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Did you know you can just type  instead of manually entering your name and the date? It's much quicker and links to your user and talk pages will be automatically added. --Schuhpuppe (talk) 21:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, I know now. I am sorry; I am new to Wikipedia and its mark-up language. For some reason though there is no hyperlink to my userpage or is that simply because Wikipedia blocks the hyperlink so that only I do not see it? --DiscipleOfKnowledge 23:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

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nl:Jimmy Manyi
Hi D.O.K,

I have tried to do some justice to that story, but as I live in the US all I have is internet sources. Could you have a look (supposing you can decipher my strange tongue)? Shouldn't there be a page on this topic on the en.wiki too?

Jcwf (talk) 04:25, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

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I do, but the damn signature doesn't hyperlink to my userpage or talk page, stupid bot!!! ARGHHHH!!!! --DiscipleOfKnowledge 14:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * You can customize your signature at Special:Preferences under signature. Placing something like DiscipleOfKnowledge in there will force a hyperlink. -- NJR_ZA (talk) 15:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you NJR_ZA, you have saved me a great deal of time. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 06:19, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Local access
I see your userpage indicates that are a Rhodian. I wonder if you might be willing to help out with a query that has come up at WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request? It seems to be for a rather rare work that originated at what now is the SAIAB, though I have my doubts about some of the cataloguing details. Would you be willing to do a bit of digging to see if it still exists there? It would help clear up the last remaining request from 2009. Cheers, LeadSongDog come howl!  21:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I did a search and think I might have found what your are looking for. Does this look right? http://opac.seals.ac.za/search~S2?/XOccasional+Papers+of+the+Department+of+Ichthyology&searchscope=2&SORT=DZ/XOccasional+Papers+of+the+Department+of+Ichthyology&searchscope=2&SORT=DZ&extended=0&SUBKEY=Occasional%20Papers%20of%20the%20Department%20of%20Ichthyology/1%2C32000%2C32000%2CB/frameset&FF=XOccasional+Papers+of+the+Department+of+Ichthyology&searchscope=2&SORT=DZ&5%2C5%2C
 * If this is not what you are looking for I will make a personal enquiry to the Department of Ichthyology to get a hard copy of this periodical. Hope that helps. Kind Regards, --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk)  09:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks right to me, but I'm not the originator. I've sent him a tickler email. Thank you for checking. LeadSongDog come howl!  04:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Election results
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Speedy deletion nomination of Afawfw3fweg
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 * I created that article with the intention of using it as a sandbox for a table I am working on so please delete it by all means, but keep the table! Much love, --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 04:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. I have the table. Go ahead and delete it! Sorry about the inconvenience. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 04:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Incredible Connection


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Jobs created during South African presidential terms
Noticed that you are working on an article on "Jobs created during South African presidential terms." Just wanted to say that as an economist that whilst it relatively easy to tabulate the actual numbers created it is a very tricky thing working out how many of those jobs government created. However I am sure you know that already. Anyway, on that note I thought you might be interested in a show that National Public Broadcast Radio in the US did on that subject very recently. It well done and I think a must listen to for any one interested in the subject. You can listen to the show here: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=435&podcast=1 --Discott (talk) 21:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Very interesting! I think you are quite right, quantifying the jobs that the government has created is difficult because perhaps we can only calculate this in terms of how they facilitate job creation, so maybe creating a tax-free zone stimulates start-up growth and in turn job creation, for example. Ahh, but I am just a pseudo-economist, what do I know? This is probably not the place but I must say that I have grave concerns for our political economy and our long-term prosperity as an emerging market. I was reading this article and I must say that I was pretty disconcerted. Personally, I blame the goverment's uncompetitive economic policies. What do you think? --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk)  16:16, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. The writer of the article you reconmened is right about SA being at an economic crossroads.  I must admit that I am not that optimistic about us finding the right rout, largly because of politcal reasons. Although I am reluctant to blaim the ANC for our relative lack of economic performance (as some thing like the economy is some thing so much bigger than any political group or the government in a country but is rather a group effort by everyone) it is hard not to land at lease some of the blame at the door step of a political organisation that has been in a position of such hegimonic polical control for so long as the ANC in South Africa.  But on the other hand we do have a curious mix of political interests (across SA's political spectrum) that the ANC is only a part of that has also created this and in many ways the ANC has done a relatively good job trying to get as many of them to get along as possible.  Is there more the ANC could do... yes.  Is there more that everyone else could do... yes.  Is it the case that relative to SA's wealth and the eduction of unskilled workers that they are paid at a rate that hurts the copetivivness of SA's economy... yes.  Is it the case that we are a highly and unsustanably unequal society... yes.  Is it nessersery for everyone to work together and compramise to make it happen... yes.  As they say in public policy: policy must be good politics before it can become good policy.  The problem we have is that we have yet to find an effective economic policy that would also be good politics... but then again that is the story of many countries.  Either way, this is a very complicated issue with no easy answers.  However there is much we can learn from countries like Barbados, Brazil, Scandinavian countries and yes even China. --Discott (talk) 14:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Incredible Connection for deletion
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love your spirit
You've already done a bunch. No reason not to go for FA. I would go in stages. Get the thing to GA first. TCO (talk) 21:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes! It may take a while but eventually it will get there. I think A class would be the first stage but perhaps we could even skip this stage and get a peer review for it when we are happy with it. You may want to look at some of the existing featured articles in biology to get some idea of what a FA article should look like. There are a lot of fungi that are featured, or maybe I am looking at the wrong section. Nevertheless, they provide good examples. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 22:04, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I have taken a bio article featured, painted turtle. There are definitely people who know more...but I have a good feel for what is involved. The issues are much more FA versus non-FA, than animal versus plant.

Whatever you want to do to get traction makes sense. But I seriously advise you that "content is king". WE (you) need to get the references and read them and put more "meat on the bone". After that, I undertand well how to work on format, prose, even organization. But we need the material first. Article needs more detail and length.TCO (talk) 22:09, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Can do. The next few days I are going to get real busy. But after that I will have several weeks to devote my attention to this article. I have many books at home and will do a thorough perusal and will include what I find. Cheers for now! --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 22:14, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Dichapetalum cymosum
I see you have decided to help get Dichapetalum cymosum to GA or FA. The Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/) is a good source of online books on just about any subject. Easily searched by google with something like "Gifblaar site:archive.org" or "Dichapetalum cymosum site:archive.org"

When you follow the link from google, click on See other formats and select Read online or the PDF

Here are some quick links to specific pages in books that mentions gifblaar or Dichapetalum cymosum:

Try the searches, you will find many more. --NJR_ZA (talk) 22:19, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I see this thing gathering steam. Have a good feeling!  TCO (talk) 22:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

A google scholar search, looking for review articles, is alos a good call. Can use the wiki help desk to get you free copies. I have tried it and they are very helpful and fast! TCO (talk) 22:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, gentlemen. I am familiar enough with both and think I will be able to find something useful. Much luv, --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 11:21, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * OK. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk)  13:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 13:37, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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 * No! Go away. Somebody else can update the licensing details. It was already enough effort uploading that .png with a 70Kb connection. Kthnx, bot. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 20:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's actually worse than that. The license terms of it are not acceptable (not just "not a tag that the bot could parse"). They do not allow certain uses of the image that wikipedia policy requires be permitted, so the file got deleted per WP:CSD. DMacks (talk) 05:25, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. That was a [CC licensed image http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/]. How is this policy prohibiting its inclusion? --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 06:34, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It is "non-commercial only" and "no derivative works". Each of those makes the image fail Image use policy (especially the Copyright and licensing section). There is also an explicit statement about these two particular requirements in the image-uploading screen. DMacks (talk) 06:42, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that is unfortunate. I guess Jimbo and his crew know better. Thanks for explaining this to me. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 06:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. It was quite contentious when the policy was written, and indeed definitely a more restrictive definition of "free to use" than many are used to dealing with on other websites. DMacks (talk) 06:49, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

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Small Cape Town Wiki meet up
Thought you might be interested to know that a small group of the South African Wikipedians will be meeting at the Foresters Arms, Newlands Avenue, Newlands, Cape Town on the 15 December 2011 from 2pm - 5pm. Please feel free to join us.--Discott (talk) 22:54, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool. Will keep that in mind: I love that place! --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 06:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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 * Don't you have anything better to do besides being a tool? Are you really going to do your very best to undo what I spent quite a lot of time doing based on some effing technicality? Jeezuz, man. Fine, delete the damn thing, delete the whole fucking encyclopedia for all I care. You deletionist pricks are the most pedantic, obstructive, truculent wankers on Wiki, and I really could not be bothered to try and resolve any more of these time wasting disputes. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 15:19, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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Edits to the ANC article
What the hell happened here and here? I mean, at least the vandalism which replaced parts of the article with black bars was clever - but this? I'm not going to leave you the usual template warning about vandalism because you're a longstanding editor who knows the rules. - htonl (talk) 11:53, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My friend, I am truly sorry for this. I should not have allowed my disillusionment and personal differences to compromise the encyclopedia. Although those edits gave my heart great satisfaction, it undermines the work that you are doing. So, sorry. I am going to take a break from editing and will return when I am in a better state of mind. I have never been laid and don't have a girlfriend so I don't have anything better to do. I am a sad, sad, little man and should probably get therapy. I shall return soon.

--Love, User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 12:03, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, I understand - sometimes I've been pretty tempted. Take care of yourself, and good luck! - htonl (talk) 13:22, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

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