User talk:Dinamo-Barça

December 2021
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The fans do not recognise the logo that you guys call official and because of that,I asked at first politely for the logo to not be included in the page.But I was lied by the user who reported me with the ridiculous lie that wikipedia does not allow more than one image on an article.I got offended so I took matters into my own hands and decided to change the logo myself.Without asking for the reason why or any other explanation, the user who did the report declared a war on me and undid the revisions i did multiple times.Blocking me is not the solution,because the team has a large fan base whose voice is not being heard.There are people better who know better than me how to edit and let me tell you that that logo will not stand as long as we are alive. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 10:03, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It's only soccer. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah but it's just unacceptable to scrap the symbol that contains all of our club's history.On top of that l was lied by the guy who reported me, wich in turn caused me to offend him. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 19:20, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What do they use on their website? Which, by the way, I was unable to access. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:39, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

The website,and to an extension, the whole marketing campaign (including the new logo) was handled by a third party company which the club no longer cooperates with.The webside was handled by them and that is why we can't access it.This marketing company is also to blame for the change of the logo.Now that the company is no longer our partner,it is more than right to use the old logo of the club. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 19:44, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What's an authoritative source for this issue? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

The one used now it is the official logo. It is used on official FB page and club jerseys. The one that is proposed by this user is the old logo, considered "traditional logo". If its properly uploaded, taking into account the copyrights and all, it might be used below in article but not in infobox Bes-ART  Talk  14:28, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What is the link to the official FB page? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * FB page here. This thing is getting ridiculous. The other logo is a clear WP:COPYVIO.  Bes-ART Talk  17:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If that logo on FB is what the club considers to be its official logo, then that's what it is. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I dont care what the club does.If the fans do not recognise it,it's over.I know that the point of Wikipedia is to spread knowledge and us such only true facts are allowed.But you should take in consideration that l proposed to the user who reported me to do what you just said (to add the other badge below in the article.)What he did instead,was an arrogant lie.He told me that wikipedia pages do not allow more than one image.You,as experienced editors,should take into account that the only people who truly love a football club are the fans.Not the president and not the players.Thus,if you silence us on the biggest knowledge spreading platform on the web, it would be the most undemocratic and arrogant thing to do. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 14:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

If you want an authiritative source I can give you some names from inside the club. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 14:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

You guys are avoiding my messages youre not reading them.Read again what i wrote before judging. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 18:41, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Post a link to a valid source which supports your viewpoint. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Can I give you the fb page of the fan group? Dinamo-Barça (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Is this fan group officially sanctioned by the team? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:29, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Of course we talk with the people inside the club all the time.The only problem is they're full of crap and they keep lying to us. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 22:39, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * In other words, you've got no evidence. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Depends on what you call evidence.You want websites links and documents right? Dinamo-Barça (talk) 22:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia requires valid sources. Fan pages are typically not considered valid sources. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:46, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Well that's sad.The only people who love the club are not considered valid.Instead the rich oligarchs who buy the club to launder their money and fix the matches for profit are valid right? Look,football in Albania doesn't function at all.The only people who can change things are the fans but we should not be silenced like in this case. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 22:50, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * No one knows better what the club's logo is than the club itself. Whatever problems there may be between the fans and the club, it is not Wikipedia's problem. If you can provide valid media coverage of this problem, that might be valid. Fan pages are not. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I'll see what I can find.There is a newspaper article that ill try to provide.That being said,one day sooner or later that logo will come back once again when the club gets in safe hands again. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 23:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

One last question.How would you react if your country changed it's national symbols? Dinamo-Barça (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comparing a soccer team to a nation is kind of a stretch. I might get upset if my favorite baseball team changed its logo. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:21, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah it maybe is.But personally i feel as much passion for my team as for my country (which is a lot in both cases).Or at least I used to.The club is run by a bunch of corrupt people and I no longer follow the team like I used to. Dinamo-Barça (talk) 23:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Could you give some sort of advice on how can we make our protest more known (On the web in particular) ? Dinamo-Barça (talk) 23:30, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * There must be some fan forums around. And an obvious place to go would be Facebook or other social media. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

THE LOGO WAS OFFICIALLY CHANGED BACK TODAY. THERE YOU HAVE IT THIS IS THE POWER OF THE FANS Dinamo-Barça (talk) 01:38, 10 July 2022 (UTC)