User talk:Discospinster/Archive8

There are loads of examples of bands who don't meet every requirement that have full articles on Wikipedia. Does the band's internet popularity have to do with it's following on the streets? This is an article I feel should stay on. Is there anything that can be done to keep it on?

Takenforaride77 (talk) 02:39, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Question:
I thought Wikipedia was about collective knowledge? Why would an administrator know what’s more important then than the general public - especially in terms of music or art? Do you already have to be an authority to be read about? Who decides?

Hmmm, just read through some of your responses. Realise why you need to stop the people just making wrong stuff up or adding wrong stuff for fun - but there are really real little known bands, artists, and creative people who should be able to have a page because it's true, interesting and relevant. (rebeccaste • 04:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Response:
I would say that they singlehandedly rebirthed the punk scene in the Lehigh Valley, but really things like that don't get listed on what is considered to be a verifiable source, besides like kids commenting about it or whatever on message boards (obviously not what you would consider verifiable). I guess they're too underground for even the internet haha. But they are valid, and there was never an emphasis on recording it seemed, so it's gonna take some time to prove that, and according to those rules, it seems they will never be fit for Wikipedia, because their music provides intentions of going against big things, such as major labels or being nominated for music awards etc, which is what that list is comprised of. And there's nothing to verify representation for a scene...Any thoughts?

Takenforaride77 (talk) 02:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Response:
Haha, it's different tho. It's something the people can change, which IS what they seem to stand for. It doesn't matter. I thought that if people wanted to learn about them, they could do so, but I guess not. We'll see what happens. Thanks for your time and wit, haha.

Takenforaride77 (talk) 03:06, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Fettes College
Hello, I am a current pupil at the school i believe i have the right to edit the page more than you!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.31.126 (talk) 01:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC) No never mind, I'm way too stupid and retarded to know this or anything else. You, of course, have earned the privelege far more than I have. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.199.167.114 (talk) 04:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
I have granted you administrative rollback privileges, as I trust you to make good use of them in your patrolling. Yup, admins can grant rollback now. Use the tool wisely. :) Wizardman  23:26, 9 January 2008

That 90's Show
Please do not remove tags as you did to this episode, without adding a reliable source. It maybe obvious to you, but not to others, such as myself. I have no idea what that painting is.  C t j f 8 3 talk 03:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Please, with your 50,000+ edits you should know that a picture on another article is hardly a reliable reference.  C t j f 8 3 talk 03:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly, it needs a source that explicably states the connection. We have decided that it is probably true so we left it, but it still needs a reliable source.--The Dominator (talk) 04:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hollywood North
Greetings & salutations. There is an article here on wikipedia Hollywood North in which there seems to be a disagreement with me and another person who appears to me has taken ownership of that article. I added a link there in the "See also" section of List of films shot in Hamilton, Ontario and the person in question kept removing. At first no reason was given for the removal of the link I added to it by the party in question. Please have a look at the discussion we had there regarding the issue and give me your opinion it please. The link to that discussion page is over here: Talk:Hollywood North Thanks. Greatly appreciated. Have a good day. Nhl4hamilton (talk) 11:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the two reverts on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Adminship?
You seem to be a great user ready for the mop, so would you like me to nominate you to be an administrator? NHRHS 2010 NHRHS2010 01:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Disco Spinster
discospinster,

i have a few things to clarify and discuss with you. firstly an apology. in my first adress, i did not mean to infer that as a past memebr of the college community, i have any more right to decide what goes on this page. However, as a general editior, i have just as much right as you to edit this page. you mentioned consensus. my self and others have made simmilar additions to the page regarding the list. yet, you and others are continualy threatening with action

you spoke of guidelines by consensus. not to rehash old quarrlels, however on WP:SCH#WNTI the last line of the intro sates Note that these are only recommendations, and editors are not obliged to follow them. they are recomoendations. not laws. hence lists of students CAN BE INCLUDED.

i do not intend on engaging in an edit war. if it seems so that i am, than both yourself and loopla should also be banned, because loopla (and with ure supoort recently) initiated the edits. i have maintained this site for nearly 6 months now. it has become what it is on the most due to my input. including the list of cptns. it was loopla who choose to undo my reviosin, to which i redid it. if i am guilty, then so are the both of you. and before you start throwing any more right back at me, i am not suggesting that i own the page, merely that i was here first, and the both of you began this war

 Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. that was a line you wrote on my talk page. i feel that you (and loopla) dont want this discussed. you both want your way, and i am being told to deal with it. conversations regarding this originated as discussion, however, recenty, i have been threatened with blocking. my views are not being heard. again, i have seen all the medals and praise on your page, but as you said, noone has any more right on this site than any other.

i wish to work towards a resolution, at the same time, i am not intending on backing down. i have continusiously justifies the inclusion of the lists anf have refuted any fight that has been put foward. not one ''wiki law has been put foward to me that overtly oposes my additions.

Zebra91 (talk) 04:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Edit warring
Hi Discospinster, I noticed that you reverted one of the edits by Zebra91 on the Patrician Brothers' College, Fairfield. Unfortunately this user has continued to revert the removal of inappropriate info by several users from this article, and as I can see from the message above he does not plan on listening to the opinions of others. Its all a bit out of hand now and im not really sure what to do about it without breaking the WP:3RR (which I don't plan on doing). What should be done to resolve this? I appreciate your time! Cheers. Loopla (talk) 05:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I can't believe such a rediculous issue has gone on this long. I've given up trying to discuss it because I get accused of being a 'bully' and so it goes nowhere, and im reluctant to revert because I don't want to engage in a 'war'. Hopefully now that there have been a couple more opinions it will stop. Thanks for keeping an eye on it! Cheers. Loopla (talk) 00:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion
Hey, ive made a suggestion on the talk page of Partician Brothers as to a way forward, to help satisfy both sides. Please have a look and just write what you think. Twenty Years 08:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for the revert on my user page. It is greatly appreciated. --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  04:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Needing third opinion
Can you help us (with your "third opinion") into a definition with coordination problem base (origined from here)? --Krauss (talk) 13:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

request
I am requesting to get my user page deleted. I am no longer interested in using wikipedia. I need your assistance with this matter. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat 14:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK Thanks Lisa. Nhl4hamilton | Chit-Chat  04:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

EVHS
Hi,

I saw you've been editing the EVHS article. I wanted to bring a few things to your attention. The user evhs00 has basically been copying the Los Alamos High School article. (see for yourself). Problem is that he's copied a great deal of stuff that does not apply to EVHS. For instance he makes a serious of false, baseless and dubious claims:


 * EVHS was one of Newsweek's 2007 "1,000 Best High Schools in America" (#598). This was baselessly copied from the LAHS article and is just false when applied to EVHS:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/39380/?sort=Rank&count=1351&Search=&start=500&limit=100&year=2007&


 * EVHS is "mostly middle class". A dubious claim considering espanola is one of the poorer cities in one of the poorest states and has 21% of its population living beneath the poverty level:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Espanola-New-Mexico.html


 * Many other claims are suspect, uncited, and bear a clear similarity to claims on the LAHS article.

Additionally,


 * The image of the sundevil mascot was taken from the Arizona State University article and is not fair use.


 * The image of the basketball team was taken from the EVHS Athletics website and is not fair use.

Basically there's no citations anywhere and the author's methodology is clearly one of blatant copying. I really want to avoid an edit-war between rival high school articles so I'm not going to touch the EVHS article. I'm actually really glad that somebody is working on the EVHS page. But the author needs to learn how to work within the rules.

--Ryan Utt (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Warning vandals
Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: You may already know about them, but you might find Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned.  Enigma  msg! 03:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, just reminding you. Same thing happened at Christmas. I warned the IP for you. :)  Enigma  msg! 05:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

America's Next Top Model
Just so you know, I have protected the page for two weeks. Thanks for the report and happy editing! Malinaccier (talk) 01:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Why can't I edit my own User page?
So you're Ukrainian and Italian too eh?

Pryvit/Ciao!

Anyway, it's my page, do you have to revert it?

I get it, I've been warned, yeeeaaah.

70.74.172.232 (talk) 01:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Syesha Mercado's page
Under wikipedia's notability for musicians page syesha meets requirement 9 to have a page.....

So what was your reasoning to delete the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SRQtoBOS (talk • contribs) 03:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

National Comprehensive Cancer Network
Just wanted to say thanks for your help in keeping that organization's linkspam to a minimum. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

errrr... (Thingg's user page)
You might not have realized it, but you reverted a change that Thingg made to his userpage here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Thingg&curid=14506643&diff=193579468&oldid=193577869

not that I blame you I was about to revert it too until I noticed it was a userpage, hehe. xenocidic (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * oops, my bad ! must've been asleep at the wheel when I looked at this one. xenocidic (talk) 13:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. I might not have noticed it for a while (don't read it to much) so yeah, thanks. Happy editing! Thingg &#8853; &#8855; 00:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Staine et al
I'm in the process of bundling about six articles together on this one. Bear with me. --Sturm 20:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for being a bit terse in the above message. I was finding the  demands of correct edit summaries etc a bit wearing, so I wasn't concentrating on how abrupt the comment could look. --Sturm 20:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

John Roberts's education
Please provide a citation showing that John Roberts attended Sacred Heart. I'm reasonably certain that after high school he went straight to Harvard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.9.242 (talk) 09:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Innate behaviour
I see you have a history of working on the article Innate behaviour. I am looking at it from the project Unreferenced articles where it is one of the longest unreferenced tagged articles that does not meet at least the barest minimum of verifiability. It has been tagged and completely without references since June 2006. It would be extremely helpful if you had some references you could add to the article to help support its verifiability and notability. Thanks for any help you can give.  Birgitte SB  21:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I wish you hadn't removed the tags from the EVHS article because you're helping set a precedent that citations aren't needed. I think the tags should remain because it lets people know where citations are desired before they remove the sources masthead. --Greg Comlish (talk) 15:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
This I discovered today. Would you still like to be an admin? NHRHS 2010 NHRHS2010 20:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nominated you. Please answer the questions here. NHRHS  2010 NHRHS2010 01:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

User:GajinSmash
I see you've warned User:GajinSmash multiple times about disruptive edits. He performed another two on Glenview Park Secondary School since the "final warning" you issued. I see you are not an admin (yet), but I thought action should probably be taken now. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 20:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes! First! Congrats! - Milk's   Favorite   Cookie  20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Almost first :) Congratulations. Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 20:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Third! Ha. Congratulations.  Enigma  msg! 20:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Darn I get the 4th congrats :P, anyways Congratulations on becoming a Sysop I wish you the best of luck as an admin :). --Mifter (talk) 22:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Now don't let me down.  :)  ArcAngel (talk) 23:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * From me too! Good job! Spencer  T♦C 23:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, all the best....Modernist (talk) 23:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful RfA! Make sure to check out the new admin school. Good luck and feel free to ask me if you have any questions! GlassCobra 23:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well done! Wikipedia and its editors can only benefit from your experience and judgment.  κaτaʟ aveno TC 00:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, and congrats! Mop up well!! ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 00:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, and once again, thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page last year. NHRHS  2010 NHRHS2010 00:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Tiptoety  talk 00:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

About your RfA
Congratulations on passing your RfA! I think you'll do great as an admin. I'd give you a link to the new admins' school and a T-shirt as gifts, but it seems you have both already. :) Good luck! Acalamari 01:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes indeed, congratulations. Well done. --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 02:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! I hope you will do a great job as an admin. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems like I was the only on opposed, but you showed class with your reply on my talk page. Therefore congrats are in order and I am now sure you will do a fine job. Thright (talk) 05:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Lighten the mood
Since I was the only one opposed to your rfa, there is a need for me to tell a joke! Why is kingston so windy?
 * A because Queens blows! JK Take careThright (talk) 06:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Well Done You
Disco, it was my pleasure. I've seen you around and already had clocked you as sound, sane and smart. What I further saw from browsing through the stuff for candidature nailed it. RfA is something I have only recently been browsing - its a great way to pick up on tools and procedures I reckon - and I was delighted to have a rare unconditionally positive view on a candidate (I have decided views on certain issues with rfa, such as age and certain behavioural conditions but was still shocked to see the way camps can form over seemingly everything!) Anyway, that's just by way of trying to say congrats and all - and if I ever need quickie help and/or an opinion, I'd know where I'd like to come and get sorted. So, have a good one...Plutonium27 (talk) 10:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

re:RFA
You're very welcome. Fusion Mix  12:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

RFA
That's very good to hear, well done and good luck at work with the tools :). AndreNatas (talk) 13:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome
Wow you did very well! Trust me, I know what Im talking about! Thanks for taking the time to thank an old "commentor"! Have fun with the tools! --Camaeron (talk) 17:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Ditto! Slade (TheJoker) 01:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion tag updated
I have updated the deletion tag in all the articles that you had suggested should be AfD Thanks. Sudharsansn (talk · contribs) 06:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Blocked user
Hi there. I noticed that you have temporarily blocked User talk:98.224.211.86 from editing on wikipedia. This ip address belongs to User talk:Turemetalfan, an individual who has been temporarily blocked before. Both talk page currently feature the same entry ("PEOPLE ON THIS SITE SUCK") but real evidence that it is the one and the same individual can be found on my talk page where a conversation with myself was initiated by one and continued by the other ("I did not say ..."). I do not know whether there's any significance or relevance to this but I thought I should just let you know since you left a block notice on one talk page but not the other. --Bardin (talk) 08:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I blocked the IP because there was vandalism after the final warning, but I didn't see any final warning on User talk:Turemetalfan's talk page. I'm sure they're probably the same person as you say.  I'll keep an eye on the other account's contributions just to be sure, but s/he has claimed that s/he doesn't want anything to do with Wikipedia, so maybe we won't have to worry about it. ...  disco spinster   talk  18:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The person has made the same claim before without ever following through. The person has just made three reverts to the List of gothic metal bands. I'm not about to make a third revert myself because I do not want to get blocked by any administrator. This is not the first time that the person has made three reverts to the same list. A temporary block was made on the user on 7 February 2008 as evident on the user talk page for reverting the same list three times. Incidentally, there's more evidence that the IP address and user name belongs to the same person as seen from the contributions made on the IP address, including such edits as this one on the talk page for the user name. I'm relatively new to wikipedia and while I'm familiar with the general rules and policies of this site, I'm not certain about the administrative procedure regarding disruptive individuals like this. --Bardin (talk) 02:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've replaced the entries and made a statement to the effect that the entries are sourced... I will keep an eye on it. ...  disco spinster   talk  02:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Bardin (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio's
You can see the whole list here. Thanks, - Milk's   Favorite   Cookie  19:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the editor has a long history of copyvio's and just about all his article have word for word text from other websites. Check out his talk page. - Milk's   Favorite   Cookie  19:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of article Daniel Boey
Hello,

I noticed you moved the article I created due to notability on March 13. However I have amended these issues back in Nov 2007. He told me my changes I made were fine and that the article had sufficient enough references to be deemed credible. He authorized me to move it back to the article's name place.

Could you please move the article back as I have been in accordance with the other admin's guidelines?

Thanks.

Succisa75 (talk) 03:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Response about deletion of Daniel Boey
Hi,

The history of the conversation can be seen here. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Succisa75/Daniel_Boey&action=history

Also if you need to you can look at my contributions under my username and see my responses as well.

Thanks. Succisa75 (talk) 04:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Additional resources for Daniel Boey
Hi, Can you review the articles additional resources and let me know your opinion?

Thanks

Succisa75 (talk) 05:19, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Update: I fixed the last link that was having an error. Would it be okay at this time to remove the disclaimer at the top of the page?

Thanks for all your help.

Succisa75 (talk) 15:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Barret
Hello Discospinster,

Thanks for deleting the page. If you have two minutes, I'd give you some extra work. :) Could you please restore the two most recent edits by Markussep and BOTarate and move the page to Barret, Charente (so their edits will not be lost), then restore the other edits of Barret (except my edit) to keep the original history? In the end, the history will be split into the pages Barret and Barret, Charente. Thanks in advance, Korg (talk) 15:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That seems OK. If Barret has only one deleted edit (my tagging), then that's perfect! I just wanted to keep the original history, as a disambiguation page existed previously. Thank you very much! Korg (talk) 16:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention the deleted redirect created after the page move. :) Finally, I've created the disambiguation page. Thanks again, Korg (talk) 18:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Yvonne K. Fulbright
Thanks, I think we're all sorted now. I closed Articles for deletion/Editing Yvonne K. Fulbright - Preview and the creator made a nomination with a more sane name at Articles for deletion/Yvonne K. Fulbright. cab (talk) 02:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Tonymitra
Hi. I just wanted to commend you for sending this fellow to the drawing board. It's refreshing to get somebody who probably actually has a notable article and really needs help figuring out how to present it. :) Those occasions that we get to do what we're there for instead of the more usual deflecting inappropriate articles are rare. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Steven Wolfe
Hi, this article you deleted yesterday (Steven Wolfe) was re-created by the same vandal a few hours later - Wikigi | talk to me | 14:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Please help me with the Daniel Boey Article
Hi,

Thank you for all your help on the article about Daniel Boey. However it seems other admins do not read up on the history of the article and keep deleting it for other reasons that clearly make no sense. Can you help me protect this article from these admins that clearly do not respect your decision?

Thanks Succisa75 (talk) 16:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Update: I have taken your advice and created a deletion review log about the article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_March_18 Succisa75 (talk) 04:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: color in infobox
You seem like your the owner of wikipedia, dude calm down its just wikipedia obviously they dont pay you to maintain all the stuff you do just chill out..Its damn color what are you going to do block me for that hahah?! Martinez07 (talk) 08:52, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok Crybaby its not against the wikipedia guidlines or anything actually its on alot of school pages anything else you wanna complain about today? Martinez07 (talk) 10:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Missing Persons List
I am wanting to add to the missing persons list on Wikipedia, however it keeps getting deleted. Please advise on what I am doing wrong. I'm including references and websites listing the disappearance and I try to keep it in line with the other missing persons listings. Please advise. Kbcatc (talk) 19:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC) kbcatc

Marin Academy
I'm honestly curious, can you show me where inherent notability of high school's is supported by Wikipedia policy? I believe I've seen discussion that mention of schools *somewhere* is an accepted practice, but I haven't run across anything giving inherent notability to them. Thanks. Newtman (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 06:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Michael Normand
I was in the middle of cleaning up that article and removing the attack issue. He appears to likely meet notability. If you could undelete that I'd appreciate it. JoshuaZ (talk) 20:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. JoshuaZ (talk) 20:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I Gave A Reason Not To Delete An Article
I Gave A Reason Not To Delete An Article That I Had Wrote But Noone Read It, and It Was Deleted, Why Did That Happen? I am Highly Upset

My article
I didn't do anything wrong when I added Noah Lindsay Cyrus to Wikipedia? How is Noah Lindsay Cyrus an inappropiate page? Kristy22 (talk) 01:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Noah Lindsay Cyrus
Just because there was no indication in the Noah Lindsay Cyrus article telling why she was notable does not mean that Noah Lindsay Cyrus is an inappropiate page for Wikipedia! And I don't deserve to be blocked just for trying to contribute to Wikipedia either! Kristy22 (talk) 01:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't care
I don't care about what you said in the message you sent me! I mean, everyday I contribute to wikipedia and do I get a reward for my contributions? No,I don't! Instead I get messages from people like you that if I create or edit pages on Wikipedia, I will be blocked from editing! What is up with that? I mean, come on! Kristy22 (talk) 01:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Contributing
I do contribute positively to Wikipedia! The articles I made in the past that were deleted were my positive contribtions to Wikipedia. You just don't see it that way! I make positive articles on wikipedia to contribute to the project everyday! The uncivil comments I left on user talk pages deserve to be there. Kristy22 (talk) 01:43, 22 March 2008 (UTC)