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Proposed deletion of Ruhani Satsang – School of Spirituality


The article Ruhani Satsang – School of Spirituality has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * This article lacks a clear assertion of notability or reliable sources verifying its accuracy. I was unable to find sources to improve the article.

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Ruhani Satsang – School of Spirituality
Thank you for removing the {prod} tag, indicating that you are ready for this article to be reviewed. Since it still includes no assertion of notability and no reliable independent sources, I have deleted the article in accordance with Wikipedia's speedy fdeletion process. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I didn't understand why you used the A7 criterion for speedy deletion. Could you explain what I have to do to undelete the page? Thanks--Direnni100 (talk) 22:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll be happy to restore your article; can you tell me what specific part of the notability criteria this organization meets, and provide three links to books, magazine articles, or newspaper articles that have been written about this subject? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The organization meets the primary criteria of Wikipedia:ORG as it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. The sources are three articles on two Italian Newspapers, "Il Tirreno" http://www.iltirreno.it and "La Nazione" http://www.lanazione.it . In detail the articles are:


 * 1st source: Newspaper "La Nazione", 7 October, 2008, title "Quinta edizione per il Best seller di Marcenaro" (Fifth edition for the best seller of Marcenaro).
 * 2nd source: Newspaper "Il Tirreno", 20 October, 2008, title "Quinta edizione del best seller di Marcenaro" (Fifth edition of the best seller of Marcenaro).
 * 3rd source: Newspaper "La Nazione", 3 January, 2009, title "Libro di Marcenaro alla Quinta Edizione" (Book of Marcenaro at its Fifth Edition).


 * The three articles concern the book with the title "School of Spirituality" (Ruhani Satsang in hindi), fully dedicated to the activity of Ruhani Satsang - School of Spirituality. --Direnni100 (talk) 17:16, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * 1st source : I cannot verify that it exists.
 * 2nd source: This also does not appear in that newspaper's archive
 * 3rd source: No results found -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * 2nd source: Found it
 * 1st and 3rd source: I cannot retrieve them online, but I can scan the papers (not before Saturday): please can you tell me where I can upload them? In the meantime is it possible to undelete the article? Thanks. --Direnni100 (talk) 01:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I am not willing to undelete the article without sources, because someone else will just tag it for deletion under the same rules, wasting everyone's time. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:08, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. Now you have the 2nd source verifiable by the link, the other two are only on paper. I can scan them and send to a not public repository within Saturday (as I don't have the rights to public them) and you can verify the source reading them. Could you tell me please where I can send the digital scan of the papers (e-mail...)? Thanks--Direnni100 (talk) 20:51, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I've looked at the second source, and done a Google translation. That article is about a book called 'The School of Spirituality,' by an author named Pier Franco Marcenaro Lunigiana.  Your article was about an organization called 'Ruhani Satsang- School of Spirituality,' headed by a person named Kirpal Singh.  While it seems likely that the Lunigiana book is indeed notable, the article doesn't seem to have anything to do with the organization you were writing about.  Given that, I don't see a reason to scan more articles that aren't about the organization that is the subject of this article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:10, 15 August 2012 (UTC)