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Re: Draft:Buddha Dhamma Mandala Society
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List of Buddhist temples in Singapore
Looking at your edits in List of Singapore-related topics, don't you think it is high time to establish a list of Buddhist temples in Singapore on its own? robertsky (talk) 16:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Buddha Dhamma Mandala Society


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Temples don't persecute
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June 2021
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Spamming see also section in lists of Buddhist temples
Please don't spam see also sections like that. The entries are supposed to be closely related. Local architecture is closely related and you've been removing it in places. The lists did need Buddhism in  added, but that should cover and summarize every other link you added that's relevant. If you think that article is incomplete, then also add the related category (you'll need a colon before 'category' to get it to list). Your lists appear to be attempted Proselytism, which isn't really appropriate in an encyclopedia. Skyerise (talk) 18:52, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

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List of books related to Buddhism
Hello! I hope you're doing well. I pinged you recently on the Talk page of List of books related to Buddhism. You've edited the page since then but haven't replied to me. That's absolutely your right, but I wanted to check in to make sure that you hadn't just missed the Talk page discussion. I'm thinking about soliciting feedback from a larger group. It's possible that I'll propose deletion again if I can't rouse enough interest in creating inclusion criteria. Since you seem interested in the page, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter. Take care! Pathawi (talk) 20:15, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, hope you are doing well. I do see some potential in this page, and is planning to expand two new section for scriptural translation and meditation. Deletion of this page will be a pity in my personal opinion. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 22:21, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

See also and external link spamming
Please stop spamming articles with too loosely related see also links. Also please stop spamming articles with external links. The rule is that any one site may have only one link in the external links section. I will be reverting all your spamming. Skyerise (talk) 14:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

I am not spamming, these are all actual articles related to the topics. You can advice me about the standard and not wrongly accusing me on spamming. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Do you know how much time and effort that was needed to find and include those articles? It's not very polite to wrongly accusing me of spamming. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 15:01, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The articles are not closely related enough. That's spamming. Adding three external links to the same site at the beginning of the external links section is also spamming. It's spamming when you do it to multiple articles in rapid sequence. Lay off. Skyerise (talk) 16:28, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * You also seem to be ignorant of the rules governing see also sections. They should not have any links which are already present in the article body. If the Four Noble Truths are mentioned and linked in the article, it should not also be added to the see also section. Our goal is to have short see also sections, which disappear entirely as more content is added to the article which can integrate the links into the body of the article. Please don't continue to add duplicate links into see also and try to follow WP intent for the see also section. (1) They should be short; (2) they should not attempt to be a directory to the broader topic (we have navboxes, outlines, and portals to serve that purpose); (3) they should not include links already in the article. If you will follow these rules, you'll be reverted less. Skyerise (talk) 17:08, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Finally, you've been warned about this before, by me, in early October. You should have then researched the rules concerning the see also section instead of waiting a month and then just doing it again. Any time lost is your own fault here. Skyerise (talk) 17:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Changing Buddha to Lord Buddha
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Tips and pointers about your recent edits to Taiwanese religion
Hello, thanks for your edits to Wikipedia. I want to leave some feedback about your recent edits to Taiwanese religion and temples: Let me know if there's any questions, and remember to use Reply to. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (talk) 05:58, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
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I 've been told you many times
Please don't add unrelated links between articles, like Xinwu Tianhou Temple and Taoyuan Confucian Temple. Thanks a lot.--迴廊彼端 (talk) 14:39, 21 December 2021 (UTC)


 * "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body." Maybe this would help you. Thanks for edits and Happy Lunar New Year.--迴廊彼端 (talk) 03:27, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * Amended, thanks Dhammapala Tan (talk) 06:05, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

short descriptions
you have changed over 30 articles about buddhism in Indonesia short descriptions by taking their character numbers to 53 or more rather the required (where possible) 40...

So why the need for detail and over the limit against the short description limit?

Is there something you know about short descriptions that could be shared perhaps? JarrahTree 10:21, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


 * , there is no hard upper limit to short descriptions, 40 characters is an arbitrary suggestion from WMF, suggested to suit their app, but it is more important that a short description should be meaningful, accurate, useful to the reader, non-repetitive, unambuguous if possible (not always possible), and most importantly not misleading or unnecessarily confusing. We do try as far as is reasonably possible to stay below 100 characters, but even this is sometimes impracticable. On the other hand, while candi may be the correct term for Buddhist temples/stupas in Indonesia, it is not a word familiar to most of our readers, so unless there is a compelling reason which I have yet to see, the word temple serves the purpose much better. Candi is not actually misleading, just unhelpful to the millions of readers unfamiliar with the term. Even stupa is likely to be more familiar and useful, but if temple is actually wrong, religious building might be better even though a bit longer. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 11:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , Please either stop changing the short descriptions to candi, or provide authoritative evidence that the term temple is wrong, and that religious building or some other more familiar term cannot be used. Please ping with reply. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 11:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear all, these candi are not consider as temples. They are more like some sort of archaeological sites. Candi is actually stupa or pagoda, also have the similar meaning of chedi. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 11:48, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * They are in all cases actually default archaeological sites due to the age and dating and remains, and the status is almost universal for known and named sites in Java.


 * to suggest they are not temples is a misunderstanding - candi/stupa/pagoda/chedi are not accessible terms for the average reader of wikipedia - the buddhist candi of central java are sufficiently formed as being a type of temple - and that is an adequate term to be used. There is adequate material clarifying the usage of such a term.


 * - thanks for clarification - to see an already 40 character or less item increased to 53 with detail that is added with an obscure term seems worth checking. I fail to see why a 'date' or era has to be added to a short description. Even if the 40 limit is seen as arbitrary, it is damned useful most of the time. JarrahTree 12:02, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * , Use your discretion. If the new short description works better, keep it, if it is worse, revert. if it has the same functional value choose the one which is shorter (within reason) or just leave it. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 12:09, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * If 40 characters can do the job, why use more? It is a good exercise in concision. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 12:32, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


 * , Please use English terms when possible for short descriptions, this is English Wikipedia. In all cases where it is not possible, leave an explanation for why it is not appropriate on the talk page. Please provide the evidence I requested from a reliable source that there is no suitable English term. The article Candi of Indonesia suggests to me that temple or shrine is generally an acceptable translation. Regards, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 12:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Site, or if necessary, archeological site are also comprehensible to most readers, and may be useful alternatives. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 12:13, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Site will be more sensible than temple. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 12:16, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Use the English term which fits best, but be ready to explain if someone asks why. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 12:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I think that Site, changes the description of structures which are named - it doesnt make sense, very few of them have been reduced to rubble or foundations only... I would have thought a specific location is more relevant than date, and that central java is more relevant than the century... JarrahTree 12:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Most of them are located in Java area, I feel that the period will be more interesting for reader. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 12:36, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Judge each case on its merits. They do not all have to use the same words. I have reasonably confidence of your judgement. If in doubt, ping me, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 12:43, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I honestly give up - Java is an island in Indonesia (not an area), and central java has the preponderance of locations yes, but in most cases the time that they were created 'era' is about as clear as the word candi to the average reader.  I have no faith that the short descriptions are either resolved or of any use to anyone.  Enjoy. JarrahTree 12:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

If there is disagreement on the best short description for any article, propose the alternatives on the talk page, explain why one is better than the other, and get consensus. The short description is subject to all the normal rules for content as well as the special rules for its functionality, so BRD applies. The usual caveats apply. I can only give a personal opinion if I know which case is under discussion. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 13:04, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear all, thanks for all the suggestion. l have been to Jakarta and is aware that it is an island. Most of the candi are located in Java, not many readers will know the difference between central Java or East Java or West Java. I also not sure how to replace century with era. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 13:25, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * @DPL bot, have already amended. Thanks for the update. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 09:27, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

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Reversions
Hello, Dhammapala Tan. As discussed on Talk:Zuowanglun, changing Dao… to Tao… goes against Wikipedia conventions. When are you going to revert those edits? Thank you, Keahapana (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @Keahapana Hi, there is nothing wrong to use Tao, Dao is Chinese pin yin usage. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 21:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Did you read and understand Consistency and MOS:CHINESE? There is nothing wrong with using either Taoism or Daoism when adding new content to WP, but the rules and guidelines prohibit users from arbitrarily changing Daoism to Taoism, or vice versa, in existing pages, especially within quotes. Keahapana (talk) 01:03, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Keahapana, I cannot recalled all that I have changed, will revert what I can remember. Dhammapala Tan (talk) 01:12, 8 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for being reasonable and constructive. With your User contributions list, there is no need to remember past edits, and reverting changes is generally faster than making them, see Help:Reverting. After you get started undoing past edits, I'm willing to help with some of the Daoism related pages. Best wishes, Keahapana (talk) 21:00, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

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