User talk:Ditch Fisher/Archive 1

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I don't use my watch-list very much, so you may need to ping me if I don't respond to something. But, for the most part, I prefer to keep the discussion on the page where it started, or at least link it back to the relevant article talk page. But I'm pretty easy going, so whatever you prefer is fine. If we start talking, I'll keep up. Quinn ☂THUNDER 14:25, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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Notability questions
Greetings, David -- fascinating to read people talking about you in cyberspace. On the notability question, may I refer you to these cites that have not yet turned up on the Wiki page: http://nationaljournal.com/magazine/political-insiders-poll-20110120 (Questions that get asked of about 100 of us on each side of the aisle every week or so by National Journal Magazine) and http://www.campaignsandelections.com/publications/campaign-election/2009/july-2009/shop-talk-beyond-dumpster-diving (a 2009 roundtable in which I participated for Politics magazine) PS I still do work in New York occasionally, but not much since Giuliani's presidential campaign of 2007-08. See you around the campus GaryWMaloney (talk) 20:17, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

You should include content from them on the WP article. I could really care less if your article stays or goes. You should perhaps ponder whether you want to have a WP article about you...you know the good comes with the bad, right? Seriously, I don't know you or your work from a raindrop in a bucket. Just saw it mentioned somewhere (the COIN board, I think). So, if you can establish notability and make a case for your article to exist, by all means, do so...on the article talk page or the AFD notice. Not on my talk page. Thanks! -- Quinn CLOUDY 04:25, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That was a little to abrupt, let me clarify:

Ok, ok, ok....you know what? I'm sorry. Gary, listen: You caught me when I was just  scrolling through my notifications, and I assumed the worst. Re-reading your post, you seem like a nice guy. So, again, I'm sorry.

First off, I honestly have no idea who you are. I don't know anything about you, nor do I care, other that what was posted on the Wikipedia article and a brief Google search about you. Perhaps you have an intern or something who says you should have a Wikipedia article to help your "search engine results." That's understandable...but I want you to realize that the good always comes with the bad. Around here we call it the boomerang or the  Streisand Effect. Basically, if the news reports about you are focused on negative things, well, you're probably better off not having a Wikipedia article in the first place. You have absolutely no control over it, I don't care what anybody says to the contrary. A lot of people think they can manipulate Wikipedai for promo purposes...but there are too many of us to make that work in the long run. So, I am glad you think your notable, as far as Wikiepedia goes, but I wonder if you should take a step back and ponder how- if at all- that is important to you. In effect, by supporting a WP article about you, you are giving everyone, including those who dislike you, an open forum to air out an criticisms. And in your job, it seems to me that acting in a...well, questionable manner...is all part of the job. Politics, right? b I understand that. But Wikipedia will call it how the newspapers see it. So take care. And think about it. I wish you the best, and invite you to ask me for help anytime. Thanks! -- Quinn CLOUDY 05:04, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * And just a piece of advice: I said you have "no control" over the article; BUT if you were (as the person in question) to request it DELETED, then it would probably be so, due to the Biographies of Living People policies we have in place. No guarantees though. -- Quinn CLOUDY  05:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Mighty Quinn -- Thanks for the advice, most educational. Promise not to bother you again. GaryWMaloney (talk) 13:05, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Diana Ross
Hi Quin, as talked about on on this page, wikipedia user Bokiluis has made three more POV, peacock and unsourced edits. I notified Wiki:AIAV again (second time today). Started digging around his 'contributions', and I can't understand why Ross doesn't sell that much albums anymore, for this user seems her biggest fan ever. ;) Also, though tiring to clean up, his edits have such a certain fantasy and 'spin', that he would be a great spindoctor for many politicians. :P Anyhow, just wanted to keep you, sort of, posted. Greetings, Robster1983 (talk) 21:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
 * I have left a respons on your respons, which you can find here. :) Greetings, Robster1983 (talk) 23:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Smiley.svg|left|62px]] Hello Ditch Fisher, Ditch Fisher has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
 * Hi Quin, just wanted to let you know that our Diana Ross überfan has stroke again. I have reverted everything. Also saw your input on Bokiluis' talkpage and on the Ross (1978 album) page, which is greatly appreciated from my side! Thanks a million for not only helping out, but also for doing so in an überconstructive way! I gladly share a smile with you, which you can find above this message. :) Robster1983 (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You're more than welcome! And no worries about the pages, I'll check in on them every now and then. So where ya off to? And is it for leisure, business, illegal activities? ;) Well, whether you are going to the other side of the world or just the neighbouring town, whether it is for catching a tint or for drug smuggling; have a nice and save travel! Speak to you later. Ρόμπ   ☞Life's short, talk fast ☜  19:09, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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 * Why yes, thank you, Mr. Bot, for your robotic response. Quinn ☂THUNDER 01:32, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

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Note
Trying to encourage ILT to create new socks is roughly equivalent to trying to encourage a rattlesnake to bite. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. I don't know why, but I kind of feel bad for her. She's obviously a newb and doesn't understand what she did wrong. Oh well...what can you do? Quinn CLOUDY  20:38, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Currently I'm trying to pin down the alleged connection between Jane His Wife and Its Lassie Time. They've made that statement at the SPI, but I'm not seeing the evidence yet. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I responded to your first post not knowing exactly what ILT stood for (I gleaned that it was a user, but wasn't sure to whom you were referring). Now that I do, and having looked at that particular user's history...well, just WOW.  I'll be interested to see if a connection is made between the two.  Thanks for the update. Quinn CLOUDY  23:04, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be so cryptic. :) The experts seem to be expressing some doubt as to the connection - and that would be fine if so. ItsLassieTime was a royal pain. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've been following with interest. Looks inconclusive at this time.  If it DOES turn out to be ILT, perhaps we can get her together with that Bambi fellow I've heard so much about.  I'd be interested to see the Wiki that results. (BTW, how are your Twins doing...still in the basement? I'm a Braves man myself... well, actually a Dale Murphy fan, but old habits are hard to kick :) Quinn CLOUDY  00:16, 22 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The Twins are playing very consistently so far: 1 win per series. At that rate, they'll be out of the race by Father's Day. If not Mother's Day. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:39, 22 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep hope alive :) Quinn CLOUDY 00:55, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Red Bluff, Mississippi (geologic formation)


The article Red Bluff, Mississippi (geologic formation) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Screwed up the move and disambig...but got that fixed. The page can be correctly seen as Red Bluff (Mississippi landmark).  This page and the talk needs to be deleted.  Sorry Quinn &#10025; STARRY NIGHT  01:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Quinn &#10025; STARRY NIGHT 01:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

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 * I've deleted the page, as requested. For future reference, you didn't find "user request for his or her own" page as a prod reason because it's actually a speedy deletion reason instead. (And it's better that way: "prod" requires a 7-day waiting period, while db's can be handled right away.) Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:37, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, got it. Thanks, man! Learning every day here! Quinn <sup style="color:black;">&#10025; STARRY NIGHT  01:47, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have tagged Red Bluff, Mississippi (geologic formation) for speedy deletion per WP:CSD, which I assume you don't mind. If that's not what you intended, let me know. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 05:01, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Help Desk
Just so you know new editors add things to sections all the time that don't belong. You can split them by adding a new section header. If you read through you can usually come up with some kind of appropriate section header. GB fan (talk) 22:25, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! I saw how it was done, so I'll know in the future.  Just always reluctant to mess w/someone else's posting.  Anyway, thanks for the message! Quinn <sup style="color:black;">&#10025; STARRY NIGHT  22:39, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

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Re:Michaelcmadden
That user got blocked in the meantime and thus I'm not sure he'll return to read comments on his talk. To see who created the article, click "history" at the top and then "earliest" at the bottom (sorry for trivial comment, you likely know this). You can't see the history of deleted pages, but you can ask any admin (e.g. the one who deleted the page - his/her username you can see by clicking on the red link for that page) to tell about the deleted article and even temporarily restore it if needed. Anonymous editors (IPs) can't create mainframe articles. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 01:29, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Not trivial at all. I did not know that, and am glad to now.  Thanks.  I thought you were the editor/admin who deleted the article, which is why I asked on your page.  Anyway, nothing to be done now.  I'm moving on.  Thanks for your response! :) Quinn <sup style="color:red;">☂THUNDER  01:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I deleted two versions, another admin deleted the 3rd, and yet another blocked the editor .. Anyway, don't hesitate to ask such "simple" things - they often take many minutes to figure out 1st time, and seconds to explain. Materialscientist (talk) 02:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Cruising permits
Hi Quinn! I added a response to your WP:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2011 September 1 question shortly before it archived, and wanted to note it here in case you missed it. Cheers. -- 110.49.249.64 (talk) 22:04, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Diana Ross, part II
Hi David,

I could really use your help right about now. The infamous Bokiluis is at it again. I'm getting rather tired to look after his rubbish (which I am doing for months now). Is there a way he can be blocked? Or is there some other thing that I/we could try? Love your input on this! 「Robster1983」 <sup style="color:Purple;"> ☞ Life's short, talk fast ☜ 16:18, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm very much out of pocket right now...just found a few minutes to access the web this morning...but if I can break away from real life I will be happy to take a look at what's going on. Sorry not to be more prompt with my response. Quinn <sup style="color:darkblue;">&#9617; RAIN  15:27, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't be silly, no apologies needed! :) And thanks a million for possibly helping in the near future, it is very much appreciated! And, err... succes with your real life things, I guess? (OK, this is one of the weirdest sentences ever, but it is well meant ;) :P).   「Robster1983」 <sup style="color:Purple;"> ☞ Life's short, talk fast ☜  20:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you
Thanks for understanding where I was coming from. There is a world of difference between expressing an opinion on a subject, and telling a new person that they have no business expressing an opinion or asking a question and then setting them a work program where YOU think they'd be useful. And he kept doing that part again and again, as if I'm his servant. If I want someone's advice as to where to work, I will go and ask for it on a project page!

I'm grateful that you provided evidence that at least some people here can see that 'pushback' was a likely result of this attitude. At the moment, the fact that "they're not all mad" is about the only thing stopping me from ending my involvement. Orfeocookie (talk) 23:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I know it's difficult and you are frustrated. I would suggest simply working on "other stuff" in the mean time, and keeping this particular article on a "slow pace" as far as big changes go.  Mathsci has worked very long and hard on this article, so, despite Wikipedia's perrogative of bold editing, I'd  suggest maybe stepping away for a bit, and pursuing this only as a side project until you get a little more established. I have a couple of things I'm working on that could use some help, but are perhaps outside of your interest. So, anyway, the point is that I am here if you need a positive "shoulder" to keep you editing.  The last thing we wan t is a good editor giving up b/c of a bad experience. :) Quinn <sup style="color:#F166FF;">&#10048; BEAUTIFUL DAY  03:58, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Ironically, my pace has been very slow. I haven't altered a single word! And I doubt I would ever dare. I suspect that my editing is largely going to be confined to correcting obvious spelling or grammatical mistakes - which is pretty much what I used to do without an account anyway, as one isn't necessary for that purpose, but I suppose I had better log in to do it from now on just so that my edit count goes up. I am unlikely to be in a position to add genuinely new content very often - the List of compositions by Vagn Holmboe was a holiday project (and a surprisingly long one given it is just a list) and in the ordinary course of things I don't have the time to do that much in the way of consciously researching for sources. Nor is it my strength. Wikipedia uses the term 'edit' to cover a great many different concepts, and the ones I have expertise in relate more to considering the most effective means of presenting content already found by others. So it depends on what kind of help you'd like. The subject matter actually doesn't matter an enormous amount - my real-life job asks me to dive into all sorts of subjects with little notice, from offshore drilling to auction theory to wine labels (and amidst all this drama, the bright spot of my day was being told by a client how amazed they were at how much I'd picked up their particular subject within 3 weeks), so if you want any comments on structure/presentation I'm happy to comment. But only if you want it! I've certainly learnt THAT lesson for the moment. Orfeocookie (talk) 14:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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