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Requests for adminship/Elonka 3
Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holiday season and all the off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools.  My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a great new year, --Elonka 07:38, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Omega Octant
Could you explain why you removed the Proposed deletion template from the article Omega Octant? It would appear to me that the explaination given in the narrative ('The article is not notable, and has no references to verify its contents. As such, it is just an in-universe repetition of various plot facts from Star Trek episode articles, and is totally duplicative of them') was reasonable. Did you advise the editor who placed it there of your actions? --Gavin Collins (talk) 09:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * While I'm not entirely familiar with the Star Fleet Universe, I felt that with the rapid pace of deletions targeted at SFU, that proposed deletion wasn't the best path for that article. Not that I am entirely convinced of its notability one way or the other; just that PROD is/was probably the wrong process for that article at that particular time. and I have both participated in related discussions on content, especially at AfD, and I happen to disagree with him on notability and, I presume, interpretation of WP:FICT and related guidelines. That being said, if you believe the article to fail WP:N, by all means take it to AFD. You may also wish to bundle the nomination with Alpha Octant. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 17:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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AfD question: Recombinant text
I have very little experience in AfD matters, and am asking for your input before nominating an article for deletion, because, quite frankly, I do not want to be seen as someone who capriciously nominates articles which do not meet AfD standards.

If you have time, please take a look at this article. It was created by the person who—as the intro asserts—is the very person who coined the term. Most of the edits are by that person. Most, if not all, of the sources link back to this person. I mean, at best it appears to me to constitute OR, at worst, self-promotion. But maybe I'm seeing it wrong. What do you think?

I selected you and many other editors pretty much completely at random; I picked one day's AfD archives, and clicked on the talk pages of the first two or three dozen editors' talk pages I came across. I hope that in using this selection method, I will get editors who are well-versed in AfD policies, yet who also represent a good cross-section of AfD philosophies. I will monitor your talk page for your response. Thanks. Unschool (talk) 07:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Cysero
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Dungeons & Dragons: In universe articles
Thank you for creating the category Dungeons & Dragons articles that need to differentiate between fact and fiction and for correcting my edits. Do you think that Category:Non-article D&D pages is now redundant? --Gavin Collins (talk) 17:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Any non-article D&D pages will probably be in Category:WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons, so yeah, we could probably do without the category. I'm a little confused by the name of that category, as most of the pages in it are ... well, articles. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 17:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Also note the templates I created to populate the category, which at the moment are and . That way, if we decide to split FR and GH articles into a subcategory (e.g., World of Greyhawk articles that need to ...) it's just a matter of changing the template. —Disavian (talk/contribs)
 * Please can you retain the Category:Dungeons & Dragons articles that need to differentiate between fact and fiction within the in universe template? This category with help the RPG project with cleanup. --Gavin Collins (talk) 08:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah... no offense, it might just be that it's early in the morning, but that made no grammatical sense at all. Are you asking me to do something/not do something? Asking about how the templates work? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 13:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The articles that I tagged as in universe are also being categorised. Admittedly the category name is not grammatically incorrect, but at least it is a category. The new templates that you have created are not part of a special category that is an aid to cleanup. --Gavin Collins (talk) 15:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for signing up!
Thank you for signing up with the WP:UNI/COTF Active Editors list! - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 23:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I edit WP:UNI articles anyway, so I figured I'd join in. In return, maybe one day you'll help me get Georgia Institute of Technology through WP:FAC :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

BattleTech
I think those clans are part of the tabletop game, like D&D, and your right they are pretty bad, and I seriously doubt any of them will hold up long term. Feel free to have at them :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Jaina Solo AfD / Jacen Solo AfD
New comments that may be of interest to you have been posted in the AfDs. User:Dorftrottel 20:21, January 23, 2008

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Jacen Solo
Partially as a result of your vote to keep the article, the AfD resulted in "no consensus". Since you are convinced that Wikipedia should have an article on Jacen Solo, please stand by that and help get this article to the bare minimum encyclopedic standards. This includes a complete rewrite from a non-in-universe perspective, accompanied by reliable, third-party secondary sources.

If however the article has not been brought up to this bare minimum within the next 4 weeks, I will consider resubmitting it for deletion.

Regards, User:Dorftrottel 02:41, January 30, 2008

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WP:UNI/COTF Round 5
Sorry about the late notice. My 21st birthday was on Wednesday and I was pretty much sick all day Thursday, so I wasn't able to get a chance to do this. Anyways, three new articles.

Note: I didn't place the Portal on the ENT because I felt that the portal was more like a collection of articles rather than an actual article focused on the university. This semi-goes against our original goals of the COTF in which university articles would get attention first before handling the subarticles. (Portal is more like a collection of articles). Anyways, if you believe it should be back on the ENT, I'll make sure it'll be Round 6's ENT, so if you do feel it should, talk on the COTF talk page.

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Georgia Tech FA nom
I agree that it's about time we focused our efforts on getting Georgia Tech to FA status. But before we nominate it, I think the lead could use a bit more work. MaxVeers (talk) 19:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Janice N. Wittschiebe
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Janice N. Wittschiebe
Can you provide a solid example of why this person is notable (and include a significant outside reference?--Pgagnon999 (talk) 05:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you're providing some refs that have to do with her academic career, but how is she notable? Being an academic doesn't automatically translate into notability. has she published any books? If so, that would probably make her notable. Has she made the news? It looks like you do a lot of wikiwork; if you'd like, I'll defer and move her to WP:afd, but I think you still end up with the same problem there.--Pgagnon999 (talk) 06:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC) Thanks!--Pgagnon999 (talk) 06:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I gave this a second look over & decided to nominate it for WP:Afd. Sorry, but notability seems fuzzy; editors will now weigh in on it to determine if it should be kept or not. --Pgagnon999 (talk) 20:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Mrs. Hudson
I went ahead and restored it. --Coredesat 23:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate
Hi, I put the cheer back per your verification. I did move the existing ref up though as it doesn't support it. It would be good to find a good ref for it if possible - the one you sent shows the actual chant, but it's not really clear I think as it doesn't state that is cheered at games. Understood that it is hard to find cites for things like that.

Also, the punctuation in that portion is really awkward. Wasn't sure how to correct it - possibly a rewrite taking out the items in parentheses and incorporating them as part of the actual sentence might look better? One more thing while on the topic, many UGA fans do chant "heck" instead of "hell" in the Georgia fight song, but the latter is certainly more popular. Regards.--Roswell native (talk) 18:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Happy Birthday! --Roswell native (talk) 00:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Janice N. Wittschiebe
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Primary author disclosure
Hi Disavian, I just wanted to remind you that, per Wikietiquette (see WP:Articles for deletion), you should disclose that you are the primary editor of Janice N. Wittschiebe on the afd page. Best, --Pgagnon999 (talk) 00:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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Round 6 of University Collaborations of the Fortnight has begun
Enjoy! - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 05:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
Hello Disavian, I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see New admin school/Rollback and Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck. Acalamari 22:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome. I was under the impression that rollback was going to be granted after an RFA-type process, but I apparently didn't pay enough attention :) Thanks. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 22:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) No, you don't have to go through an RfA-like process to obtain rollback: if you had to go through a week of voting and discussion just to get rollback, you might as well run for RfA instead! The request page is Requests for rollback, but administrators are not limited to just granting it to people who request rollback there. Good luck. Acalamari 22:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * On a related subject, I've been tempted to go up for RfA, but I've been too busy with work and such lately. Plus, it's easy to put it off, as nobody (in specific) really needs the tools, as long as other people have them. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 15:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

G.P.Burdell edit
Hi Disavian,

I'd like to know why you deleted my edit regarding the role of George P. Burdell at WREK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgough (talk • contribs) 04:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You didn't cite a source. I like to keep that article well-referenced; otherwise, just anyone could say "Burdell has done XYZ" and the article would look like crap. If you have a link to back up the fact that Burdell works at WREK, we can try to reference that, and work it into the text a little better. Sound good? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 04:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. Working on that. Thanks.Rgough (talk) 13:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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CCSFQRC AfD
what was wrong with it? I didn't catch that.CholgatalK! 23:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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Copying one of your Userboxes
It has recently come to my attention that I should ask permission before copying a Userbox from a Userpage to use on my own Userpage. In checking my Userboxes, I found one that I must have copied from you at some time called User:Disavian/Userboxes/United States. I apologize, but may I continue to use it? Thanks. Thomprod (talk) 17:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Um... sure. Do whatever with my userboxes. Go crazy! But not too crazy, like the guy that made one for pedophilia and got banned for being a troll. Use them, subst them, express yourself. Etc. Or you could copy your entire userpage layout from somewhere else; I modeled mine on WP:GAN. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Thomprod (talk) 20:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Round 7 of WP:UNI/COTF is finally here!
Hope everyone got a good two week rest in observance of Spring Break. Here are the new articles for the next fourteen days until 27 Mar 2008. I've taken advice to purposefully scramble the articles so they must be multi-nation (so we don't get complaints that it's too US-centric). This time we've got an article in UK, one in US, and one in HKG. Hope this will suffice. As always, please let me know if there are any questions.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  23:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

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Destin, Florida redirect
Thanks for adding that redirect for the Destin article. I forgot about that! &bull; WarpFlyght (talk &bull; contribs) 23:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)