User talk:Djba52

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Speedy deletion of Jonathon Shively
A tag has been placed on Jonathon Shively requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 03:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

February 2008
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from pages that you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, then please place  on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the page's. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  04:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

You have recently recreated or reposted material which previously was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not recreate this page without prior approval from an administrator or you may be blocked from editing. We ask that you respect what Wikipedia is not. If you disagree with the page's deletion, you may seek an independent deletion review. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  04:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Jonathon Shively
A tag has been placed on Jonathon Shively requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 04:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Jonathon Shively
Please don't recreate that with first showing how he/you is notable. Please read Notability. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You could work on it at User:Djba52/Sandbox and work on it there. I'll undelete it and move it there. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That didn't work properly. Create the sandbox yourself and I'll paste the material in. Sorry. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Just click on the sandbox link and I'll put the material in. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Just click on it. Put in something like "HI" and save. Then I'll put in the deleted material. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And the material is back. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's shouldn't. Only if you ask for it to be deleted or you put something in badmouthing the person without a source. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

About Jonathon Shively
What I think you really need to do with the article to gain more approval with members is make it less biased. By including words like "legendary" and "great", you're putting bias into the article, breaching the Neutral point of view policy on Wikipedia. I hope you're not discouraged from editing Wikipedia. I do see that you've found another user to help you, but I just thought I could help. If you want to reply, just click on "91093" and press the plus tab at the top. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, it's no big deal. Basically, articles must be written in an unbiased manner. Instead of thinking of Wikipedia as a place to write prose/essays, think of it as a place to publish raw material. If you need more help, you know where to contact me! And all questions are welcome. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, here's a basic question that I hope you can answer me. When was Mr. Shively born? Was he also born in Hiawassee, Georgia? — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And that might be true, but I don't know, 'cause I don't follow sports much. Has he won any notable awards? — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know any awards. Whatever you can think of, I guess. Has he ever been in a newspaper or on the news? — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There you go, then. Those seem like good things to put in there for notability. In the introduction, just say exactly what you said to me. Then, save it, and then tell them on the talk page the same thing. I know it can be confusing, but, in a nutshell, just put all the information of his notability as possible on there. Then, they will change their minds. The same happened with David Krae. I saved it from deletion, and I know you can do so with Jonathon Schively as well. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Continuation of Jonathon Shively
The good news is... if the article does get deleted, you can always ask an administrator to recover the text and put it in your userspace, where it's almost guaranteed that it won't get deleted. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and please don't be too discouraged by this. This is just one incident, and after this, you'll probably have a better understanding of Wikipedia, so this shouldn't happen again. With new users, it's always rough. Trust me... I was a new user once (pretty much before December 2007, 'though I created my account back in June 2006). — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you should check out Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia after this incident. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  06:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Look at what I did to the page. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  07:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It looks pretty good. As to him being notable I'm not sure. Have a look at Notability (people) which might help a bit. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 15:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Just noticed that it's got the wrong football box. That one is for soccer players. I think you want Template:Infobox Gridiron football person or Template:Infobox NFL PlayerCoach. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 20:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations, Djba52, you have been adopted by — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ. Please leave a message on my talk page if you want to be adopted by me. I would love to help you on your Jonathon Shively article. Happy editing! — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  05:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As a little tidbit, articles do not need the first level section with one equal sign per side. That is because at the very top of the page, it already mentions the article's name in that format, so having two would be redundant. If and when the article passes notability for athletes and you do decide to move it into the mainspace, you will see what I mean. Cheers! — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  05:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright. Just wanted to let you know, but, hey, if you know, then feel free to do so! Also, please make sure you always sign with four tildes ( ~ ). This then creates your signature, which is very important because it lets me know who left the message on my talk page. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  21:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

talk:Ku Klux Klan
Your comment on talk:Ku Klux Klan was highly inappropriate. Article talk pages exist solely to discuss improvements to their associated articles. Please don't use offensive racial epithets. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)