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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. Thanks! UW Dawgs (talk) 00:27, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I'm UW Dawgs. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Washington Huskies football statistical leaders, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. UW Dawgs (talk) 01:02, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Stats leaders
Are you using some kind of checklist and well-established system to update these articles, or are you just kinda haphazardly updating them? I love the enthusiasm and am more than happy to see you do weekly edits if you want, but we have to make sure it's all organized so we don't miss any new records. Jhn31 (talk) 00:37, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, it's fine if you want to take charge and update every week, but it just seems really unnecessary to update 90+ pages every week haphazardly when I have a process that will update all of them neatly at the end of every season, using a methodical process that guarantees we don't miss any and the formatting all stays consistent. Jhn31 (talk) 00:42, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - Also, you are leaving intact the "These lists are updated through the end of the 2015 season." sentence atop these articles. Please slow down, review the feedback and find WP:RS for your changes.  They are very likely to be reverted in their current form as unsourced changes. Please ask for clarification if you are confused, we are happy to offer feedback. UW Dawgs (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Again, are you using a system and checklist to update these lists, or just doing them haphazardly? I'm really not sure it's a good use of time to update these every week rather than just once at the end of the year, but if you really want to, you at least need to have a methodical process that ensures you didn't miss any. It really looks like you're just updating a few at random here and there. For example, you added Lamar Jackson's yardage last night to Louisville, but you didn't add him to the rushing touchdowns list. (He had 4.) We can't just have these updated haphazardly. I have a process in place that will update all of these lists at the end of the season, and there's no chance that I'll miss a school or miss a record. If you want to contribute, you need to have a process in place that ensures that you don't miss anything either. Otherwise, sit back and enjoy the season and know that ALL of these articles will be completely updated with proper sourcing, notation, etc., at the end of the year. Jhn31 (talk) 20:27, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Lamar Jackson was updated because he got number 1 on the all purpose yards single game, i didnt update the rushing touchdown single game because there was already 10 entries on the list and he would have just been added unnecessarily on the list. Why do you attack me for accurately updating these lists to actual present day as opposed to 10 months ago which isnt of any use to anyone, if you only update at the end of the season why do you bother updating the team season pages after every game. Instead of criticising someone for actually updating the pages why dont you actually use your system to update after every game so people can get accuracy. As for the term 'Haphazard' there is numerous errors all over the pages so its not me thats making the pages inaccurate.Diegotristan8 (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Your changes such as this fail WP:V as they lack a WP:RS, and break the existing WP:RS. UW Dawgs (talk) 21:20, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * "Lamar Jackson was updated because he got number 1 on the all purpose yards single game" No, he is now first in total offense, not all-purpose yardage, and if you don't know the difference in these these two statistics, you probably don't need to be editing stats articles at all.
 * " i didnt update the rushing touchdown single game because there was already 10 entries on the list and he would have just been added unnecessarily on the list." If ties cause the list to have more than 10 players in the top 10, we list them all. That's the case on all 99 (currently) of these articles on Wikipedia. Having a complete list is never "unnecessary."
 * "Why do you attack me" No one is attacking you. It's not personal. We all want Wikipedia to be as high quality as possible, and having inconsistent haphazard editing across the site is not the way to have that.
 * "for accurately updating these lists to actual present day as opposed to 10 months ago" But they're not always accurate, because you are only updating some of the articles, and even on the ones you update you don't get them all, such as Lamar Jackson's 4 rushing touchdowns. Are you tracking every stat? What about the defensive and kicking ones? How do you know you're not missing anything? Again, I'm totally OK with having these updated every week if done properly, but so far you're not doing it that way. You're just eyeballing it rather than using a system.
 * (For example, I update Mississippi State's page every week, but I have a big spreadsheet of every MSU player's career and 2016 stats on it so I can be 100% sure that I haven't missed anything. I also use consistent citing rather than just listing a URL, etc.)


 * "if you only update at the end of the season why do you bother updating the team season pages after every game."' Those pages must be updated within the rules of Wikipedia, just like these.
 * "Instead of criticising someone for actually updating the pages why dont you actually use your system to update after every game so people can get accuracy"' It would take several hours each week to keep these updated properly, and they would only stand for a week before having to do the process all over again. It's just not worth it. There are so many other pages that need to be worked on that would be a better use of those weekly hours (such as year-by-year pages for G5 teams).
 * "As for the term 'Haphazard' there is numerous errors all over the pages so its not me thats making the pages inaccurate." Numerous errors? Where? If you point any out to me, which people occasionally have, I will quickly fix them... Jhn31 (talk) 21:29, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Another point - you need to use the {{Citeweb feature that you'll see on many pages to cite sources, not just putting a url with ref tags around it. Or you could just enjoy the season and let me/whoever else handle the updating systematically. Jhn31 (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2016 (UTC)