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Amitasagara
Well, I'm currently studying the Yapparungalakkarikai, and in the process I happened to notice that the reference was in the commentary rather than in the text itself. It's borne out by the Madras Tamil Lexicon's entry for "kunakankiyam". If you look at the online version (romanised), the reference it gives is "karikai, payiravurai"(i.e. karikai, commentary on the payiram section). I should add that it's not really a major issue - I just thought you might be interested in knowing. -- Arvind (talk) 22:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:INDIA Tagging with TinucherianBot for WikiProject Karnataka
FYI- Your attention and help is requested .You are receiving this note as you are the member of the project --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 05:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey frnd, can you help me with this ?

WP:INDIA Tagging with TinucherianBot for WikiProject Karnataka --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 09:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The Autotagging for WikiProject Karnataka is compelete. Thanks for the help. See Project Talk page for details --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Vithoba
Need your suggestions for improvements in the article. Please need a peer review on article talk. Thanks. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure. I will read it this week end.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Seven wonders of India
Dear Dinesh Kannambadi,

We have corresponded through these pages in the past. I find that Amar has not been editing the Karnataka pages. Who is looking after the pages for value editing?

I have created an article on Seven Wonders of India which includes two of our Karnataka heritage sites. May I request you to edit/ wikify the article and also introduce the photos of all the seven wonders from the interlinked wikipages. I have tried to do it since morning (sitting in San diego I have all the time in the world to browse wiki pages)but have not been able to do it. Regards--Nvvchar (talk) 16:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Literature in the Hoysala Empire
The article has two different spellings, Kavichakravarti  and Kavichakravarthi for the same phrase ("emperor among poets"). I can't tell from references which spelling is more appropriate for the content. -- Michael Devore (talk) 20:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Either is fine.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 20:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Kadamba Tree
Hi, DNK!

You have written the aritcle on Kadamba Dynasty. Some one had created a page on Kadamba tree and called it a mythical tree, which is not correct. I have now changed this artcile totally and you may like to have a look at it. It is a stub page and hence I could not put on DYK.--Nvvchar (talk) 14:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Carnatic Music
Hi! DNK, You have been an ardent and committed contributor/editor of the articles on Carnatic Music (Karnataka Sangeetha). I came across an excellent biography titled 'MS - A Life in Music" by T.J.S George-ISBN 81-7223-527-5 published by Pubishers -HarperCollinsIndia (absorbing reading), which has not been referenced in any of the articles on Carnatic Music.The book is worth absorbing reading.  Some of the leading names are also missing such as Veena Dhanam, Bangalore Nagarathnamma, N.C.Vasanthakokilam, etc (Among the famous women vocalists).You may find the book interesting and informative to exapand the articles on Carnatic Music. It may also be a good idea to write a seperate article on the meanings of all Carnatic music terminology for the understaning of non southindian readers of the world.--Nvvchar (talk) 14:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Recent changes to articles and abuse by Special:Contributions/218.248.1.194
Please consider this note a head's-up on a recent spate of articles changes and abusive talk page remarks by an apparent single-purpose IP account Special:Contributions/218.248.1.194 to Kannada-related articles. Those abused in the remarks include User:Dineshkannambadi, User:Sarvagnya, User:KNM, and User:Amarrg, per. Additional abusive remarks and edit summaries directed to Dineshkannambadi are to be found in the IP's history log.

While I can revert the abusive talk page remarks, the IP's contribution history also shows a string of changes to multiple Indian history articles. Given the circumstances, it appears that these changes are of questionable merit. Unfortunately, I am not qualified on the topic content to determine if any of the other changes are correct. Accordingly, I am posting to the talk pages of the editors referenced by the IP so that you can collectively or individually take any actions on the change articles, talk pages, or the IP account that you think appropriate. -- Michael Devore (talk) 03:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Mangalore
Hi Dinesh, hope you're doing well. Managalore is currently FAC. As someone with a tremendous amount of knowledge about the state, your input would be very helpful. I have already provided some feedback. Thanks AreJay (talk) 23:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Sir, an abusive IP has been vandalising all most all the Karnataka FA articles in addition to leaving abusive messages on talk pages (talk:Chalukya Dynasty]]. If it continues, please consider softlocking these articles. I am still travelling and will be back in a week on active duty. thanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 14:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I already blcoked him. Take it easy and enjoy your trip.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 02:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Ridiculous POV
Hi I've just been browsing through the Hindustani and Carnatic singers and the POV is absolutely diabolical. Almost every article has little encyclopedic value but rather say what a great singer and success they were and how super fast they were. PLease can you look into it and sort some of them out. It is quite embarrasing to read some of them. Thanks  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 11:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi!
Please transliterate "Gautham" in Kannada script on my talk page! I assume that you are a native Kannada speaker? Thank you in advance :-) --91.130.91.110 (talk) 14:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Mysore mallige
Hi! KNM, Thanks for the congratulatory message.

I have almost completed two more articles, one titled " Architectural legacy of Karnataka" tracing from Kadamba period to the present which covers all schools of architecture (Tibetan, Church, Neo Dravidian and Sikh architectre also included) and another on Mutts in Karnataka. In the first article I have substantially used material from your very remarkably well done FA articles on architecture of Hoysala, Chalukaya and other tempels including photos (I hope there are no issues on this aspect) and supplemented with more info and photos. During my recent visit to Bangalore I bought a very informative CD (valued Rs 500) on "EPIGRAPHIA CARNATICA" prepared by ICHR Southern Regional Cetre, Bangalore, which should provide me more info on the subject of my article. In the second article, I am still collecting info on Lingayat and Vokkaliga mutts.If you have any references to suggest please let me know.Nvvchar (talk) 06:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

New Peer Review
Hi - I will take a look at it but it will probably take me several days as I am a bit busy right now. I fixed the cat issue from the PR talk page, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 13:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome - it sounds like a lovely temple - any chance of a photo inside? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 13:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No. unfortunately it was too dark and electricity was out.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

AE/BE spelling differences
I've replied in detail to your question on my talk page. -- Michael Devore (talk) 21:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia and Encyclopedia in Literature in the Hoysala Empire
Encyclopaedia and Encyclopedia are both common in British English, based on my searches and reading of reference materials, including several Wikipedia comments. An editor might want to use Encyclopedia so as to keep the spelling consistent with both American and British English usage, and perhaps be a bit neater. However, since Encyclopaedia remains relatively common in British English, it seems to me that this ought to be primary author's choice.

For the article Literature in the Hoysala Empire, the two spelling variations are a moot point. The reference books use the Encyclopaedia spelling, as clearly confirmed by an ISBN lookup at several different library and book-seller locations. Even if the original titles used the Æ|ash and were anglicized, "ae" (not "e") is generally considered an acceptable modern English spelling substitute. Based upon the book listings, Redtigerxyz was mistaken in editing the book reference titles to use the Encyclopedia spelling. You can revert the changes as being in error or, if you prefer, I will do so. -- Michael Devore (talk) 20:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Architectural legacy of Karnataka
Hi! DNK, You suggestion for joint writing of the above article is Ok with me. How do we go about it? Shall I send you the article (already edited as draft on Sandbox) in advance by e-mail so that you can put in your edits and additions and post it as a joint article. I have tried to put in additional references.--Nvvchar (talk) 04:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The article I am writing on Architectural legacy of karnataka to you about is becoming too long, more than 100 kb. I am not sure what to do with it.In the mean time I have posted an artcile on Deodar tree. You may like to participate in the discussions.--Nvvchar (talk) 05:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Commons categories
Thanks for your message. A photo or gallery page is placed in a category by adding the text (or whichever category you want) to the bottom of the photo/gallery page. See Commons:Categories for full details.

You should make sure that categories only contain appropriate content. By that, I mean it would be OK to put the Triprantaka Temple gallery into the Temples of Karnataka category, but it would be inappropriate to place the Belur gallery there because Belur is a town, not a temple of Karnataka.

Karnataka is the top level category for everything to do with Karnataka, including the temples, so you should be able to find everything you need in there.

Thanks, Papa November (talk) 16:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit
Hi Dinesh. Yes, I remember you well. I'd be glad to copyedit Literature in the Hoysala Empire with an eye toward prose flow, spelling, grammar, missing no-break codes, and the like. I'm apt to have little to say about content, though, because most of it will be unfamiliar to me. I have read the peer review. Finetooth (talk) 18:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. I'll start where Dan55 left off, and I'll read the talk page first. I plan to start later this evening. Finetooth (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The King, king business is pretty straightforward. The Manual of Style says here: When used as titles (that is, followed by a name), items such as president, king and emperor start with a capital letter: President Clinton, not president Clinton. On the other hand, it says: When used generically, such items are in lower case: De Gaulle was a French president and Louis XVI was a French king. By the way, I posted a question on the article's talk page about a place I got stuck, and I need your help to sort it out. Finetooth (talk) 03:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And later a second question. I worked my way through to the end, and it's time for bed. I'll come back in the morning and check the article's talk page and my user talk page for messages. Finetooth (talk) 05:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Sri Lankan Tamil people
Can you kindly assist me in seeing any violations of WP:CITE requirements. I am not a very good at it and sandy seems to think that there are some left. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 19:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Hoysala Empire
Unfortunately it does that with some infoboxes and not others. I'm trying to move old countries to regions. Putting Asia in the continent box prevents them from moving. See Category:Former countries in Asia. "It should list very few, if any, article pages directly and should mainly contain subcategories." I'm trying to figre out a solution for this.Adimovk5 (talk) 19:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Thank you for your contributions! - Mailer Diablo 11:42, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Srirangam99
Sir, just to let you know, this user is back to removing cited information from a FA, Chola Dynasty.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 12:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've already edited that article a bit so I think I'll abstain...He can't win anyway if he's outnumbered about 10-1.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 05:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * He added info as well, as far as I can see.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 05:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Use of 'Manodharma Sangeetham' in Carnatic Music article
Hi Dinesh. Some time back an editor has added "Manodharma Sangeetham" to Improvisation Section of Carnatic Music without giving English meaning. I added the meaning as 'free style rendering of raga depending on artists expertise and imagination'. However some other editor keeps deleting the meaning. I guess meaning is required. Please add or suggest a better one. Thanks. Naadapriya (talk) 07:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Bhutanatha group of temples
Great work. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:50, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ThanksDineshkannambadi (talk) 00:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I've got an idea
Would you be willing to help us out at Robot? I see that you're an electrical engineer from India. Robot is currently at WP:GAR, which means we have to get our act together or they'll take away our Good Article status. One of the sections is Eastern and Western views. I have a great book on Japanese views of robotics, and we have some active Chinese-Americans on Wikipedia working on robots, but we don't currently have anyone who would be good at giving us an Indian perspective on robotics. Do you have any ideas on this already, or would you like to find something on the subject and contribute a few sentences? (Feel free to reply here or on my talk page.) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 19:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

commons images --Vinayak Kulkarni (Bangalore) (talk) 04:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Dinesh, Thanks for reaching my talk page. I appreciate your efforts on the pedia, more on Karnataka. I did clean up some pages as contents seemed very light on some places info of Karnataka.

As mentioned by you, I will use Temples of Karnataka category for all related images in commons.

Again, you are doing a good work, keep it up and do reach me if you require anything.

--Vinayak Kulkarni (Bangalore) (talk) 04:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Image issue
Thanks for the note. If you could show me the images that Manjunath nikt has uploaded as his own, as well as where you uploaded the images onto Commons, that would be very useful. If you can see any images that are obviously taken from elsewhere, please point out the image and where you believe it was taken from- I definitely appreciate your help reviewing this situation, I just need you to be as specific as possible. J Milburn (talk) 17:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot- I have deleted the two images you pointed out. The collage used a copyrighted map as the base, so I deleted it as a copyvio. The lower resolution of your image from the temple was not in use, did not cite you as a source and was redundant as yours is higher resolution, so I deleted that too. Which images were taken from that webpage? J Milburn (talk) 17:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see, thanks. J Milburn (talk) 17:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Oops...a new image issue: the third image now has a big white space to the right of it on my computer. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 00:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Indian kingdoms featured topic
Hi Dinesh, since you've raised several kingdoms of southern India to FA status, how about listing them as featured topics WP:FT? =Nichalp  «Talk»=  08:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * History of Tamil Nadu, is one option, sine you need to get a "main topic" featured first. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  12:55, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * History of Karnataka is not a FA. Therefore it cannot be a FT. For a featured topic, a main topic must be featured. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  15:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Look it it this way. If, say I get History of Kanpur, Geography of Kanpur, and Climate of Kanpur featured, it cannot be a FT. Why? Because Kanpur is not featured. Similarly you need to get Middle Kingdoms of India featured. Alternatively, if you can get another Hoysala topic featured you can bag a FT: Hoysala Empire (main), Literature of Hoysala, and Hoysala article 3. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  15:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
... and congratulations on another great FA! - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 23:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * My sincere thanks, and my congratulations as well. Keep up the good work, and thanks again, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ditto...congrats on another FA! The closing section of the article (Literature after the Hoysalas) is exactly the kind of info I was hoping to read about. Great job as always.  AreJay (talk) 22:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks and congrats
Thanks for the star and congrats for the new article. I think the Hoysala articles can be nominated for FT. But those which are not FA, have to be at least GA.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 12:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations on the FA, Dinesh. Please keep up the good work. I was glad to help, but most of the credit for copyediting and perseverance in the face of difficulty goes to Dank55. Finetooth (talk) 17:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations Dinesh! Keep it up.  I've been been away for a while and am still trudging my way back.  I had got a bunch of books from the library a while ago.. but have just started opening them now.  One book about Jainism in Karnataka is interesting.  Hope to free up myself more in the coming days and start working on it.  See you around.  Sarvagnya 19:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice to hear from you. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 21:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Images
OK, I've finished the move to Commons. I haven't done any category sorting on them though, so you may want to take a look. As for the issue with the Hindu temples in Karnataka category, did you consider starting a deletion request on Commons to get rid of it completely? Papa November (talk) 22:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Fowler&fowler
I don't especially care. If you have a problem with Fowler, my talk page is not the place to discuss it. I am not a part of dispute resolution, so I suggest you head back to that page and pick up where you left off if you still have issues with him. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 01:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: India page
Hi Dinesh, those kingdoms were removed as more than three continuous examples becomes a list. Since we have to maintain summary style, only the top three were retained. Many other kingdoms have also been omitted because we use the summary style. Its not the notability factor, rather the most prominent. Please list only the top three. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  19:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand. Hope its okay now. Leaving out the Vijayanagara Empire would be a loss for the article.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Please do not edit Talk:Kannada literature page
I would like to request you to not edit the Karnataka literature page and the related pages Halmidi inscription and Extinct Kannada literature until the issues of consistent exaggeration of the antiquity of the early works as well as the false characterization of the extinct works is settled. Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  03:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What you call exaggeration is the opinion of numerous scholars. The fact that there are very few scholars who support your theory does not make the opinion of majority scholars redundant or an exaggeration.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Since we have already had an RfC, which was inconclusive&mdash;in part because the arbitrator, user:Abecedare, has not been on Wikipedia in a number of months&mdash;I will be requesting mediation. I'd like to clarify, I am not making a threat, simply proceeding to the next step in the Wikipedia dispute resolution process.  Regards,  Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  13:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You are more then welcome. The mediators will have to have full access to the previous Rfc, your refusal to come to concensus and your silly attempt to strong arm me, by making false allegations at tha time.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Warkari-Haridasa
The two traditions are started around the same time, both Vaishnava, but in different regions: Maharashtra and Karnataka. I never came across the Haridasa faith but searching for Vithoba. The only Haridasa person i encountered was Purandardas, who starts with a salutation to Vithala, another name of Vithoba. Another important link with Karnataka is Vithoba's temple at Hampi, constructed in 15th century. I will search for references about Vitthala and haridasa and let you know. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 04:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * according to the link, there is no connection between warkari saints and Purandara-dasa.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Peer review
I will be glad to review, although it might take me a few days. Thanks for asking, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Western Chalukya Empire
Sir, user Srirangam, who brings no sources to the table, has deleted large amounts of info from this FA, which I have reverted. Please do leave a warning message on his user's page to bring sources and discuss. Perhaps its time I opened an ANI, since this user has a history of FA abuse. He is also targetting Chola Dynasty, the original reason for his blocks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Locked now.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought I already locked it...done now...Anyway, I need photography enthusiasts for my latest opinion poll and thought you might be interested in the link in my signature..... YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 03:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I will take a look tonight.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 13:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting vacation
Hi Dinesh, As noted at the top of my talk page, I'm taking a break from copyediting in order to pursue other projects. I'm continuing to do peer reviews but not copyedits. I think the c/e break is apt to be long, so there would be no use waiting for me. Perhaps one of the editors at WP:PRV can help. I wish you the best. Finetooth (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Goan Catholics PR
Yes, something has gone wrong in the PR. Can you correct it. Will making PR1 active sove the proble. I had closed PR1 since the PR was showing 2 Goan Catholic PR's. Kensplanet  Talk  Contributions  13:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting and robotics
I'm sorry, as soon as my current copyediting assignments are done, and we reach the Oct 20 deadline for WP:V0.7, I will be devoting myself to collaborating on AI, robotics, and human-interest robotics stories. Best of luck at FAC. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 15:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm having second thoughts. Yesterday I ate at my favorite Pakistani/Indian restaurant, and the owners were very impressed that I had worked on Indian literature articles ... it would be nice to have something on my userpage that gives me something to talk about with my Indian friends!  I have a question: was the work I did on our last collaboration worth a share of the credit for the FA as a co-nominator, do you think? Sorry, that wasn't clear ... I mean, if I did the same amount of work on this article as I did on our last collaboration, could I get co-nom credit?  If not, is there something more I could do to earn that credit? - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 16:19, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I don't need anything for Literature in the Hoysala Empire ... you already gave me a nice barnstar (see User:Dank55/Shiny_things). Michael Devore does do a lot of copyediting ... people will check how many edits they made to the article at FAC, so it's probably not a good idea to offer someone a FAC co-nom unless they do a lot of work on the particular article you're nominating, but yes, if Michael or anyone else makes a lot of edits to an article, and if their work is important and even essential, absolutely!  It's okay to offer Michael a co-nom for your next article (in which case, I wouldn't want to ask to be a co-nom.) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 00:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, there's absolutely no need to feel guilty; different people have wildly different standards for what it takes to be a co-nominator. Malleus Fatuorum and I copyedited History of timekeeping devices at FAC, which already had 7 co-nominators, and they liked our contributions so much that they offered us co-noms too! (We declined.)  Other people feel strongly that their name alone should be on the nomination since they did most of the work.  I am always encouraging people to work together and share credit, because that's how professional writing actually gets done (even if publishers like to hype the writer as the "star", so you often see just one name on a book cover or magazine article).  It's completely up to you.  My personal standard is that someone shouldn't ask for co-nom credit for doing a just few things, but I typically make a lot of edits when I collaborate; I know AP Stylebook and much of TCMOS, which reflects professional writing standards in the US; I know guidelines and policies, including WP's style guidelines; and I am familiar with FAC.  So ... I don't mind asking, but it's up to you.  (Feel free to reply here; I'm watchlisting) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 00:25, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Dan55, I am glad to say that we go ahead with you as the co-nom.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll start work tomorrow. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 03:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Whie you are at it, I will be verifying citation page numbers and such, to ensure accuracy.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

←Dinesh, I'm sorry but I've had a lot of new work come up (including for WP:V0.7) and I won't be able to help you with this article. I'm glad Moni and M. Devore are being so helpful; I'm sure the 3 of you will do fine. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 19:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire
Amazing work with Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire, Dinesh. I learnt so much from that article. I have a few suggestions for improvement below. {{cquote|The 11th century witnessed intense competition between the Western Chalukyas and their arch-rivals, the Cholas of Tanjore. The contemporaneous Eastern Chalukya Dynasty of Vengi, cousins of the Western Chalukyas, became increasingly influenced by the Cholas through their marital ties.[67] According to Kannada scholar R. Narasimhacharya, despite some important contributions, literary development may have suffered during this period because of Chola invasions into Kannada lands.[68]}
 * While I understand that there's a need to give the historical context of the powers in throne at various points in time (given the subject), you should consider separating those into background sections separate from those that talk about the literature itself. For example the text below, though completely relevant to the article, doesn't gel with the text following it in the same para (there is an abrupt change in flow). Nor does it fit the section title.

I leave it to your discretion on this. If and when you do the summarisation, please drop me a note. I'll probably do some copyediting. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done Simplified.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 17:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The text in the lead should be sharpened to focus more on the literature and grouping the story about the empires to one para.
 * DoneDineshkannambadi (talk) 00:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I will work on this.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The article has a lot of content. In the interest of summary style, the sections need to be condensed with the original text moved to separate main articles.
 * I think about 5% condensation will happen when I combine citations. We can cut down a bit while cpediting. You are right, the article is pushing the limits a bit.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Do we need to give context in parentheses to the extent of explaining that Karna was a half-brother of Arjuna? It'll definitely help the uninitiated, but they can always look the linked articles, right? Similarly, in one instance, you explain who Shaivites are, and later you explain who Shaiva Brahmins are. This adds to the already lengthy article.
 * I agree. But Moni3 wanted clarity in "who was who" to ensure that a reader, not acquainted with Indian culture, would not get lost while reading about characters from epics. But I will revisit this.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Doesn't it merit a mention that the Veerashaiva movement and the emphasis on using native metre and vocabulary has a similarity with the movement of Azhwars and Nayanmars?
 * yes. I will find the right citation for this.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done I have added a citation that the monotheistic belief in Shiva may have been an influence from the Nayanmars. I will try to search for similarities betwen Vachanas though and earlier Tamil poems. As such, I have already mentioned that atleast one scholar claims that the Vachana idealogy may have originated from the Upanishads and Agamas.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 17:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. thanks for your commentsDineshkannambadi (talk) 15:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


 * On a related note, I recommend reverting the recent edit which changed the references to use a scroll area. This behavior is prohibited by the Manual of Style (see MOS:SCROLL). I suspect that if an editor who was a stickler for MoS style in featured articles saw it, the existing FA Chennai would be changed as well (it probably only has scrollable references because it is an older featured article that predates the MoS requirement.) -- Michael Devore (talk) 09:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


 * DoneDineshkannambadi (talk) 19:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the comments. I will pay close attention to these suggestions.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

On a quick read-through of the entire article, it looks like you've really improved it quite a lot over the past two weeks. I would still like to get in a couple more longer editing sessions, probably with talk page feedback to you, though. -- Michael Devore (talk) 08:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Chandrayaan-1
Dear Dinesh, I appreciate your contribution to Chandrayaan-1 article. I didnt intend in pin pointing some one by mentioning regionalism. just felt bad when important info of Satish Dhawan Space center, Sriharikota was not mentioned at all in Intro para while other info have been mentioned. Carry on your good work. Thnx Indianprithvi (talk) 15:36, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Good luck.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dinesh,

Someone has modified ur sentence to "The ISRO chief scientist Mylswamy Annadurai was identified as the project director and mission leader". Im not sure on the authenticity of this sentence, but it was ambigious so I modified it to "The ISRO chief scientist Mylswamy Annadurai was the Project Director for this mission." Request you to Review it and make this WP more readable, as its read by international community.

Also the sentence "Chandrayaan in many languages roughly means" doesnt sound good. Plz modify it to say "Chandrayaan in Sanskrit means moon-craft or moon vehicle" like that whatever is more accurate

As its important article in presenting our nation, so we shud present confidence rather than ambigous things.

Thnx, Indianprithvi (talk) 09:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * For the next few weeks, this article will receive numerous hits. I suggest we wait for the euphoria to settle, when it will be easy to copy edit the article and maintain its stability. Right now, no matter how many citations we provide, it will be vandalised repeatedly. I suggest we create a section "Notable scientists" at the bottom and completely remove the lines mentioning the two scientists currently in the lead. There must be at least a dozen important men involved in the project whose names we can get out of the Chandrayaan main web page or somewhere.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 12:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Kannada language
Sir, For alomost a month now, an IP has been adding unencyclopaedic info which has been reverted repeatedly by myself and several other users. The IP has not bothered to create an account or open a discussion. He is now eying Karnataka article. Please put a soft lock on Kannada so the IP may consider to log in and start a discussion.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 18:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * locked,  YellowMonkey  ( click here to choose Australia's next top model ) 04:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks,Dineshkannambadi (talk) 12:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Vithoba: Failed FAC
Would you please look at the article and guide me what I should do next? Also do you know any efficient peer reviewers (except yourself of course), who can point more faults? I need someone who has the patience to go line by line through the article and detect any "lack of coherence or topic sentences", which was a major factor in the failed FAC. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Currently, there seems to be a real shortage of copy editors, the existing good ones generally tied down by too many projects. Sometimes, when readers find it difficult to understand an invloved topic, they generalise it as lack of coherence. Indian religion related articles are the best examples of difficult topics. User:Nvvchar is an user who seems to have good knowledge of Hinduism related topics and he seems to often write DYK articles on Sanskrit related topics. If he is free and interested, he can guide you regarding clarifications, topic sentences and such.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Kannada language: Featured Article!
Dear Dinesh, I curious to know as to why Kannada Language article is not featured article, yet! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parthakr (talk • contribs) 14:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Copyedits
I think I'll have time later tonight to invest in an involved copyediting session on Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire. It will probably be spread out over several hours, but I'll keep each edit to a single sentence, so you can more easily revert or rework any problems you have with the changes. -- Michael Devore (talk) 23:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * In the mainstream paragraph, "Ranna's lexicon Rannakanda (990)" comes before the wikilinked "Ranna (983) found it suitable to compare his patron". The "Age of Ranna" section with introduction comes later, but the 2nd wikilink is probably ok there. -- Michael Devore (talk) 02:57, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:India#.22Official_Classical_Languages.22_Segment_in_Box
Could you make my requested change to the article? I couldn't do it myself somehow. --Kalarimaster (talk) 16:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire‎ final edits
I should be able to get together my final edits and talk page remarks tonight. After that, you can decide whether to take it directly to FAC, or perhaps consider asking another editor for a final look. I've worked on the article for so much, I no longer have the necessary distance to see remaining issues and have begun to second-guess myself. The wording is a bit rougher in some spots than others, but you have made very significant improvements there in the past two weeks and the entire article reads better for your work. I don't think you should get a flat rejection on prose at FAC, though further work may be requested to ultimately get promoted. And, of course, there are other issues of content, structure, and controversy unrelated to prose which can come into play, as with any FAC. -- Michael Devore (talk) 20:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 21:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Classical Language - Kannada
Dear DNK,

I have read with interest the discussions on the talk page of artcile on India on the above subject. Is the info box issue resolved or still under intense debate? Let me study the final proceedings of expert committe meeting, instead of basing on News clippings before I enter into the fray.

Incidentally, I have now managed to put in nearly 18 DYKs in the last few months and three more are under acceptance. Thanks to you for guiding me on the first DYK and also few others.--Nvvchar (talk) 11:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Classical language status
Hi Dinesh, yes I am pretty busy. I get tied up answering more questions than I can contribute content these days :( Could please provide a draft of what the text should look like on the India talk page? Thanks! =Nichalp   «Talk»=  07:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Karnataka kingdoms and Indianisation of South East Asia
Contrary to popular opinion this cite says that it was the Calukya, Rashtrkuta influence that led to the Indianisation of SE Asia. Taprobanus (talk) 14:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Which page is it on. I could not find that in the link page. Regarding influences, over the period 1-1000AD, just about all the famous South Indian empires had extensive trade with SE Asia in addition to the west. So their influences are bound to be accumalative. Chalukya includes Eastern Chalukya from Andhra Pradesh. An interesting recent finding/debate is the prolific sculptures of "corn" in many shapes and sizes, in Hoysala temples, especialy in the hands of certain deities. This according to some scholars was because of extensive Hoysala trade with S.America where corn is said to have originated. Corn as an object of sculpture is probably not found or was not prolific in centuries prior.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The cite says it is the traders, artisana and Brahmins from the west coast (karnatak) that spread the influence then followed by Pallavas and others in Page 124, 125.....Taprobanus (talk) 17:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, my google book search prevents reading those two pages! Will pull it up later. Thanks,Dineshkannambadi (talk) 17:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

FAC
My pleasure...your articles have been very educational, and I look forward to reading many more. I can already see that you have several potential FAs in the pipeline, so all the very best as you work on them! AreJay (talk) 00:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, unfortunately I can't seem to dig out enough time to work on FAs these days, but wanted to work on Districts of Karnataka and get it to WP:FL – this is still a medium term project for me. I've started collecting some etymological information that I plan to add to the article (similar to this FL) here (some may or may not be accurate), but can't seem to find the origins of some district names. Would you happen to know how any of their names are derived? Thanks! AreJay (talk) 00:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Dinesh AreJay (talk) 06:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Hi DK. Congrats on getting Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire featured. I wish I had registered my support vote as well. :-) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 16:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on gaining Featured Article status for Kannada literature in the Western Chalukya Empire as a recognition of all your hard work. I was pleased to see it went much smoother for you than a couple of FACs in the recent past. -- Michael Devore (talk) 19:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats. C 21 K talk 11:45, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Dinesh sir, I will take your advice. actually that IP forced me to make a comment on those issues. honestly speaking, I never thought of creating articles/DYK's because i need lot of time to work on it. As of now, I am busy with my projects and university exams. I also decided to be away from Wikipedia for next 30-40 days. once my exams ends i will be active again. Sorry,I don't have enough knowledge about poets. Thanks C 21 K <em style="font family:Verdana; color:Black">talk 11:34, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Kingdom of Mysore FAR
nominated Kingdom of Mysore for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  02:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Map of Mysore
Why did you remove the map? I agree that there is already a map of Mysore in the article but the one that exists is for the kingdom of Mysore and the one I added is of the princely state. I found the map to be comprehensive not missing even the minute details. That's why I added.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 15:45, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ravichander, my removing the map was not a knee jerk reaction. There is a second map which represents Kingdom/princely state in the 19th-20th century. It has better perspective from a India point of view. The map you added is crowded with so many details and it a zoomed in map, which if anything is confusing. Three maps is too many. I hope you dont mind. If you really insist, you may add it in such a way that it does not hamper the format of the box. Thank you.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Dinesh
Thanks. That is a good start. Once you are done, we will compare both sources and hopefully be able to find some solution. Have a good dinner. :)  Docku:  What up?  02:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

PR
I will be glad to look at it, but it will take me a few days. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Take your time.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 03:50, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Requested move
Please see: Requested move. Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  20:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Kannada literature, 1600–1900 CE
Do you want to review the article as "Kannada literature, 1600–1900 CE" or as "Kannada literature in Kingdom of Mysore". Let me know, i will then go ahead with the further PR. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can, just give it a general review for now as best as you can, looking at the central content of the article. Don't worry about the name. I will consolidate your comments in one place and work on it in a few days.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 16:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello! I saw your article listed the other day and was thinking about reviewing it. I believe I saw a review from Fowler and Fowler (that looked tough, though possibly fair). I am very busy. My priority is a thesis in real life, and Vithoba FAC if I can help with that. I will see what I can do. The topic of your article interests me, for Jainism, yes, but also for language, literature and sociological reasons as well. I will learn more than I give by copyediting. There is some other work I want to do at Wiki in limited time also. Hmmm. Let's see how I go. I'm saying "yes", I always say "yes" even when I shouldn't. I'm going to be away for a month soon, but I'll try to squeak as much as I can in for you in the next day or two. Cheers. Alastair Haines (talk) 19:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah! 500–2000 AD ... better still ... an overview. I'll see what I will see. Have a nice day Dinesh (if I may call you that). Alastair Haines (talk) 23:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I will continue my PR on the article talk (if the PR is closed), when the issue is resolved. Please let me know. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I only just saw your message. Yes. I will look into the matter you mention. Scanning Indian sources (legally) is a very good thing for us to do. Please be patient, I am winding down Wiki involvement for a month. I should be steadily active after that. Your article may well get a little attention during my month off, because it overlaps with my own studies. Cheers. Alastair Haines (talk) 16:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy holidays
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Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; at some point, our paths have crossed and I've found your comments amusing, helpful or thought-provoking—I'll let you guess which! Wishing you and yours a joyous holiday season, and happiness, health and hopefulness in 2009. I trust you'll enjoy this little token, a favourite performance of Baby, it's Cold Outside, for your holiday amusement. Best, Risker (talk) 01:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Dinesh, season's greetings! Looking forward to working with you again soon!  I'm working on a project to bring more copyeditors to Wikipedia and nurture the ones we've got; please let me know when you have another article to copyedit! (Watchlisting for a few days) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 19:43, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Dinesh, we are having a white xmas from coat to coat for the first time in 25 yrsTaprobanus (talk) 21:01, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

PS I will get to the PR in the next 24 hours, hopefully sooner.
 * Thanks very much - reviweing PR requests can be quite addictive ;-) Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your review and Happy New Year! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:33, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wishing a great new year full of FAs and DYks ;). -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merry Christmas to you too. Dinesh. Have a great year ahead. Kensplanet <b style="color:black;">T</b><b style="color:green;">C</b> 07:15, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the Christmas wishes, Dinesh! May you have a healthy and prosperous New Year !  Best regards, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 16:00, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Dinesh. Have a happy New Year! I'll comment on the Kannada lit issue sometime in the next day or two. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 00:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Year end cleaning
Congrats on all the recognition you have been getting for your work on Wikipedia! I was going through the old posts on my talk page and saw this post from you of couple of years back, and just wanted to check out how you have been doing on wiki! Jay (talk) 08:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

re: Greetings and review
Hi DK. Owing to certain personal developments (good ones), I'm keeping busy. Will work on it when I find time. Thanks for your greetings and I wish you the same. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 16:43, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Greeting
Wish you a very happy new year and my apologies for next replying earlier.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:14, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2009
''' Happy New Year !!!! I wish for you and your family to have a wonderful 2009!!! Have fun partying and may you make many edits!!!   - Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop  12:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Happy 2009! :-) Nope, you did not forget.- Ravichandar <sub style="color:aqua; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My coffee shop 13:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
All the best Dinesh for you and your family!  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I locked the Chola again.  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 03:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Kannada literature in the Kingdom of Mysore
Actually if you check Peer review/List of Governors of Bombay/archive1, I have already placed a notice '''If you are willing to review this List and want a review of your article, then please inform me. I'll surely review it.''' It would had been fine if you had told me there itself. I'll peer review it soon Kensplanet <b style="color:black;">T</b><b style="color:green;">C</b> 18:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Kannada literature in the Kingdom of Mysore
Hi Dinesh. I did some minor copyediting on the article and posted a few comments at PR. Happy New Year. Finetooth (talk) 01:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello from me, too. I have replied to your inquiry about this article in detail at my talk page, with concerns that I have about the usefulness of any edits I could make there. -- Michael Devore (talk) 12:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Mediation on Chola Dynasty
After the recent edit war at Chola Dynasty, that page has been permanently protected, and I have been asked to step in as a mediator-administrator. Please see talk:Chola Dynasty for details. &mdash; Sebastian 07:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, unless backed up by RS sources none of changes will stick. Taprobanus (talk) 16:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

How to use this top Indian Wikipedian list for effective collaboration
Hi, I have added a section 'How to use this list for effective collaboration' on User:Tinucherian/Indians WP page to see if we can put this list to really good use, pl give your thoughts on the same and we can take it further from there. Thanks. Vjdchauhan (talk) 18:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

Copyediting
Alas, no. As I say at the top of my talk page, "I'm taking a break from copyedits for a while to pursue other Wikipedia interests." I posted this message a couple of months ago, and I should perhaps replace "a while" with "a long while". I may eventually plunge deeply into c/e again if the other interests lose their allure, but so far they haven't. My editorial life seems brim full. Good luck with the review. Finetooth (talk) 05:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Help in Copyediting: Hi Dinesh, I just went through your page and m really flabbergasted!! had come across your name earlier whenever i had gone through wiki pages on Karnataka,Kannada history.But didnt knw then that all the stars available in wiki are in your kitty!!You indeed are doing a marvelous job!! my regards on the same. I share almost the same hobbies as you do and tho a Dentist by training, my calling has been History;Karnataka in particular n Indian in general. Literature particularly 'Kannada Sahitya' stands next only to history in my list. These two now form my optionals in the civil services examination. Coming to the subject finally, I am in need of guidance in improving the overall quality of my page Namadhari naik. I just came across you advising one of the members regarding copyediting n I straightaway landed at your page. I also would have no qualms in contributing to any of the history or literature issues if required. Its really nice to come across a learned Kannadiga on net. Have hardly seen any amongst us with such conviction n authority as you are. These compliments are not coupled with my request for help ,n r honest ones:) Tej smiles (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Pics of Kalleswara Swami Temple, Bagali, Harpanahalli, Davangere Karnataka
See this link. I think either ragavbesthar or shashi kumar have taken beautiful snaps of this Hoysala-Chalukya temple. Initially I think this temple had been given enormous importance during the time of the Rashtrakutas.

Do see this link below, Dinesh. See if you can contact those guys and get more snaps. Other than this, none is available on the net, at least as far as I could see. May be as per due process you could upload this snaps among the worthy monuments of Karnataka

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80553941@N00/243756569/in/set-72057594072611221/?addedcomment=1#comment721576131

Srirangam99 (talk) 11:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)