User talk:DianeHeiser

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 * When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.
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Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

DianeHeiser
Hi Jimfbleak,

I have read your comments and I thank you for your feedback. I am not sure how I can prove it but I am not writing about myself and I am not related in any way to the artist. The subject of the article is the music artist Blanco White whose real name is Josh Edwards. He becomes more and more famous. You can check his videos and website (see the references I put in the article), he has up to 350k views on some of his clips. I just discovered him on iTunes music and found it weird that he had no Wikipedia page yet. So I decided to create it. I can modify the text if you consider that it is too promotional (please detail me if possible which parts appear too promotional to you). Could you help me recover the text of the draft I made so that I could correct and improve it ? Kind regards, Diane Kind regards, Diane DianeHeiser (talk) 07:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping to ; not sure which draft they're referring to but you're the point person on the deletion so I'll pass the ball to you. Primefac (talk) 13:36, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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I am prepared to assume good faith when you say that you have no COI, but still multiple problems I hope this clarifies Jimfbleak - talk to me?  11:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Your references are not independent third-party sources. All are either closely connected to him or have text clearly written by him, see my first posting for what sources are acceptable
 * I can't see how he meets Notability (music), if he doesn't, he won't get an article here, perhaps WP:Too soon
 * I've seen worse, but your text leaned to promotional. "Josh" is a bit matey for an encyclopaedia article, and you give opinions such as his aim being to connect... renowned producer
 * Your text appears to be a close paraphrase of this site, marked CBS Interactive © 2020 Last.fm Ltd. All rights reserved. For legal reasons we do not restore copyright violations
 * Not reasons for deletion as such, but you should not leave refs as bare urls, and our style is "US", not "United States of America"
 * Also a script is telling me that the copied site is completely unacceptable, saying There is community consensus to deprecate the source. The source is considered generally unreliable, and use of the source is generally prohibited. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:04, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Jimfbleak,

I wrote a new text applying the advices you gave me. Here is a draft of it. Could you please tell me if it is OK for you ? (not too promotional,...) I used the references we talked about previously (Arte, The independant and the culture trip), and I tried to reformulate as much as I could, keeping an objective point of view.

"Josh Edwards (born July 21, 1991), known professionally as Blanco White, is a British singer-songwriter. Originally from London, Edwards travelled to Cadiz, Spain to study flamenco guitar under the guidance of Nono García, before going to Sucre, Bolivia where he was introduced to traditional local folk music and learnt to play the charango, an Andean instrument . In 2014, he brought together Andalusian and Latin American influences while keeping his English musical roots, which launched his solo project Blanco White.

His first show as Blanco White, named after the Spanish writer José María Blanco White, dates back to December 2015 at Proud Camden where he was accompanied by the Wovoka Gentle band.

In 2016, Blanco White signed with Yucatan Records based in London and release his first EP called The Wind Rose. He then released two other EPs Colder Heavens in 2017 and The Nocturne in 2018 respectively.

Since 2016, he toured Europe and the US and was nominated at the Anchor Award in 2018.

Please let me know what you think about it. Concerning the picture, I got it from the contact given on the artist website. I contacted them to know if they could give me a picture that they agreed on posting on wikipedia and they sent me this one. Another editor told me that I need a real prof of free licensing so I ask the contact and I am now waiting for it.

Best, DianeHeiser (talk) 16:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The text seems factual and non-promotional, and I've formatted it a bit, but you haven't included your references, so I don't know if you have used independent verifiable sources or just taken stuff from websites associated with him or Yucatan. Even if you have good independent references, it's not clear to me how he meets our notability guidelines for music. Unless that becomes clear, even if not appropriate for speedy deletion, the article may be sent to WP:AFD for a deletion discussion.


 * Yes, the image must be proved to have been released for free use for any purpose, including commercial


 * Thanks for your comments and for formatting the text. I've added the references, let me know if some (or all) are not reliable. I'll remove the part corresponding to unreliable sources. Concerning the notability, I believe that he fills the 12th point given on the Notability wikipedia page, saying: Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network. Indeed his Eurosonic concert has been rebroadcast on a channel wellknown in France and Germany (Arte, this is my main source for the article).

Let me know what you think about this. Best DianeHeiser (talk) 09:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The last ref is a sales site,can't be used. Several of the others rely directly ir indirectly on him, so should be used only for clear facts, not opinions. I'd be happier if the Arte site was something other than the video page if tha's possible. Also the refs shouldn't be left as bare urls Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:11, 2 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I took clear facts only from the sources. I have completed the references, I hope it is ok now. I have found only two pages on the Arte website talking about Blanco White, one is an extract of his concert, the other one is the whole concert + a short description of him below. Here are the two links: https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/088060-000-A/blanco-white-au-festival-eurosonic-2019/

https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/087076-001-A/blanco-white-a-eurosonic-2019/ I haven't found anything else with Arte... I'm not sure if it counts but he appears to be nominated for the anchor awards, see link here: https://www.anchor-award.com/en/nominee/blanco-white

Best DianeHeiser (talk) 12:50, 2 April 2020 (UTC)


 * this is clearer Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)