User talk:Djegan/Archive12

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Microsoft Defrag for MS-DOS.png
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Welcoming
Hey Djegan,

Since you were the wikipedian who welcomed me back in November I thought I'd come to you now that I'm sening my first welcome now! Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:EnoMetis looks like someone set up an account to publicise their campaign (which I've never heard of before). Was trying to post the wikicode for the welcome message with NPOV warning but can't seem to get it too work. Any chance you could have a look? AleXd (talk) 00:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Got it done. See here and here for the dodgy articles.AleXd (talk) 12:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Page moves / redirect
Doesn't moving a page automatically create a redirect? Sorry for leaving you with work... Bastun BaStun not BaTsun 22:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:The Derelict.PNG)
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Image:UKeU.PNG
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My views
It's not my views on politic that I have added. I am talking about the name of this state, which is Ireland, and which I want to keep on Wikipedia. It's not views, it's more preference to what this state is called in the real world. Are you arguing from a Unionist perspective? -78.19.77.76 (talk) 22:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Unionist perspective. Whatever. Djegan (talk) 22:34, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thought so! Most of my Unionist friends down through the years never wanted to call the state Ireland by its proper name. But we never fell out over it. 78.19.77.76 (talk) 22:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually your wrong. The delusion of grandeur is not patriotism.


 * "Illness is a sign that something is wrong".


 * But believe what you must. Regards, Djegan (talk) 22:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

And what I believe in any case is of no relevance here. Djegan (talk) 22:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You have actually accused another editor, whom you disagree with, of being under the influence of a particular political party. Whatever goes around, comes around. I'm afraid DJ, it was you who opened the door. 78.19.77.76 (talk) 23:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * When and where? Come on now be specific - quotes and such. Not vague claims. Djegan (talk) 23:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

But remember this is not the Spanish Inquisition. Unless you have a real and substantial case be off - and stop wasting my and your time. Djegan (talk)


 * Especially this one . You did seem to make a sort of soap-box anti-Ireland, (as in state), type speech. I know it can be a national past-time with some folks in Ireland to run down their own country. In fact, it was a Canadian who first pointed that out to me, and one of my Unionist friends from my business dealings recognised that aspect of character too. I do think it's important to be open about our bias when we argue these type of issues. That goes for history books too. Ask any academic, and they'll tell you that the nationality of the author of a certain history book can be relevant to its bias. As for me, I'm a citizen of Ireland, of mixed background, RC & C'I, and hopefully I'm totally unbiased on this issue, and I just want my country called by its proper name. Otherwise, no hard feelings. -78.19.77.76 (talk) 23:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You really are borderline on the trivial and silly now. Critical thinking isn't some type of dirty perversion - in fact it's an entirely healthy activity. You have no case (but if you do feel free to report it to the respective authorities on wikipedia).


 * The discussion is over - good night. Djegan (talk) 23:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Apology not required, or necessary. Good night to you. -78.19.77.76 (talk) 23:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyright Issue
Please see updated submission.

Ooverman (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

User:78.16.122.227
Hello Djegan. I'm at my personal 2-revert limit, would you revert the anon's changes to those articles? since he sought no discussion on them. GoodDay (talk) 22:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I will be logging off soon, but I suggest you report that user, I already have. Djegan (talk) 22:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Queen's University of Belfast.png
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CoA
Please review the matter on talk rather than reverting on sight like that. I commented there.Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk ) 11:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:1987intercitylogo.png
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PPS Number undo
Do you really think this info should be in the public domain? Especially with all the fraudsters and con-artists in the country now? And I wouldn't agree that removing it is censorship.


 * Its in the public domain now and we cannot get away from that - and many "fraudsters and con-artists" are both educated and sophisticated in their means. Such error detection and correction systems are widely practiced and understood in mathematical, scientific and technical circles to the point that they are often rudimentary and trivial in nature - their time in preventing all but the most amateurish fraud is long gone. It might be clichéd but in a time of computer databases and computer networks such systems no longer have the advantages that they did have previously. In any case we are not the secret police of any state. Djegan (talk) 16:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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Fianna Fail phone tapping scandal 1983
Thanks for putting that category on the article - I don't know why I missed it - the only thing I can say is: D'Oh!!! Autarch (talk)

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Dublin Region / County Dublin
I know you're "semi-retired", but thought you might be interested in this discussion. Guliolopez (talk) 13:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Apology - Names of the Irish state
It seems that I accused you of the very thing you were trying to put right - arbitrary page moves. Please accept my apologies. There have been some arbitrary page moves going on in articles related to Ireland and I'm afraid I shot first and asked questions afterwards. --Red King (talk) 15:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Ireland/ROI Questions at Manual of Style (Ireland-related articles)
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Anon contributions to Talk:Republic of Ireland
Djegan, FYI :

You responded to a post to the RoI talk questioning if the post, my an anon, was a sock puppet. As part of the AN/I involving User:Pureditor it has been disclosed that that post was indeed sock pf Pureditor, which she/he then changed the sig of to point to an IP used by me. Presumably that wa part of a effort to discredit my contributions. See here. She/he has been barred for 48 hours.

(Incidentally, the result of the AN/I request appears to have been to roundly defend my right to participate in any form of discussion on an equal footing to all other editors.) --89.19.88.228 (talk) 21:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Their instead of there
For a long time I notice that you improperly use their instead of there. I don't want to seem pedantic so this is just a friendly note to point you to a web page that explains the use of there, their and the're. It grates my eyes each time I see it, so I hope this helps. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 01:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I do appreciate the difference, but you going to have to put up with it. Spelling reform. Djegan (talk) 09:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * With respect, I've noticed too - some posts have multiple spelling mistakes. It leaves an impression. --HighKing (talk) 15:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thats your opinion, and your welcome to it. Language is a tool and like every tool it takes experience to master, and just like a physical tool, so to can language be redesigned, improved, reformed, etc. Djegan (talk) 22:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * HighKing -- for someone that likes to quote WP:AFG, WP:CIVIL regularily you are very upfront about my poor spelling. Could your comments be considered a personal attack? Double standards? Djegan (talk) 22:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I doubt it. I'm happy to remove/withdraw my clearly unwanted comment.  --HighKing (talk) 23:35, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks but not withdrawal not required. Just an observation. Djegan (talk) 23:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well DJ you really made me laugh to claim that improper use of a pronoun is called Spelling reform particularly when you "appreciate the difference". But that's just you! Cheers ww2censor (talk) 02:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)