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Shahrukh Khan
Hi, you cannot simply assign "A" to an article. There is a formal process before which it could be rated an A class. The article needs to be a GA before that. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  06:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Will correct myself. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 15:11, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

GA nominations
After your failed nomination of Kolkata Knight Riders you might want to reconsider your nomination of 2011 Cricket World Cup. I'd recommend asking for the folks at WT:CRIC to take a look at the article. Nev1 (talk) 15:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

A typical mistake

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
 * Closing unhelpful discussion. Please be nice to each other. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 18:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Here, you forgot to add susbt:afd bottom. And due to this, the entire log page was under the change and it looked very weird. It made me smile though, but take care of it next time :)  Yash  t  101   13:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 06:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey Dipankan, Its not wise to close a discussion when you are involved in the discussion. Let me go through the process..., See Articles for deletion, clearly mentioned. Why dont you follow the guidelines before act, it is not a good practice. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 13:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * While I agree with you, I want to see the sentence where it is written that even if consensus is reached to keep, an editor who has caste his vote cannot close it.
 * Also this sentece: Why dont you follow the guidelines before act is not appropriate. You seem to be like scolding him rather then suggesting. Not a good faith thing to do  Yash  t  101   13:40, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry Yash, I do not consider that scolding. And I think when someone makes mistake he should take it humbly and seriously. You are over reacting. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 13:54, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Should be told humbly. Telling Why dont you follow the guidelines before act is not a humble way. I don't want to disscuss this anymore as it is getting irrelavent  Yash  t  101   14:12, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry again, may be I am not that humble. Let me handle things my way please. You are wasting my time, you are over doing things here unnecessarily. Telling others what is appropriate or not also inappropriate. I do not expect you to comment after me on User talk pages ever, hope you understand my point. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 14:41, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I see nothing wrong in requesting another user to follow guidelines. I request you all to not argue over trivial matters like this and please go back to constructive editing. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * But I doubt that Yash makes a note of this. I notice he has been doing this since last month, maybe he is waiting for a warning!. Srikanth can you please drop a message on his talk page, maybe that will work. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 15:40, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I m sorry if I ever did this. Can you tell me that what have I done so that I need a warning?  Yash  t  101   16:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ansumang, I'm afraid I can't. I've been asked by an admin to not post on his talk page. Also, the last time I interacted with him, people spoke I'll of me behind my back. As such, I do not wish to ruin my reputation. If the matter persists, feel free to approach an admin. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:02, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't wish to badger anyone or to be troublesome, my apologies ansumag if you felt bad. And I m still not clear that what warning can be given to me?  Yash  t  101   17:09, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh I dint know that, no problem Srikanth, everything is cool here. Yash should understand the point not to overdo things, thats all. Yash the answer lies on my previous comments. Its very simple. Do not make any comment unnecessarily. This discussion here is completely irrelevant which was started by you. And what terrible is you dont get the point. And next time you feel like giving advice do it on his talk page. Sorry Dipankan for the mess. If you are still not clear ask an admin. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 17:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Re act

 * I just don't know what is the benefit by all these. Sometimes I feel that Wikipedia is destroyed by attacks, and fights over small issues like this make my feelings worse. Probably should I leave Wikipedia? Yes, I admit that I made mistakes, but this does not mean that you guys complaining about me did not make a single mistake. When it comes to discussions, try to keep yourself cool. Did you people do that? Na. Ansuman, let me say a thing: When I make a list of some mistakes you'd made, and discussion gets hot, what would you feel? Never did I have a negative impact from experienced editors like you. Do you have any reply? Look at the discussion and then you feel if it was you towards which it was pointed, how would you feel? Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 11:16, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey I already apologised for the mess. I am really sorry. This discussion had got nothing to do with you. There is no point discussing further. Drop it. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ
 * As stated above, I'm really sorry too. Let us drop the matter before anything serious happens. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Let's close it. And thanks. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 12:25, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

New Pages update
Hey :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Suri 100 (talk) 11:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

You are now a file mover
I've looked over your record, and I've decided to give you the file mover user right. You seem like you know what you're doing and won't cause any issues with it. (Sorry this took so long, somehow your message got shunted off into my spam filter; that shouldn't happen again). The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 18:53, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks dude, amar sobcheye bhalo bondhu (My best Wiki friend), thanks. I'll use the rights sensibly with common sense. Much time I would clear backlog that arises sometimes at CAT:RENAME, and then every file with wrong name that comes to my way. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 04:15, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Mail
 Yash  t  101   09:21, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ with Google+  Yash  t  101   17:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Re:WP:Editor review/Achowat
Hey there Dipankan, I had asked you a question at my ER that you haven't responded to, so I thought I'd ping you here. You had indicated that there was work to do in the File: namespace. I'm going to admit, I'm wholly unaware of what can be done to help there. Is there a page of backlogs or what-have-you or another place I can be directed to find out, essentially, what needs to be done to improve there? Achowat (talk) 18:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of international cricket centuries by Ross Taylor


The article List of international cricket centuries by Ross Taylor has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Too few international centuries to warrant a stand alone list. The number as seen with the template International cricket centuries is a minimum of 25 international centuries before the individual feat is noteworthy (if that's the right word) for a stand alone list.  Taylor unfortunately has 11 international centuries.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 16:58, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Good articles and copying within Wikipedia
Hi. :) I just wanted to let you know that there were copyright issues with the article Bangladesh at the 2011 Commonwealth Youth Games, which constituted a copyright infringement of Tonga at the 2011 Commonwealth Youth Games. While it is very easy to repair infringement from one article to another, left unaddressed such issues are a quickfail of the GA criteria. I've repaired the issue of attribution here, so it's no longer a problem, but I just wanted to point out the potential issue to you and ask you to keep an eye out for it when assessing GAs. (Generally, you can find the problem just by doing google spot-searches for text, which will find the original, like this one.) I'm off to explain to the contributor the issues with copying and pasting without attribution from other articles. Thanks! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Your contributed article, List of international cricket centuries by Younis Khan


Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, List of international cricket centuries by Younis Khan. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Younis Khan. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Younis Khan - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Bgwhite (talk) 06:59, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know why many CSD's are going wrong. Just joking, let me say there is no problem with article and speedy has been declined. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 14:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks man
Thanks for that barnstar.It's great to see my contributions are finally recognized!.  Srikar Kashyap << Talk >> 07:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

List of international cricket centuries by Kumar Sangakkara
This is an automated message from MadmanBot. I have performed a search with the contents of List of international cricket centuries by Kumar Sangakkara, and it appears to be very similar to another Wikipedia page: Kumar Sangakkara. It is possible that you have accidentally duplicated contents, or made an error while creating the page&mdash; you might want to look at the pages and see if that is the case. If you are intentionally trying to rename an article, please see Help:Moving a page for instructions on how to do this without copying and pasting. If you are trying to move or copy content from one article to a different one, please see Copying within Wikipedia and be sure you have acknowledged the duplication of material in an edit summary to preserve attribution history.

It is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article. MadmanBot (talk) 14:11, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Again bots caught me wrong. It has been attributed to the authors of Kumar Sangakkara. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 14:18, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You've definitely duplicated the content. I've been noticing this since you created a similar list for Ross Taylor. There is no need for separate article for "List of centuries" as the main article is way too short and list of centuries can be very well accommodated there itself. However, the Younis Khan article is okay as the main article is of sufficient length. Hence, while creating lists make sure that it is good enough to be a stand-alone list and also have the criteria in mind (min 25 centuries). I had a similar problem when I created List of international cricket centuries by V. V. S. Laxman, so thought of notifying you. &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  05:01, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikiessay projects proposal
Hi, you proposed a new Wikimedia project, namely m:Wikiessay on Meta some time ago. As you probably know, there is no real process to deal with proposals for new projects currently. It is the aim of the proposed Sister Projects Committee to change that. As a consequence, we would like to see how the proposed m:new projects process works out on proposals by applying it on the 3 proposals which were made this year. As Wikiessay is of those proposals, you can finally expect something to happen there in the next time! :-) Best regards, -- MF-W 20:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage prototype released
Hey Dipankan001! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:44, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

My !vote at your RfA
Hey, I just wanted to mention that I did !vote as oppose at your RfA, but I do believe that you can become an admin someday if this RfA doesn't work out. I look forward to a time in the future when I'll be able to support you, I just don't think you are ready just yet. By the way, the Jimmy Wales thing on the edit page is a little creepy. I don't think it is too big of an issue, but it does become distracting and it could be difficult for editors to create a well thought out response Ryan Vesey  Review me!  05:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of The Winning Way for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Winning Way is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/The Winning Way until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Max Viwe &#124; Your Turn  11:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Editor Review
Please review me. Strike  Eagle  ✈  14:45, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

 * Thanks friend. I will take the positives from it. Thank you all fro your support. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 07:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Past is past.........get over it and take only positives with you.....I presume you learnt many things from your RfA.....as TSU said.....u could have become an admin if this was 2006 or 7....anyway....take it easy and move one...dont get discouraged..we need users like you who are friendly and helping..

 Strike  Eagle  ✈  07:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC) 

Talkback
 Strike Eagle  ✈  11:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

 * Thanks friend. Although this barnstar's respect comes to me, the credit for making is still with you! I have attributed the work here: WP:IPL. Thanks for such a brilliant work! Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 12:03, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Great.... planning of creating a few wikilove templates too...any ideas?  Strike <font color="#306EFF  ">Eagle  ✈  12:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As you're a temporary vice coordinator I leave this duty upon you. Remember: Reward will always come with hard work. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 12:07, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I would have been a normal co-ordinator if I would be active.As I semi-retire in June due to education purposes..I decided to be a temp.  <font color="#FF0 0CC">Strike <font color="#306EFF  ">Eagle  ✈  12:32, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I see that you were assessing templates. So wanted to tell that Templates (no matter what they are) don't have importance. The importance parameter is to be left empty. Thanks :) → TheSpecialUser TalkContributions* 12:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No harm is done in the end :-) Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 12:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have added direct link for new members to join the project in the main template. Thanks  <font color="#FF0 0CC">Strike <font color="#306EFF  ">Eagle  ✈  12:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
 <font color="#FF0 0CC">Strike <font color="#306EFF  ">Eagle  ✈  13:59, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Bangladesh_at_the_2011_Commonwealth_Youth_Games
Could you clarify (on the article's talk page) what precisely the copyright concerns are, and would you please address the other issue brought up on the talk page? The question on the writing in a GA is important enough to warrant discussion. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:08, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but you have not addressed my concerns. Please do so. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 03:38, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage/New Pages Feed
Hey all :). A notification that the prototype for the New Pages Feed is now live on enwiki! We had to briefly take it down after an unfortunate bug started showing up, but it's now live and we will continue developing it on-site.

The page can be found at Special:NewPagesFeed. Please, please, please test it and tell us what you think! Note that as a prototype it will inevitably have bugs - if you find one not already mentioned at the talkpage, bring it up and I'm happy to carry it through to the devs. The same is true of any additions you can think of to the software, or any questions you might have - let me know and I'll respond.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Status
Achowat and I noticed that while Ducknish has 4,000 edits, (the graduating edit count is around 1-2,000) you have not graduated him, Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Templates (at bottom) and we do not see any evidence that you have helped him/given him advice (by going through your and his talkpage). Regards. Dan653 (talk) 21:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Drive-by nominations
Can you please stop making these drive-by nominations to GAN/FLC etc as well as incomplete GAN reviews? It is poor form to not communicate with major contributors of the articles and nominate them when you haven't contributed to the articles. And, your GAN reviews are also not well thought out either and don't follow process. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:00, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

FA-GA June
Vice-coordinator of WP:IPL, → TheSpecialUser TalkContributions* 09:26, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Goodbye
Hi and Bye Dipankan...I'm now retiring from WIki due to my education concerns.......thanks for the great help you did to make me a rollbacker...and inspiring me to work more here.....I will return after two years.....I know its quite a long time..but I have no other way... Thanks a lot!  <font color="#307D7E ">ƊṨṫƦⓘ₭ϱ <font color="#7d312f">𝝨Ƌǥɭϱ Ω  14:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, I'll miss you a lot. Please return as soon as possible. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 06:30, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi there
So, I came across your RfA the other day, though by the time I saw it, it was over. Take this positively, please. Relax, stop going around collecting flags. I like you as an editor, and a vandal fighter. You are doing good in those fields, stick to them for now. Relax, but don't think a new right will make you any better. There are plenty of excellent users who have no extra rights. Relax, take care, enjoy yourself. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 13:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:Murali Vijay 2012.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Murali Vijay 2012.jpg. I noticed the description page specifies that the media is being used under a claim of fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first non-free content criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information or which could be adequately covered with text alone. If you believe this media is not replaceable, please:


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 * I had requested the deletion of it. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 15:44, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Please explain your speedy deletion tag
Why have you tagged File:Wikipedia error message as seen on the page Sheela Murthy.png for speedy deletion as copyright infringement? I do not see any copyright infringement on that page. Ryan Vesey Review me!  16:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know why Drmies removed the tag; the image is a copyright violation of GUI- Graphical User Interface- You claim the image to be yours while the Windows 7 interface is not created by you, its created by Microsoft. So you are violating copyrights, aren't you? I'd be putting the speedy deletion tag again after this discussion. If you do put; please remove "My own work"; replace it with "Microsoft" fair use rationale and make it low resolution. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 08:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Your tag is still incorrect. I hadn't considered the Windows 7 interface; however, the criterion applies only in unequivocal cases, where there is no free-content material on the page worth saving.  All I need to do is crop it and upload a new version.  I was using chrome as my web browser, before I modify I wanted to make sure that I am still allowed to leave anything Chrome related in the screenshot.  I assume I am able to because Chromium is open source, but I may be incorrect.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  17:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I hadn't mentioned the Chrome thing; I also use Chrome. The thing is that don't claim it to be your own work (you may after you upload the cropped version) because it is infringing copyright from Microsoft. That's all what I said. Cheers.  Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 06:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Talk Back
Are you watching my talk page (please state in reply to save the time) <b style="text-shadow:dimgray 0em 0em 0.8em,black -0.2em -0.2em 0.8em,black 0.2em 0.2em 0.8em"> →TSU  tp*</b> 14:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

AfD closures
There were 2 mistakes, this fixed by a bot and this closed by me. Please be little more cautious. I reckon you to use this which works in Moonbook and Modern style. This is a great tool and helpful to relist and close debates with a single click. <b style="text-shadow:dimgray 0em 0em 0.8em,black -0.2em -0.2em 0.8em,black 0.2em 0.2em 0.8em"> →TSU tp*</b> 16:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * In regard to Articles for deletion/Charles Kegel (2nd nomination), you closed that one 13 hours early. It's hardly controversial, but please wait the full seven days. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 19:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I did not know that I'd to substitute the template. Thank you for notifying me. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 06:17, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Review
SorrY for the delay, but I was examining your work and I m done with it so left a review at the page. Hope that it'll help :)  →TSU tp* 14:16, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edits
I see you've been trying a few of the Pywikipedia tasks out with your main account - that's great, having a little play to see how it works, but do you think you could possibly take out the bot from the edit summary so you don't fool people into thinking you're running automatically? Or create a separate account DipankanAuto or something to do stuff like that on. You're just technically not allowed to do it with a main human account. Thank you! <font color="#151B8D"> Rcsprinter  (state the obvious (or not))  18:48, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have created User:DipankanBot and filed a request at BRFA. Dipankan  ( Have a chat? ) 06:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Andre Wagener for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Andre Wagener is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Andre Wagener until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 22:17, 31 May 2012 (UTC)