User talk:Dfoley51

Dfoley51 00:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Changes to XXX in science
Hi, I think it is not a good idea to change the Birth/Death links from XXXX_in_science to XXXX. With keeping these inside the "science" scope we can have a rather complete list of scientists' vital stats without needing to justify their notability in the "global" year sections. Please, reconsider your changes. Cheers! Awolf002 01:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I know you removed 'red-links'. But it would be also possible to create a new XXXX_in_science page with a small set of sections and to add the person in question to the Birth or Death list. Thanks! Awolf002 01:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but why are you changing the perfectly good "pipes" for years? Does it make sense to you to read 'Gabriel Fahrenheit, physicist, inventor (died 1736 in science)'?? Not to me it does not! Awolf002 01:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I guess I was not clear enough. I'm talking about, as example, 1686 in science, where the text now reads as quoted above. No "red links" where ever a problem, here. I will revert these changes. Awolf002 01:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, we disagree on the importance of 'transparency' as an overriding goal. Many editors have followed the same way of linking years within the 'XXXX in science' pages, and (I presume) found this natural and useful. Please, do not change pipes to existing year pages in 'XXXX in science'. Awolf002 02:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Year articles
Hi. I have noticed your changes from "b." to "born" and "from d." to "died" in the lists of births and deaths. While I support your changes, could you please comment which of the following would be better?


 * 1) common year starting on Wednesday of the Gregorian calendar
 * 2) common year starting on Wednesday in the Gregorian calendar

As of now I am planning and concentrating on adding detailed differences of the Gregorian and Julian calendars from 1583. I plan to do it until at least 1918 when Russia started using the Gregorian calendar.--Jusjih 17:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * "On second thought the first option is the one you should use". I have asked the question as I have used the first option for a long time. Thank you very much for your answer.--Jusjih 16:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to have to tell you this....
...but the Timeline standards specify that "b." and "d." are to be used on those pages, as opposed to "born" or "died". You appear to have already changed several hundred entries; they're going to have to be changed back. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  06:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


 * On talk Wikiproject Years, the same question was posted was posted two discussions above your posting. The consensus was it was acceptable to make those changes. I think it reads better as died vs. d.Dfoley51 20:21, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

No, there was no consensus; there was no response at all. Someone asked a question, but nobody responded. The confusion, of course, is that many of the pages you've edited already said "born" and "died", so we weren't being entirely consistent in the first place. But the standards document (Timeline standards), which we follow on the days of the year pages (e.g. November 1) specifies "b." and "d.". Before you make any more changes, I strongly recommend that you ask for an opinion on Wikipedia talk:Timeline standards. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  20:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

By the way, aside from the administrative question of how we format the born/died references, you've done some impressive work cleaning up those pages! -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  20:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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