User talk:Dft3423

May 2024
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Semsûrî (talk) 07:47, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

This is your only warning; if you remove or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia again, as you did at Taşlıyayla, Sivrice, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Semsûrî (talk) 11:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I give reasons and show the sources cited in that article are wrong.
 * Source-1: https://www.tuik.gov.tr/indir/duyuru/favori_raporlar.xlsx this source does not contain any information about ethnicities of the Taşlıyayla village.
 * It only gives information about the village population.
 * Source-2: Çakar, Enver (2012). Elazığ Baskil Yöresi Aşiretleri. Ertem Basım. p. 168. ISBN 9786058677609.
 * This source does not contain any information about ethnicities of the Taşlıyayla village.
 * New source that proves my edit is valid.
 * https://tez.yok.gov.tr/UlusalTezMerkezi/TezGoster?key=Br_XTptK8CZ70f0JGX9xEmf_PMcKHuSSJk8i-lXVXFY0Nq2jZlOPoGOzvXntx5gO
 * At this PhD thesis, there is map at page 98 which shows the lands where Herdi tribe was located. At that map, Taşlıyayla village is not in the region. Dft3423 (talk) 12:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That PhD thesis seems to be about the region in the 17th century. Çakar lists the village (which he misspells as Taşlıyaka) as an Aluçlu Herdi village. See screenshots of page 168 and his map. Semsûrî (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I contacted the writer of the book whose writer is Prof. Dr. ENVER ÇAKAR that you sent me as a reference and that is his response:
 * Original in Turkish:
 * "Tabloda Aluçlu köyleri listesi var. Bu listedeki köylerin hepsi aşiret değildir. Aluçlu nahiyesi köyleridir. Sonra bunların Kürt olduğuna dair bir ibare de yoktur. Ayrıca aynı bölgede yer alan Kayabağları'nda da Kürtçe konuşulmaz. Bununla birlikte, kitapta Aluçlu ve Herdi aşiret köylerinin anlatıldığı kısımda İringil kesinlikle yer almaz. Çünkü bu aşiretlerin yaşadığı bir köy değildir. Haritada ise sehven aşiret köyü olarak gösterilmiştir.(not: yazıştığınız şahsın veya sitenin emailini bana gönderirseniz ben de bu konuyla ilgili bir şeyler  yazarım). Selamlar."
 * And in English:
 * "The table contains a list of Aluçlu villages. Not all villages in this list are tribal. They are villages of Aluçlu sub-district. Then there is no indication that they are Kurdish. Moreover, Kurdish is not spoken in Kayabağları in the same region. However, in the section of the book where the villages of the Aluçlu and Herdi tribes are described, Iringil is definitely not included. This is because it is not a village inhabited by these tribes. On the map, it is shown as a tribal village by mistake.(note: if you send me the email of the person or site you are corresponding with, I will write something about this issue). Greetings.
 * Translated with DeepL.com (free version)"
 * Note: İringil is the old name of the Taşlıyayla village.
 * You can contact the professor using this e-mail address to confirm my response:
 * https://abs.firat.edu.tr/tr/ecakar/contact
 * Now updating the article about Taşlıyayla village will be no problem. Dft3423 (talk) 07:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Please read Reliable references and I encourage you to get a third opinion on this as I won't support changing sourced information for an unpublished mail. Semsûrî (talk) 06:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Please send me an e-mail address to whom I can forward the reply I got to you. Dft3423 (talk) 10:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There's no such e-mail address. The mail is not published (public) so it can't be used as a reference (per the link above). You should ask for a third opinion from an admin. Semsûrî (talk) 16:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)