User talk:DivaKavis



Stop! You recently cut and paste Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Make A Film Foundation to make Make A Film Foundation. You may not cut and paste pages to move them. You were told that the alternative is speedy deletion, and that has been requested. If you are unwilling to cooperate with processes, and insist on continuing to make this promotional page you may be blocked from editing and the page prevented from being created by anyone. ~ Charmlet -talk- 01:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Please also realize that you may not use more than one account to avoid scrutiny. If you continue to use more than one account in an attempt to avoid scrutiny, all of your accounts will be blocked from editing. ~ Charmlet -talk- 01:45, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Make A Film Foundation


A tag has been placed on Make A Film Foundation, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. ~ Charmlet -talk- 01:49, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Your request for undeletion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that a response has been made at Requests for undeletion regarding a submission you made. The thread is Make A Film Foundation. JohnCD (talk) 14:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Advice
It seems from this that you are the same person as user. I strongly recommend that you choose one account and stick to it, in order to avoid suspicions of "sockpuppetry".

Wikipedia does not do a good job of explaining this to new users, but it is a quite different sort of site from the likes of Myspace and Facebook where people and organizations "tell the world" about themselves. It is not for advertising or promotion of any kind, and is very resistant to attempts to use it in that way; hence the strong discouragement of WP:Autobiography and of any editing with a WP:Conflict of interest.

Some links you may find helpful:
 * Your first article
 * Plain and simple conflict of interest guide
 * Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause
 * User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:55, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

JohnCD
Hi John, Thank you so much for your help. I really do understand Wikipedia's need to eliminate accounts that do not abide by their standards. However, as a new user Im still figuring out how to navigate the site accordingly. I am only an volunteer for a non-profit charity that I believe is truly deserving of a wiki page. In creating it, I made sure to take the same format of the Make-a-Wish Foundation so that it wouldn't in anyway come off as an advertisement. The goal of this wiki page is to not advertise or promote the foundation, but to further validate the importance of its purpose. I genuinely love this foundation and all that it stands for and would not want to jeopardize it in any way on how it is perceived on any online "network." In my ignorance, I first established an account under the founders name because that's how Ive set up most of her accounts so that when need be, she can have access to them (email, twitter ect.). I can see how that would be a violation of "conflict of interest" and even "impersonation." However, please understand it was done with the purest intentions. After that page was created I thought to create a new account, and revive the page there. Again, ignorantly I copied and pasted the information, which is also a violation of Wikipedia. But honestly, I reeeally didn't want to retype all of my hard work again. Im not exactly computer savvy, so all of this takes a lot of time and hard work on my part. Thank you so much for you time and consideration. Please understand that I am willing to work with you all and make whatever changes I need to make in bringing Make A Film Foundation's wiki page to life :) Thanks Again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DivaKavis (talk • contribs) 17:25, 13 September 2013‎
 * I will reply in more detail tomorrow, though most of what I have to say is explained in the links in the message above.


 * Two quick points about talk page etiquette:
 * New messages should be added at the bottom. That is where people will look for them, so when you add them at the top or in the middle they are liable to be overlooked.
 * It helps keep track of who said what when if you sign messages on talk pages by ending them with a group of four "tilde" characters, which the system will automatically convert into a "signature" of your username and the time and date, like this:
 * JohnCD (talk) 21:47, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about initial mistakes - everybody makes them. This is a complicated site with many rules and traditions, and there is no way a new user can e expected to understand them all, so you have to learn by making mistakes. You had better abandon the TamikaLamison account, because accounts should not be in the name of another real person. Another important principle is, no shared accounts; if any friends or colleagues wish to edit, they must register their own accounts.


 * Because we don't explain in advance what Wikipedia is for, and more importantly what it is not for, many people see it as a free platform to boost themselves, their company or their favourite good cause. They all say they have no intent to advertise, they only want to "tell the world" etc. That goes against the fundamental policy of WP:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia has become extremely resistant to anything that looks like promotion.


 * You say you "genuinely love this foundation and all that it stands for", and that is just the problem, and the reason why COI editing is discouraged. If you write about it for Wikipedia, you must put that out of your mind. Forget any idea that you are writing for the Foundation. You are writing for Wikipedia about the Foundation, from outside. The reader should have no idea whether you, the author, think the foundation is good or bad, because what you write should express, or imply, no opinions, only plain facts, neutrally stated and cited to reliable sources. Don't talk about the Foundation's aims and hopes, only about what it has done.


 * Another fundamental policy is WP:Verifiability: "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published".


 * When you are ready, click the "submit" button, which will send the article for review by an experienced user, who will either accept it or give you feedback.


 * Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Tutorial
 * How to edit a page and How to develop articles
 * How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
 * Manual of Style


 * Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:54, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks John
Good morning John, sorry I am just not getting back to you. I followed your instruction to the best of my understanding. I want to thank you for your help and detailed response. I found those links very helpful. I hope you find that my article has an unbiased and neutral tone. I totally see what you mean by, "write for wiki and NOT for the foundation" it makes complete sense now. As a writer, I am usually pretty good at disconnecting myself from the subject at hand so that I can write from an informative point of view, instead of writing from a personal point of view. But let me know what you think, or what else I should change as it awaits approval. Thanks again!

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