrose).

The following article by Carl R. Fellers, Ph.D., F.A.P.H.A., confirms that corn sugar is dextrose and dextrose is corn sugar.

“DEXTROSE or refined corn sugar is a relatively new sweetening and preserving agent in the food industries. It was not until 1922 that Newkirk made possible the commercial manufacture of dextrose by his special crystallization process. Refined dextrose is made by converting highly purified starch with hydrochloric acid. Anhydrous dextrose is prepared by recrystallization of the hydrated dextrose, ground very fine and heated to 600C. to remove the molecule of water of crystallization. This is the form of dextrose used for intravenous injections and in various pharmaceutical and medicinal preparations.” 

Grape sugar is produced from grapes, not dextrose (corn sugar).

"In grapes, a large portion of the soluble solid is sugars. Glucose and fructose are the main sugars in the juice." 

Glucose is blood sugar (natural), and is the "main sugar that the body manufactures [and] serves as the major source of energy for living cells." 

Dextrose is a refined (manufactured) sugar; therefore, it's impossible for dextrose to be found naturally in any food, drug, or biologic product. 

“The Difference Between Natural and Unnatural Sugars” 

“Some specific examples of FDA’s definition of added sugars include: agave nectar brown rice syrup brown sugar coconut sugar glucose* sugar fructose* honey invert sugar lactose* maltose* corn syrup sucrose* maple sugar molasses nectars raw sugar dextrose malt sugar rice syrup high-fructose corn syrup white granulated sugar '''Note that dextrose is not categorized as a "natural sugar." It is an “added sugar;” therefore, it cannot be found naturally in any food, drug, or biologic product.''' 
 * also naturally occurring sugars founds in whole foods”

“Fruit contains natural sugars, which are a mix of sucrose, fructose and glucose.” Note: No mention of dextrose, because it is a manufactured sugar. 

“Fruit contains three types of sugar: fructose, glucose, and a combination of the two, called sucrose, which makes up table sugar.” Note: No mention of dextrose (corn sugar), because it is not a natural sugar found in fruit. 

“Sugar, in all forms, is a simple carbohydrate that the body converts into glucose and uses for energy. But the effect on the body and your overall health depends on the type of sugar you’re eating, either natural or refined. Natural sugars are found in fruit as fructose and in dairy products, such as milk and cheese, as lactose. Foods with natural sugar have an important role in the diet of cancer patients and anyone trying to prevent cancer because they provide essential nutrients that keep the body healthy and help prevent disease.” 

“It’s true that whole fruit contains sugar, but it is natural sugar.” Note that dextrose is not a natural sugar; therefore, it cannot be found naturally in any fruit. 

“There’s a very important difference between sugar in its natural form (i.e. the sugar in fruit, the way nature intended) and industrial sugars, such as table sugar, sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup. They all have very different effects on the body. In other words, the sugar in fruit is not the same as added sugars.” Note that dextrose is a manufactured, added sugar; therefore, it cannot be found naturally in fruit. DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 00:12, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

September 2020
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My sole purpose on Wikipedia is the protect the lives of corn-allergic consumers and patients.
I wish to extend my heartfelt appreciation to all of the contributors to this thread for the utmost kindness and respect you have afforded me related to my advocacy efforts on behalf of individuals diagnosed with an IgE-mediated allergy to corn.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 05:00, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Related to that, I wonder whether you could find a source for me about the historical discrimination against corn allergy, e.g., the doctors who said for years that nobody could be allergic to corn.
 * To make such a claim "bulletproof", it'd be best to have a fairly recent academic source (or even a couple of them). WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Shortly after I was diagnosed with an IgE-mediated allergy to corn, I had to conduct my own research about navigating this allergy; because my allergist and primary care physician indicated they couldn't advise me. Before he retired from FARRP (Food Allergy Research and Resource Program), Steven Taylor, Ph.D. (an academic) told me in our telephone conversation that "There is no such thing as an allergy to corn." When I explained to him that I had just been diagnosed with an IgE-mediated allergy to corn, he dismissed the findings of my allergist (my allergy was confirmed via oral challenges and skin-prick tests). This was an academic dismissing the diagnosis of a medical doctor. I then joined one of the Facebook corn allergy support groups. Since corn is ubiquitous and is exempt from FDA labeling requirements, I never could have survived this allergy without the support of the group. There are now over 12K members in these groups, which is more than double the number of members in sesame seed allergy support groups.

The testimonies from our members are literally heartbreaking in their daily struggle to navigate this allergy -- particularly those who are anaphylactic to corn, and from members who can't even drink their own tap water due to corn-derived water purification chemicals. But the most heartbreaking testimonies are from parents of corn-allergic infants due to the fact that there are no commercially-manufactured corn-free infant formulas. Some of these parents have had to resort to nourishing these struggling babies with milk from goats or camels.

Many members have testified that some allergists actually refused to test them for a suspected allergy to corn, indicating that "corn is hypoallergenic" or "there is no such thing as an allergy to corn." Their corn allergies were confirmed after seeking a second opinion.

Our primary fear is hospitalization with this allergy, since hospitals are ill-equipped to treat/nourish corn-allergic patients. We are currently required to supply our own previously-prepared corn-free foods, fluids, and medications (if compounding is required to exclude corn-derived excipients). This raises a critical concern: What if our hospitalization was due to an emergency? In addition, we have to carry corn allergy documentation with us at all times to present to medical staff; since many have no idea that Lactated Ringer's w/dextrose is contraindicated for corn-allergic patients (we can only tolerate straight saline-only IV fluids).

By the way, a company is sending me a complimentary sample of "tapioca dextrose." I will know within 20 minutes if the product contains corn-derived ingredients. I've also contacted companies selling "brown rice dextrose" to conduct an oral challenge. I would never advise anyone to conduct an oral challenge of their allergen unless in their presence of their physician. Although my reactions to corn are quite severe, I'm not (yet) anaphylactic to it, and I have epinephrine pens on hand due to my other allergies. Anyway, I wanted to thank you for bringing the "tapioca dextrose" and "brown rice dextrose" to my attention. It is my hope that I pass these oral challenges without an allergic response.

Again, my sole purpose for contributing to these threads if for the safety of my fellow corn-allergy members which include many nurses, one retired physician, and a pharmacist. The pharmacist has authorized me to post his/her testimony anonymously.

"I’m a pharmacist who works in community practice. Earned my doctorate in 2007. We don’t learn hardly anything about the sources of inactive ingredients in school. I would never have known that so many meds have corn and corn derivatives in them unless my son had been diagnosed with FPIES in 2015. I would venture to say only a handful of other pharmacists nationwide are aware of this particular issue." - Pharmacist

Thank you very much for your kind concern for the plight of corn-allergic individuals.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 21:01, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * It sounds like what we need is something – maybe a recent medical school textbook? – that says, in effect, "Medicine used to think that corn allergy didn't exist, but now we know that it is real". WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:21, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

In response to your question:

One source to document the increase in corn allergies would be compounding pharmacies. Many of the 12K+ members in our corn allergy support groups require their medications be compounded to exclude corn-derived excipients. I believe this documentation could be obtained from the FDA, since they are responsible for auditing compounding pharmacies.

My state FDA representative encouraged me to calculate corn allergy statistics based on membership in one corn allergy support group representing a "sample population" (the same method used in conducting allergy studies). I have been calculating monthly corn allergy statistics since March, 2016 (341.7% increase). As of August, 2020, there has been a 957.5% increase in corn allergies.

I acquired an allergy to corn in July, 2008; however, I wasn't diagnosed until December, 2011. This is due to the fact that since corn is ubiquitous and is exempt from FDA labeling requirements, food journals will never reveal an allergy to corn. I suffered daily with this allergy for 3 1/2 years before receiving a definitive diagnosis. So this raises another concern; e.g., how many other people are experiencing allergic reactions to corn; however, they cannot identify the source of their reactions due to the lack of labeling requirements?

These are corn allergy symptoms gathered from our corn allergy group members. If you, yourself, are experiencing any of these symptoms, you may also have an undiagnosed allergy to corn.


 * Abdominal pain/distention
 * Anaphylaxis
 * Asthma
 * Brain fog
 * Breathing difficulties
 * Bronchial swelling
 * Chest pain
 * Chest tightness
 * Confusion
 * Coughing often repetitive
 * Cramps
 * Depression
 * Diarrhea
 * Digestive issues
 * Dizziness
 * Dry mouth
 * Dry skin and dry patches
 * Eczema
 * Elevated pulse rate
 * Exhaustion, needing to sleep for days at a time
 * Feelings of impending doom
 * Fainting spells and light-headedness
 * Flushed skin that turns into extremely pale skin
 * Gas
 * Headaches
 * Hives
 * Hoarse voice
 * Indigestion
 * Itchy throat - at the back
 * Itchy eyes
 * Itchy nose
 * Itchy skin
 * Itchy tongue
 * Lethargy
 * Lips swell slightly
 * Low heart rate
 * Metallic taste in the mouth
 * Migraines
 * Nasal congestion
 * Nausea
 * Nonsensical speech
 * Pain in sinuses
 * Pain in the bridge of the nose
 * Pounding heart
 * Rashes
 * Runny nose
 * Sensing that something is wrong with your body
 * Skin blisters
 * Shortness of breath
 * Sneezing
 * Stuffy nose
 * Suddenly becoming too warm or occasionally feeling too cold
 * Swelling and inflammation with pain in hands and feet
 * Tachycardia
 * Throat feels like it is closing
 * Tingling hands
 * Tingling mouth
 * Tongue may become swollen
 * Vomiting
 * Weakness
 * Weak pulse
 * Wheezing

Since corn is exempt from FDA labeling requirements, allergic reactions to corn are currently categorized as "idiopathic." For example, anaphylactic reactions and deaths have been reported to Vitamin K1 injections. There are no contraindication warnings for this drug, even though it contains dextrose. So reactions/deaths to this injection would be categorized as "idiopathic;" when, in fact, they may be the result of an allergic reaction to corn.

With the exception of Lactated Ringer's w/dextrose IV fluids, contraindication warnings are not currently required on any drug or biologic products based upon the "source" of excipients; therefore, allergic reactions to these drugs would also be classified as "idiopathic." The majority of drug/biologic products contain corn-derived excipients. These allergic reactions may be the result of an allergy to corn.

Special-interest influence can also suppress corn allergy statistics. The majority of the national allergy associations claim that corn allergies are rare (even though I forward corn allergy statistics/documentation to these organizations monthly). If they receive funding from the corn/grain industries, this could influence the narrative addressing corn allergies. Why is it that some allergists refuse to test a patient for a suspected allergy to corn requiring a second opinion?

Some allergists don’t include corn on their standard panel of testing; e.g., my own allergist didn’t test me for a corn allergy in March, 2011. It was only after conducting a rigid food elimination diet, that I finally suspected an allergy to corn (I had a severe allergic reaction to iodized salt, which was confirmed by Morton’s to contain dextrose). My allergy to corn was finally confirmed in December, 2011.

I have been a full-time corn allergy advocate for nearly seven years. My advocacy work is a labor of love, and is free from bias or special-interest influence; e.g., I have no advertisers, and will never accept or solicit donations for this effort. All associated expenses are borne by me, personally, to guarantee no special-interest influence. However, I realize I am not allowed to share any of my work on Wikipedia; therefore, I cannot provide any links associated with my work on this platform; e.g., I have many published corn allergy studies on my blog, but cannot share that link in this thread. Corn allergy statistics could easily be extrapolated from these corn allergy studies to reveal that corn allergies, in fact, do exist; and can result in anaphylactic reactions.

Here is a link to one of these studies:

"Maize food allergy: a double-blind placebo-controlled study." Journal of the British Society for Allergy and Clinical Immunology, 38:12 2008 Dec pg 1943-9:

Important excerpts:

"The number of studies that address IgE mediated maize allergy is all too few."

"Maize is a cause of IgE-mediated allergic reactions to foods in adults and children. Nearly half of the subjects recruited were confirmed by challenge to be allergic to maize. Twenty-three percent of the positive challenge patients manifested symptoms that involved two organ systems, thus fulfilling the criteria for maize induced anaphylaxis. Maize is allergenic and can pose a risk for symptomatic food allergy at a dose of 100 mg." 

It's been a pleasure conversing with you.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 00:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * One of the things that stood out in your comment here is "food journals will never reveal an allergy to corn". Why do you think that US laws about ingredient labels would constrain academic journals from all over the world? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your kind reply. Food journals (also referred to as food diaries) are recommended for people who are trying to avoid/determine their allergens.   I kept a detailed food journal of everything I ate and drank for two years in an attempt to identify the food that was causing my reactions.  Due to the fact that corn is exempt from FDA labeling requirements, my food journal did not reveal my allergy to corn.  I only discovered it after conducting a process referred to as a food elimination diet. DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 19:13, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I understand now! I was thinking of academic journals, since there are academic journals for food science.  Another potentially confounding factor is the overlap.  One of those sources said that one corn allergen is very similar to a common peach allergen.  This suggests that people might be allergic to more than one thing, so you think you've found "it", and then you wonder why getting off peaches doesn't solve all your problems.


 * I have a physician-confirmed IgE-mediated allergy to corn; however, I am not allergic to peaches.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 03:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Perhaps of more urgency, have you talked to your doctor about your plan to try the tapioca dextrose? Are you sure that you aren't allergic to tapioca as well? WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * You definitively declared that tapioca dextrose is not corn; therefore, I am placing my full trust and faith in your expertise on this subject. I had tapioca pudding (made from scratch using tapioca pearls) this evening. Thankfully, I am not allergic to tapioca.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 03:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Here's another important corn allergy study:

"Maize/Corn," Thermo Scientific, 2012

Important Excerpts:

"Zea m 14, a lipid transfer protein, has also been isolated from Maize flour. Skin reactivity and IgE antibodies to this allergen were detected in 19 of 22 patients (86%) with systemic symptoms following the ingestion of Maize, confirming this as the Maize major allergen . . ."

"IgE-mediated reactions Maize may moderately often sensitise or induce symptoms of food allergy in sensitised individuals (7,15,31,34-37). Allergic symptoms reported have included abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, rhinitis, asthma, angioedema, atopic dermatitis, and anaphylaxis."

"Maize has been implicated as one of the causative foods of eosinophilic esophagitis, a disorder with symptoms suggestive of gastroesophageal reflux disease but unresponsive to conventional reflux therapies (58)." DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 01:00, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

'''Additional corn allergy studies/documentation: '''

"ALLERGIC REACTIONS FOLLOWING THE INTRAVENOUS INJECTION OF CORN SUGAR (DEXTROSE)" 

"Double-blind, placebo-controlled corn challenge resulting in anaphylaxis," The Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology, April, 2001, Volume 107, Issue 4, Page 744 

"Maize pollen is an important allergen in occupationally exposed workers," J Occup Med Toxicol, 2011; 6:32, US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health 

“Corn Maize Gluten Causes Antibody Response in Celiac Patients,” Dr. Peter Osborne, Gluten Free Society, Clin Chim Acta. 1991 Dec 31;204(1-3):109-22 

"IgE-mediated allergy to corn: a 50 kDa protein, belonging to the Reduced Soluble Proteins, is a major allergen." Pasini G et al. IgE-mediated allergy to corn: a 50 kDa protein, belonging to the Reduced Soluble Proteins, is a major allergen. Allergy. 2002 Feb;57(2):98-106 

"Maize food allergy: lipid-transfer proteins, endochitinases, and alpha-zein precursor are relevant maize allergens in double-blind placebo-controlled maize-challenge-positive patients." Pastorello EA et al. Maize food allergy: lipid-transfer proteins, endochitinases, and alpha-zein precursor are relevant maize allergens in double-blind placebo-controlled maize-challenge-positive patients. Anal Bioanal Chem. 2009 Sep;395(1):93-102. 

"RACIAL DIFFERENCES IN FOOD ALLERGY PHENOTYPE AND HEALTH CARE UTILIZATION AMONG US CHILDREN," Published online: November 22, 2016, American Academy of Allergy Asthma & Immunology (AAAAI) "In a study published in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology: In Practice, Mahdavinia and colleagues conducted a large, retrospective cohort study of children ages 0 to 17 years with food allergy seen in Allergy/Immunology clinics at two urban tertiary care centers in the US. The objective of this study was to characterize disease phenotypes and disparities in healthcare utilization among African-American (AA), Hispanic, and White children with food allergy.

The cohort of 817 children was composed of 35% AA, 12% Hispanic, and 53% non-Hispanic Whites. Compared with non-Hispanic White children, AA children had significantly higher rates of having asthma and eczema, and significantly higher rates of allergy to wheat, soy, corn (emphasis added), fish and shellfish. Hispanic children had significantly higher rates of allergy to corn (emphasis added), fish and shellfish, and higher rates of having eczema, but similar rate of asthma. There was a significant difference in insurance type by race/ethnicity with 55%, 18%, and 11% of AA, Hispanic, and White children covered by Medicaid, respectively. Compared with Whites, AA and Hispanic children had shorter duration of follow up for FA with allergy specialist and higher rates of FA-related anaphylaxis and ER visits."

Dermatitis herpetiformis exacerbated by cornstarch "Thus both animal model and human challenge experiments support the concept that corn (maize) may cause relevant antibodies and inflammation of gut mucosa in celiac disease; however, we are not aware of previous reports of DH provoked by corn and proven by rechallenge." 

"The maize major allergen, which is responsible for food-induced allergic reactions, is a lipid transfer protein." 

"High IgE sensitization to maize and rice pollen in the highlands of Madagascar" 

Corn allergy more prevalent than rice and peanut allergies? "Furthermore, corn allergy, rice allergy and peanut allergy were 1.02, 0.87 and 0.73 %, respectively." 

". . . cornstarch can act as an ingestant allergen, rather to the surprise of the investigating physicians." Mary Hewitt Loveless, Allergy for Corn and Its Derivatives, The Journal of Allergy, [date unknown], 500-509 DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 13:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * It’s quite clear you haven’t even read these articles and sources you cite, because some of them explicitly say a sugar molecule is not the antigen that causes corn allergy, but it is instead a protein in the corn. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 18:37, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your contribution to this thread. Corn sugar manufactured from cornstarch (dextrose) does contain corn protein; e.g., I suffer severe allergic reactions after consuming only a few grains of iodized salt which contains dextrose (corn sugar).  Even if the food protein is removed, it does not guarantee the allergen is hypoallergenic.


 * In addition, strict avoidance of one's allergen is always advised.    DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 19:38, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not how immune reactions work though. Immune reactions are to specific molecules/moities - not to a generic thing like "corn". I encourage you to look at the articles you linked - the articles specify that the corn allergy is due to specific proteins and pollen in maize/corn. If there is none of that protein/pollen present, then it is not allergenic, even if it is derived from corn. I will repeat what's been said before - dextrose is defined as "dextrorotary glucose" - not "corn sugar" as you claim. You are attempting to change the English language - and that's not what Wikipedia is for. I've explained this to you before - you don't get to just redefine a word because you want to and it suits your agenda. I will no longer be replying to you on this subject as you've been given the answer by multiple people multiple times. Wikipedia is not the place for you to redefine a word because you disagree with its meaning, nor is it the place for you to perform "activism" against "corn sugar" or "special-interest influence". It's also clear here that you have a conflict of interest with the topic of corn/dextrose/allergies - and it is not recommended for people to edit in areas where they have a potential conflict of interest. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - if you do not intend to begin helping write an encyclopedia, you may wish to stop editing now or you risk being blocked for being not here to build an encyclopedia. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 20:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * P.s. - it's clear that you are a very good writer and that you can actually find good sources for things - maybe consider taking some time editing articles outside the corn/glucose/dextrose/allergy topic for a while? Find something else that interests you, but that you don't have a strong opinion on - as an example, maybe you're interested in trains, or boating, or aviation, or weather... etc. That will allow you to work with others and learn the policies more, after which time I think you'll realize why your desired outcome here is not in line with Wikipedia guidelines - but if you still think after learning the ropes elsewhere that this is a necessary thing, you will be in a much better position to make a clear, concise argument as to why, and you'll have the policy/guideline knowledge to back it up. It's the same as why we don't let people "play the stock market" when they have "insider information" - they will have motives for the stock market that are alternative to its original purpose. If you can tell me another topic area you may be interested in editing, I'm happy to help you find some articles that need improvement - there's over 6 million articles and less than 1% of them are of the desired "featured" quality. Regardless, as I said above, I will not personally be discussing the corn topic with you anymore, and I encourage you to back away from it before it leads to your account being blocked. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 20:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I respect your opinion on this topic. Please understand that I have no intention of "changing the English language."  I am only referencing the FDA's classification of corn sugar manufactured from cornstarch as dextrose or D-glucose (the chemical [alpha]-D-glucopyranose);  and, due to my allergy to corn, I experience severe allergic reactions to dextrose/D-glucose/[alpha]-D-glucopyranose; e.g., in iodized salt, IV solutions, etc. Apparently, this is the reason contraindication warnings are listed in the package insert for IV solutions to which corn sugar formulations (dextrose/D-glucose/[alpha]-D-glucopyranose) have been added.


 * I mean absolutely no disrespect; however, I'm trying to understand your summation. Are you stating that dextrose/D-glucose/[alpha]-D-glucopyranose formulations are hypoallergenic? Are you stating that dextrose/D-glucose/[alpha]-D-glucopyranose are naturally present in all living organisms? I respectfully request that you do not block me from Wikipedia for asking these two simple questions.  Thank you for affording me the same mutual respect.


 * I have no "agenda" other than to protect the lives of individuals diagnosed with an IgE-mediated allergy to corn.


 * The World is Listening

I circulated a petition globally, including the majority of our nation's hospitals, media, etc. that glucose (blood sugar) should never be equated with dextrose (corn sugar manufactured from cornstarch) for the safety of individuals diagnosed with an IgE-mediated allergy to corn. Livestrong was one of the recipients. Compare their prior article to their current article (same URL, but the title and text of the article have been corrected with no revision date indicated).


 * "Too Sweet to Be True," Livestrong

"Researchers from a company supported by NASA found that L-glucose and D-glucose taste exactly the same, but only D-glucose is metabolized by your stomach and used for energy. For this reason, L-glucose was considered for use as a low-calorie sweetener, and more research was conducted. It turned out that L-glucose was too expensive to produce for this use, however." 

Respectfully submitted byDextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 04:44, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * "Hypoallergenic" doesn't mean that nobody in the world is allergic to it. It means that people are less likely to develop an allergic response to a hypoallergenic substance than to other things. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:52, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree with this definition of "hypoallergenic." Based on the contributor's post, I was inquiring if it was the contributor's personal opinion that corn is hypoallergenic; e.g., based on testimonies from corn allergy group members, some allergists refuse to test a patient for a suspected allergy to corn stating that "Corn is hypoallergenic."  Their suspected allergy to corn was then confirmed after seeking a second opinion.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 17:48, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a big world. Some people are allergic to all sorts of "hypoallergenic" (a term with no legal standard in the US for determining what is/isn't hypoallergenic, BTW) substances.  You'd just expect fewer people-per-million-exposures to be allergic to corn than to, say, bee stings.
 * I always wonder how many people with wrong/incomplete/missed diagnoses get back to the original healthcare providers with updated information. Not to yell at them (hopefully), but to say something like 'I saw you a couple of years ago, and it turns out that the symptoms were caused by corn allergy after all.  If you need to refer someone, then Dr So-and-so is set up to do the testing'.   WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)


 * An allergy to insect stings is much easier to diagnose than an allergy to corn; e.g., as stated earlier, it took me 3 1/2 years to determine I was allergic to corn, since corn is ubiquitous and is currently exempt from FDA labeling requirements. We do encourage our corn allergy group members to submit their positive corn allergy diagnosis with allergists who initially refused to test them for a suspected allergy to corn.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 15:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your kind and respectful reply.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 21:28, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The topic of corn allergies has been my full-time job for nearly seven years. I was asked questions in this thread to which I responded with respect, in addition to providing the requisite documentation. I am sorry you personally disagree with the documentation provided.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 23:20, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Can I suggest you read the article Corn allergy which is the topic you're so worked up about. If you know of any good quality secondary sources (reviews, statements by national or international health organisations) that could be used to expand that page, then please raise them at Talk:Corn allergy where you might be able to make a useful contribution.
 * I should explain to you that you're barking up the wrong tree by targeting the humble dextrose molecule. It's not the culprit for your corn allergy because it is chemically indistinguishable from what we call glucose when it's inside our bodies. You could not live with an allergy to dextrose. Immunoglobulin E antibodies are produced in response to proteins (see Fc receptor) and it is possible that in rare cases a person's immune system can be triggered by the proteins in corn. That's what is causing your problems and that's what you need to be campaigning against. Of course, even small amounts of some of the proteins found in corn (for example, trace quantities contaminating corn sugar) can be enough to set off a reaction in a sensitive individual, so I can see why you're confused. You can read more about it from the experts at the American College of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology in the article . Hope that helps. --RexxS (talk) 15:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I should explain to you that you're barking up the wrong tree by targeting the humble dextrose molecule. It's not the culprit for your corn allergy because it is chemically indistinguishable from what we call glucose when it's inside our bodies. You could not live with an allergy to dextrose. Immunoglobulin E antibodies are produced in response to proteins (see Fc receptor) and it is possible that in rare cases a person's immune system can be triggered by the proteins in corn. That's what is causing your problems and that's what you need to be campaigning against. Of course, even small amounts of some of the proteins found in corn (for example, trace quantities contaminating corn sugar) can be enough to set off a reaction in a sensitive individual, so I can see why you're confused. You can read more about it from the experts at the American College of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology in the article . Hope that helps. --RexxS (talk) 15:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Excerpt from my blog after I was diagnosed with an allergy to corn, and my allergist and primary care physician indicated they were unable to advise me how to safely navigate this allergy:

American Academy of Allergy Asthma & Immunology (AAAAI) and American College of Allergy, Asthma, & Immunology (ACAAI):

"Since I was now responsible for conducting my own research to guide me in navigating my allergy to corn, I referenced the AAAAI “Ask the Expert” and the ACAAI “Ask the Allergist” articles. Based on the articles referenced on these websites, it was clear that many medical professionals also rely on their expert opinions.  Unfortunately, I soon realized that many medical professionals relied on these expert opinions without questioning the validity of their claims.

After I read the following declaration by Phil Lieberman, MD, related to consuming corn oil, I conducted an oral challenge of Mazola corn oil, and suffered a severe allergic reaction. Thankfully, the AAAAI immediately removed this article at my request, and I personally contacted Dr. Lieberman with the results of my oral challenge to corn oil.

". . . the issue is complex because some products, such as corn oils, are labeled as having corn, but actually do not contain corn allergen." “Avoidance of Corn Allergen," AAAAI, Ask the Expert, 2012

After I read the following declaration on the ACAAI’s website regarding cornstarch and corn syrup, I conducted an oral challenge of Argo cornstarch, and suffered a severe allergic reaction. A year after mailing the ACAAI a certified letter, they finally redacted their claim regarding cornstarch; however, we continue to appeal to them to redact their equally-false statement regarding corn syrup."

“Most corn-derived products, like cornstarch and high-fructose corn syrup, do not contain corn protein. If you have a corn allergy, you do not need to avoid these products.” 

Re: Dextrose

I have covered this topic in this thread with supporting documentation.

Thank you very much for your feedback.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 18:04, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Corn-allergic consumers have limited access to commercially-processed fresh food products; e.g., meat, poultry, seafood, fruit, or produce.

The FDA and USDA confirmed that corn-derived antimicrobial chemicals applied to fresh food products  are exempt from public disclosure.

References:

1. The Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) Food and Cosmetic Information Center (FCIC)/Technical Assistance Network (TAN), Case Number 231940.

2. After I was also reacting to organic fresh food products, I contacted the USDA. In my conversation on April 15, 2020, with Devin (USDA National Organic Program Division), 1-202-720-3252, he explained that suppliers of produce certified organic by the USDA are allowed to treat organic produce with corn-derived antimicrobial chemical washes which are exempt from public disclosure.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 16:56, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

The Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) Food and Cosmetic Information Center (FCIC)/Technical Assistance Network (TAN) confirmed that cornstarch used in packaging materials is exempt from public disclosure, Case Number 233217.

The Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) Food and Cosmetic Information Center (FCIC)/Technical Assistance Network (TAN) confirmed that corn is exempt from FDA labeling requirements, Case Numbers 00167188, 00167300, 00168167, and 236408.

The Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) Food and Cosmetic Information Center (FCIC)/Technical Assistance Network (TAN) confirmed that starches in food products must be identified by their "common or usual name," Case Number 226516.

Prevalence of Corn in Our Daily Lives

A common complaint in our corn allergy support groups of over 12K members is that in order to survive with an allergy to corn, we have to "raise it, grow it, or catch it (providing we can find organic compost and corn-free water)." The following personal testimony published in The Atlantic details our daily struggle for survival with this allergy, particularly as it relates to our responsibility to educate medical professionals for our own safety.

“And while in the midst of a migraine I had to argue with a doctor about the fact [that] I really could not have a dextrose IV,” she said. In the moment, she realized how absurd it was for her to be telling a world-class specialist to change her treatment."

We are not only required to educate medical professionals, we often have to educate food manufacturers. Several years ago, Love Grown Foods advertised a cereal product as "corn free." After suffering an allergic reaction to their product, I filed an adverse reaction report with the company and the FDA. They promptly changed their packaging deleting their corn-free claim, and have addressed this issue in their FAQs.

Love Grown Foods, FAQs

Do your products contain corn or corn products?

"Love Grown formulates the vast majority of our products without corn. It has become increasingly difficult to verify that all ingredients do not contain corn from undeclared sources (some natural flavors and colors may contain corn)." 

"Corn: It's Everything," Iowa Corn 

"How corn made its way into just about everything we eat," The Washington Post

"Corn is everywhere in American fast food," National Geographic 

"If we are what we eat, Americans are corn and soy," CNN.com 

"We’re Living on Corn!," The New York Review of Books 

"Corn, Corn, Everywhere Corn," Institute for Responsible Technology 

"Corn-Allergy Sufferers Face Hidden Corn Everywhere," Eat Drink Better 

"Corn Is Everywhere!," JSTOR 

"Corn Is Everywhere! Here's What You Should Do," Goals.com

"Understand that the corn industry is bigger than you thought it was. Corn is in your toothpaste, cardboard, matches, and magazine covers. It is also heavily in our foods. Look at labels. Don't just look for HFCS but dig deeper at the other ingredients.  Understand more of what you are consuming and try to reduce the amount of corn you consume." DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 03:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

My contributions to the "Corn Allergy" Wikipedia page were censored.
After providing the same factual evidence on the "Corn Allergy" Wikipedia page as I have provided in this thread, my contributions were censored. This is troubling for the safety of individuals with an IgE-mediated allergy to corn.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 04:49, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Reference 2. under the "Notes" section on the "Corn Allergy" Wikipedia page is not a viable link. The "Talk" page is unavailable, which is the reason I'm addressing this issue in this thread.DextroseIsCornSugar (talk) 06:27, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * You have explicitly said, repeatedly, that you are here to advocate (and are using sources which do not meet our medical source guidelines to do so). Wikipedia is explicitly not the place for that. I recommend that you consider alternative outlets for your advocacy. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:58, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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