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Link Check tools
Glad to help. A link checker tool lives here. A disambiguation page (dab) finder lives here. To cross out something, use a pair of html codes like this. You can view these simple codes in edit mode to see exactly what to insert. They are all handy, and I use them often. Finetooth (talk) 15:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Djflem
I noticed you did an edit on New Netherland and working on related articles too. I started doing edits on New Netherland a week or so ago with plans to do a lot more there. I could use some help though and was wondering if you can assist me there? Is English your first language? any Dutch? I'm Dutch. DeVerm (talk) 05:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

New Netherlander
A tag has been placed on New Netherlander, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template   to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Quality check 10:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

WHOA! Chill out! Let people write the articles before you berzerk them to deletion, Quality check. Djflem, please continue writing, and thanks! --KP Botany (talk) 10:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

New Netherlands
Hey don't worry about it. I've seen far far worse. There was one article (I forget the name) where I disammed the word pop to pop music I believe 8 times. Many don't realize that it's an issue. So no biggie. I'll take a look at New Netherlander. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 10:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Lead section, lead sentence, fact template
Hello. Could I ask you to read WP:Lead section before you change the lead section of New Netherlander on more time? Since this is an article on "New Netherlander", the lead section and the lead sentence above all needs to be a summary of what New Netherlanders were, not what New Netherland was. That is covered in the New Netherland article.

In addition, I have reposted a fact tag on your assertion that Hebrew was (possibly) spoken. Even though you now wrote "possibly", I'm asking for your basis for stating that it would even be suspected. Please read Wikipedia's guideline on verifiability. While every single assertion in an article certainly doesn't need to be backed up explicitly with a citation of a reliable source, on the assumption that everything in an article is written in good faith and is correct and noncontroversial, when someone puts up a fact tag, it is inappropriate to remove it without resolving the question that led to its placement. As for your use of the word "possibly" to address my previous use of the tag, please see the guideline on weasel words. If "possibly" just means that you think it's possible, rather than meaning that there is some evidence that has led someone, as reported in a reliable source, to conclude that the possibility is there while an uncertainty remains, then the assertion ought not to be in the article at all.

Finally: in your determination to undo my changes, you even reverted your link to the page on the Coins site to a non-working address. (The URLs on that website are evidently case-sensitive.) I've again fixed that reference.

—Largo Plazo (talk) 12:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello-Largo Pazo,
 * My apologies about the confusion. I started this article not long ago, and was sort of frantically trying to import info from other articles re: {[New Netherland]] that I have been working on recently. I did notice edit conflicts were happening but I thought that was because I hadn't saved something before wandering around the other articles looking for specific material and references. I was not trying to revert, undo, or undermine at all. I'm pleased that you'd like to work on this piece, especially since it seems language is one of you specialities. In response to some of your concerns. Yes I agree the header is to geography oriented, rather than people oriented, and can minimaliszed re: location, though it should give reader some idea of where is was.
 * I do no know if Hebrew was spoken. I do not know if the Sephardi who arrived from Brazil in 1654 were practicing, but if so, they or may not have read the Torah outloud, which is a form of speaking, recitation.....Is that a good possibility?
 * Hope you will continue to help with you contributionsDjflem (talk) 20:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi there, thanks for your response. I see what you mean about the edit conflicts. I agree that providing adequate context within the text instead of only through hyperlinked material is a good thing, but only enough for orientation. Since the meaning of "New Netherland" won't be clear to everyone, I kept the short description of where it was, without keeping the entirety of the first paragraph of the New Netherland article.


 * Regarding the mention of Hebrew: scriptural and liturgical passages were most definitely read aloud in Hebrew during religious services, but so is Latin during a traditional Roman Catholic mass. Identifying Hebrew among the languages spoken in New Netherland is like identifying Latin as one the languages spoken in Ireland or Argentina or the Philippines!


 * Overall I think the article is interesting. Thanks for writing it. —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Forts of New Netherlands?
you recently added the category Forts of New Netherlands to the Fort Nassau (North) page. That is a redlink as Forts of New Netherlands does not exist as a category. I will be removing it, as redlinks shouldnt be in categories. Please consider creating this category, as I agree it should exist. If you need help, ask.Camelbinky (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I got the category Category:Forts of New Netherland created. I made it a subcategory of Category:New Netherland. Took me awhile to realize why Fort Nassau (South) is in italics. The article is a redirect to Gloucester City, New Jersey. I would suggest taking the category label off the Fort Nassau (South) page and put it on the Gloucester City page instead.Camelbinky (talk) 18:40, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Could use some help on an article
Since you are probably one of the most knowledgeable editors on wikipedia concerning Dutch colonial history and New Netherland I was hoping you could add information to History of Albany, New York specifically the section on prehistory and dutch colonial period. Its a very preliminary start of an article.Camelbinky (talk) 01:22, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Bergen name
Hello, I've been reading your thoughts on the Bergen naming controversy (as well as other entries), and they're most interesting. There are, as you suggest, many years of debate over where the names of the various 'Bergen' entities come from. I suspect you may be right, that only the Bergen names in Brooklyn derive from Hans Hansen Bergen the shipwright. I can tell you as a descendant of Bergen and the Rapalje clan that it was always family oral history that not only did the name in Brooklyn derive from the family, but that the name of the places in New Jersey did also. (Some sources back this up.) However, this early source and others support the thesis that the Bergen names in New Jersey derive from either the town in Holland or from the word 'bergen' in Dutch. I now suspect that they (and you) are correct. I am writing to Russell Shorto to see if he has any thoughts on the matter as the author of a recent, well-regarded book on New Amsterdam, and I am still trying to run down some sources at the Holland Society in NYC. But I think now that, barring some revelation, evidence points to the theories you suggest for the naming of the places in New Jersey. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 05:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Vriessendael
Thank you for your very extensive and good work on the Edgewater article. It inspires me to continued work on the Vriessendael page. I am busy with improving articles in the series. Your imput would be appreciated.Djflem (talk) 22:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind that I copied the above from my talk page. I did it just for context.  As you can see I placed the historical marker photo from Edgewater, NJ in the Vriessendael article.  If you have objections, please let me know...easy in, easy out.  I can see from references on this talk page that you have worked on several related pages, and I look forward to reading them.  The Dutch history in the New York Harbor vicinity is so interesting, and I am just now waking up to that fact.  Thank you for the compliment on the Edgewater article, and I shall try to do as you ask.  Best wishes, Manray00 (talk) 14:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw your redirect of Shadyside to the Edgewater, New Jersey article. Good idea.  You are industrious.Manray00 (talk) 03:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Administrative divisions of New York
If you have some time can you give some historical background on villages/towns/cities in New Netherland and Long Island and the legal distinction between the three and how New Netherland had municipal government for the discussion on the talk page (last section at the bottom of the talk page) to perhaps clear up for everyone just when towns in today's NY were created and their functions. Thank you.24.182.142.254 (talk) 23:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Bergen’s Beginning - 1682 to 1709
Bergen’s Beginning - 1682 to 1709 Townships of Bergen and Hackensack Formed in 1693

The East Jersey Legislature created the states first counties in 1675 mainly to provide “judicial districts” for the courts. A court was set up in the town of Bergen and two courts were held each year. Names were not given to the counties until seven years later when the counties of Bergen, Essex, Middlesex, and Monmouth were named by the Legislature.

So Bergen County came into being in 1682. The County then included all of the land between the Hackensack River and the Hudson River, extending from Constable Hook on the south to the province line (boundary with New York) on the north.

In 1693, an act defining boundaries of townships was passed by the General Assembly. Bergen County was then divided into two townships; Bergen and Hackensack. The Township of Bergen consisted of the area from Constable Hook to the present northern boundary of Hudson County.

The remainder was defined as; “The Township of Hacksack (sic) shall include all that land between the Hackinsack and Hudson’s Rivers that extends from the Corporation town of bounds of Bergen to the Partition line of the Province.”  (Note that this “partition line” was in dispute with New York for many years as shown by the map.) New Barbadoes Township is added in 1710

Espatin
at Union Hill Hudson Bergen Line  der Cappellen bergen&f=false Van der Cappllen

Winfield's History of Hudson County  History of the county of Hudson, New Jersey, from its earliest settlement to the present time. By Charles H. Winfield. Winfield, Charles Hardenburg, 1829-1898.

Hudson Waterfront
According to the United States Census Bureau
 * BYonne: total area of 11.2 square miles (29.1 km²), of which, 5.6 square miles (14.6 km²) of it is land and 5.6 square miles (14.6 km²) of it (50.04%) is water.
 * JC:a total area of 54.7 km2 (21.1 mi2). 38.6 km2 (14.9 mi2) of it is land and 16.1 km2 (6.2 mi2) of it is water.
 * HOBtotal area of 5.1 km2 (2.0 mi2). 3.3 km2 (1.3 mi2) of it is land and 1.8 km2 (0.7 mi2) of it is water. The total area is 35.35% water.
 * WHKN:total area of 1.5 square miles (3.9 km²), of which, 0.9 square miles (2.2 km²) of it is land and 0.7 square miles (1.7 km²) of it (43.71%) is water
 * UC:total area of 1.3 sq mi (3.3 km²).
 * WNY:total area of 1.3 square miles (3.4 km2), of which, 1.0 square miles (2.6 km2) of it is land and 0.3 square miles (0.8 km2) of it (23.48%) is water.
 * NB:total area of 5.6 square miles (14.6 km²), of which, 5.2 square miles (13.5 km²) of it is land and 0.4 square miles (1.1 km²) of it (7.47%) is water.
 * GBG:total area of 0.2 square miles (0.6 km2), of which, 0.2 square miles (0.5 km2) of it is land and 0.04 square miles (0.1 km2) of it (16.67%) is water.
 * FVW:total area of 0.9 square miles (2.2 km2), of which, 0.9 square miles (2.2 km2) of it is land and none of the area is covered with water.
 * CLF:a total area of 1.0 square miles (2.5 km2), all of it land.
 * EDGE:total area of 2.4 square miles (6.3 km2), of which, 0.9 square miles (2.2 km2) of it is land and 1.6 square miles (4.1 km2) of it (64.88%) is water.
 * FTLee:total area of 2.9 square miles (7.5 km2), of which, 2.5 square miles (6.6 km2) of it is land and 0.3 square miles (0.9 km2) of it (12.15%) is water.

TOTAL LAND AREA; 35.7 MILES

Dates of New Netherland

 * 1609-Hudson's Claim
 * 1614-New Netherland Company Charter
 * 1621-Dutch West India Company Charter
 * 1624-Provincial Status granted
 * 1625-First Settlers at Noten Eylandt
 * 1664-Surrender of New Amsterdam
 * 1667-Treaty of Breda
 * 1673-Surrender of New York
 * 1674-Treaty of Westminster


 * year_start            = 1609
 * year_end              = 1674
 * event_start           = Henry Hudson's Claim
 * event_post            = New Netherland Company Charter
 * date_post             = 1614
 * event_post            = Dutch West India Company Charter
 * date_post             = 1621
 * event_post            = Settlement Governor's Island
 * date_post             = 1625
 * event_post            = Treaty of Breda
 * date_post             = 1667
 * event_end             = Surrender of Fort Amsterdam
 * date_end              = 1664
 * event_end             = Surrender of New York
 * date_post             = 1673
 * event_post            = Treaty of Westminster
 * date_post             = 1674

Paterson Museum
Thanks, glad to help. Hopefully it can be developed with your local knowledge.--mervyn (talk) 10:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Geography

 * Brinkerhoff
 * communipaw images
 * History of Hoboken 1909
 * JC in Vintage Postcards]
 * Jerset City
 * Sidis on Jersey City
 * [hallgc.com/httpdocs/page4.html recent completed projects]
 * Hudson Waterfront images!!!!!
 * NYPL Hudson Panarama 1910
 * Virtual Tour/Wm Wade engravings
 * map maker
 * Union City street name changes
 * Bergen Hill/Liberty/Eldorado
 * The Meadowlands: Wilderness Adventures on the Edge of a City (book description)
 * full moon over hoboken
 * {http://lostinjersey.wordpress.com/tag/nj-palisades/]
 * NJCU


 * 
 * cj=1&o_xid=0001231185&o_lid=0001231185 jc timeline]
 * 
 * [books.google.nl/books?isbn=0752413643...JC Jersey in Vintage Postcards)



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 * Reporter Weehawken Lodge]
 * 07086 USPS Box
 * Review of Boulevard East
 * SkateCity:Fort Lee to Hoboken
 * the Palisades
 * Galaxy Rising
 * Train Photos]
 * www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8reibDKLos —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.210.7.209 (talk) 08:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

"Railroads of Hoboken and Jersey City"
Recently purchased the book "Railroads of Hoboken and Jersey City" which has a chapter devoted to each railroad that had a waterfront terminal (along with the H&M and Public Service Trolley Lines) with numerous photos showing the way it was. The book was written by Kenneth France and published in 2002 by Arcadia Publishing. A contact listed in the book is sales@arcadiapublishing.com and I recommend purchasing a copy.

United New Jersey Railroad and Canal Company
I reverted your link changes; please read WP:R2D. Thank you. --NE2 01:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hudson Waterfront
Sure, I can put together a revised map. I'll put something together in a few days. Thanks. Darkcore (talk) 01:48, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hudson County Routes
I fixed up the three Hudson County route article you requested. However, if you plan to write future articles, you need to make sure they conform to WP:USRD/STDS. There were two major issues that caught my attention in looking at your articles. One, they need to have Template:Infobox road. And two, the lead should not include a shield of the route (as it is in the infobox) and any terms that redirect (i.e, the county route designations) should be bolded and not wikilinked. If you follow my example, you can make these improvements yourself. Dough4872 (talk) 23:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Weehawken (Images of America)
weehawken 1830 census Weehawken from Turtle Dove by Lauren Sherman ISBN13: 9780738562681 ISBN10: 0738562688

Although less than one square mile in area, Weehawkenas rich history extends more than 400 years to when Dutch explorers first dropped anchor in Weehawken Cove. The town commands a unique location overlooking the Hudson River, with sweeping views of New York City. Its story begins with Weehawkenas early bucolic estates, the idyllic attractions of the magnificent Palisades, and its notorious hidden dueling grounds, where Alexander Hamilton met his end at the hands of Aaron Burr in 1804. By the mid-19th century, a shift toward urban industrial development changed the landscape, as evidenced by the iconic 1883 Weehawken water tower and the sprawling, long-gone 1890s Eldorado Amusement Park that brought throngs of visitors via the largest passenger elevator in the world at that time. The construction of the Lincoln Tunnel as well as the developments of the townas neighborhoods, commerce, and government all helped to shape Weehawkenas past and future.

Jersey City 1940-1960: The Dan Mcnulty Collection - Resultaten voor Zoeken naar boeken met Googledoor Kenneth French - 1997 - History - 128 pagina’s Five Journal Square It has often been pointed out by newcomers that Jersey City has no real central commercial area. While it is true that the city has many ... books.google.nl/books?isbn=0738537314...

Jersey City's Journal Square with McGinley & Bergen Squares Auteur: Charles P Caldes Uitgever: Ridgefield, N.J. : Journal Square Publishing, ©2007.

Author: Bien, Joseph Rudolf; Vermeule, C. C. (Cornelius Clarkson), 1858-1950

Date: 1891

Short Title: Brooklyn, N.Y. Bay, Jersey City, Hoboken, Bayonne, Newark Bay.

Publisher: New York: Julius Bien

Type: Atlas Map

Obj Height cm: 54

Obj Width cm: 81

Scale 1: 31,680

Note: Col. lithograph



- NY Times: If You're thinking of living in Weehawken

Weehawken Ferry Ed Ochester June 1985, Juniper Press isbn 10: 0317264982 isbn 13: 9780317264982

Hudson County border
Djflem, I removed the incorrect description of the Hackensack River being a border of Hudson County because according to the article on the river, it ends between Jersey City and Kearny. The Hackensack never enters Essex County before joining the Newark Bay, and cannot be a border of Hudson County. You reverted my sourced change, and I was wondering if you had another source that contradicts my change.  Jim Miller  See me 19:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * So it is! Bad job on my part. Thanks  Jim Miller  See me 19:42, 31 August 2009 (UTC)==

Exhibitions

 * Afro-American Historical Society Museum at Miller Branch of the Jersey City Public Library)<refAfro-American Historical Society Museum Begun as a grass-roots iniative, the collection includes hisory of county's African-American population, the county's role in the Underground Railroad, the 1964 riots, and MLK's speeches.
 * Bayonne Firefighter's Museum Small collection exloring history of fires and firefighting
 * Central Railroad of New Jersey Terminal immigration, transportation
 * Cultural Thread/El Hilo petrified lugguage found along the rail tracks dating from the turn of century
 * Ellis Island Immigration Museum
 * Hoboken Artists Studio Tour, annual "open house"
 * Hoboken Historical Museum, history and local contemporary artists
 * Hoboken House Tour annual "open house" of private spaces
 * Hoboken Public Library, local history and local artists
 * Hudson County Courthouse permanent murals depicting early history gallery showing contemporary work
 * Kearny Museum local and civil war history
 * Jersey City Artists Studio Tour, annual "open house"
 * Jersey City Museum
 * Liberty Science Center Environment, health, invention
 * Liberty State Park Intrepretive Center, environmental and historical
 * New Jersey Room of Jersey City Public Library Main Branch, public archives including historical documents and photos
 * Martin Luther King Station memorial to civil rights leader and movement
 * Meadowlands Exposition Center, trade shows and cultural fairs
 * Monroe Center contemporary arts, crafts, design, and performance
 * New Jersey City University
 * Lemmerman Gallery
 * Visual Arts Gallery
 * Sculpture Garden
 * Saints Peters College Art Gallery
 * Statue of Liberty

Would you mind reading/copyediting this for me?
I've just brought my rewrite of Kiliaen van Rensselaer (Dutch merchant) live. Would you mind reading it through and possibly copyediting it? Camelbinky speaks highly of your New Netherland knowledge, so this would be a good peer review. Also, would you mind commenting on a discussion regarding "Van" vs "van" on my talk page? Thanks.  upstate NYer formerly wadester16 00:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Street alignments
A majority of the streets in Jersey City are named streets, with Downtown the only district with numbered streets - in an East-West alignment.


 * The numbered streets go from 1 to 18 and cover only half of Downtown. Some numbered streets are discontinuous, being interrupted at various points by buildings. Second Street is the only numbered street in the city that runs from the Palisades to the edge of the Hudson River without obstruction.
 * Many streets are named for families who were early settlers, many of them New Netherlanders. Among them:Van Vorst Street, Tuers Street (Jane Tuers), Tonelle Avenue (John Tonelle), Sip Avenue (Peter Sip), Van Reypan, Newkirk, Suydam Street, Van Nostrand
 * Many streets are named after American Revolution generals. Examples; Washington Street, Mercer Street, Greene Street, Montgomery Street, Wayne Street, Warren Street, Lafayette Street, Steuben Street and Gates Avenue.
 * Some names are shared with New Jersey counties: aforementioned Mercer as well as Warren, Essex, Sussex, Monmouth, Ocean, Hudson,
 * Two boulevards are Marin Boulevard (named for Luis Muñoz Marín, the first elected Governor of Puerto Rico), which crosses the Hoboken city line, and JF Kennedy Boulevard, which traverses the county.
 * Most drives are named after people in local and world history: Martin Luther King Drive, Christopher Columbus Drive, and Audrey Zapp Drive.
 * In Greenville some small residential streets called parkways and feature a center island, such as Stegman Parkway, and Wegman Parkway.
 * There are several "roads" which mention their destination: Old Bergen Road, Caven Point Road, Secaucus Road and Paterson Plank Road. Newark Avenue was originally Newark Plank Road, while Garfield Avenue and Grand Street were part of Bergen Point Plank Road.
 * The names of many residential streets in Jersey City change along their route. One notable continuity change is Grove Street. It is named Grove Street between the Hoboken border and Boyle Plaza, Manila Avenue between 12th Street and 1st Street, then Grove Street again between 1st Street and Grand Street.

Wehawken
The fact remains that imprinting a picture of the history of Weehawken based on it population fluctuations, rustbelt and Great Migration sterotypes does not tell the anything of the actual story. Weehawken lost no housing stock, indeed gained housing units in the 1960's and 1970s. The population aged. The original German-speaking vanguard (who may or may not have been Jewish) maintained their reisidences, bequethed it one of their children who started their own smaller families or divided it up into smaller apartment rented to childless individuals. and business It appears that .... has not been to the place who (one would hope) that a comaprison to Hell's Kitchen and Weehawken, is like a comaprsion to apples and oranges. Subdivided/urbanized in the early 20th century, Weehawken would certainly have an appeal to those 2nd/3rd generation immigrants chosing to live a an owner-occupied single/two family home than a overcrowded tenement in Hoboken, JC, the West side, the Lower East Side, Yorkville, and move to JC Heights, North Hudson, Astoria, Canarsie, Fordham. they raised their kids and they stayed.

Hoboken Terminal
Bravo on the extensive work you've been doing to overhaul the article. I believe it reads better now, while keeping the major factual details redily and accurately availible. Those sorts of details are of supreme importance to the railfans who'd be heavily interested in the article. I've seen few technical errors, and applaud your work.

That said, two wiki-specific notes that might help you in future editing. Firstly, you should try to bunch your edits more. If your working on a section, or even a whole article, it's often better to copy the source text over to another program, make all the changes there, then copy it back to the edit box, using the preview button to check for appearance and function. This allows for your edits to appear as one entry in the edit history, making it much easier for other editors to follow along with what you're doing.

Secondly, as part of your edits, you wiki-linked terms that are already linked earlier in the article text. This is discouraged, as the redundant links bloat the page source, and often result in a sections of text winding up as fields of blue links, which are harder to read. (Note, however, that this doesn't apply to infobox links. The pressence of a link in both the infobox and text is ok.)

Anyway, thanks for your hard work. oknazevad (talk) 14:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Environs and Access
Thought the passengers facilities are located within Hoboken, a large part of the infrastructure that suports them are located over the Jersey City city line, which cuts across the rail yard at a northwest diagonal from the river to the intersection of Grove Street and Newark Street. It is at this corner that Observer Highway begins running parallel to the tracks and creating a defacto border for Hoboken. The Long Slip (created with the landfilling of Harsimus Cove) creates the southern perimeter of the station, separating it from Newport, Jersey City. Motor vehicle acces to the station is extremely limited. At the eastern end of Observer Highway bus are permitted to enter their terminal. Other vehicles are required to do a dog-leg turn onto Hudson Place. As the only street with motor vehicles adjacent to the station it acts as a pick-up/drop off point, and hosts a dedicated taxi stand. Egress from the terminal requires travelling north (for at least one block) on River Street. Hudson Place ends at Warringtron Plaza. On this square one finds the main entrance to the waiting room and the vehicle entrances to the currently unused original ferry slips. A statue of Sam Sloan, president of the DL&W, moved during renovations faces the loading docks of the nearby post office. The plaza was named in honor of George Warrington, influential in the creation of New Jersey Transit, and as its executive director enabled the purchase and preservation of the station. In 2009, pedestrian access to the terminal from the south was made possible with the opening of a new segment of the Hudson River Waterfront Walkway. The closing of this gap along the promenade makes nearly completes the area it possible the Morris Canal to Weehawken Cove. Signage along the concourse at the rail head inside the Hoboken Terminal indictae that it is offically part of the walkway.

Hudson Place as part of Hoboken Terminal article
Great addition to the article overall, but as you may notice I removed the Hudson Place road infobox again, as it really belongs in an article about Hudson Place as a county road. To that end, I noticed your recent moves at Hudson Place, and wanted to comment on those.

The move of the former article on the propsed Manhattan development to Hudson Place (Manhattan) was good, as there are multiple items using the name, so a disambiguation is in order. But the other material is not so good.

Calling the article on the NJ county route Hudson Place (Hoboken Terminal) simply doesn't work on two levels.

Firstly, the article is simply a redirect to Hoboken Terminal, which, as I said above, should be a separate article. As far as I know, it's been established that all numbered routes are considered notable, so an article should exist for it anyway.

Secondly, the naming convention for NJ county route articles is to title them by number, not name. See the article on County Route 503 (New Jersey) as an example. Redirects can be created from common names, such as Kinderkamack Road pointing to the 503 article, but the title is the number. Therefore, the proper title of a Hudson Place article would be County Route 763 (New Jersey), with an appropriate redirect being Hudson Place (Hoboken). The current disambiguator of (Hoboken Terminal) is inappropriate, as the street is not part of the terminal, nor is it a valid geographic distinction for disambiguation.

Anyway, just my $0.02.oknazevad (talk) 05:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Good call with covering it with a link to the List of county routes in Hudson County, New Jersey article. As I was pondering what to do here, I was looking over the talk pages regarding county roads in NJ, and from prior consensus, it seems that the action was taken to merge county roads numbered 600 and up into county specific articles (as they don't cross county lines and are minor, as opposed to 500-series roads, which do). Therefore, I think the link at the Hudson Place disambig page should probably just point to the list of routes in Hudson county, with a brief description of its name. Also, the redirects should be pointed there as well, with the redirect inks on that page to Hoboken Terminal removed. In short, the list of Hudson County routes should be where all links to Hudson Place point. oknazevad (talk) 15:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Road article infobox images
Hi. Do the infoboxes images in road articles have to be of the road marker? If I can photos of the road itself, can those be placed in there instead? I tried doing so, and it worked, so is there any policy or guideline forbidding it? Nightscream (talk) 01:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC) Though I have no particular affinity for the road markers, thay are an element which ties the articles together in the series of which they are part. If you look at the discussion pages of some, you will notice they are rated within : The infobox, with marker, is standard. The person(s) who are particpate would most likely not take kindly to the markers removal. My preference/inclination would be to leave it, as I also used it a impetus to write some of them (Category:County Routes in Hudson County, New Jersey) Why not add photos elsewhere in the articles?.Djflem (talk) 02:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Nightscream (talk) 07:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Meadowlands (NJT station)
The answer, simply put, is to not include it. No New Haven line trains actually reach the Meadowlands station, as there's no direct track connections between New York Penn Station and the Meadowlands Rail Line. All passengers coming from Connecticut to the Meadowlands must transfer at Secaucus Junction in order to reach there. The shuttle trains that they would utilize are already covered by the existing route boxes, so one for the New Haven Game trains aren't needed.

As an additional point, they aren't needed at the Penn Station or Secaucus Junction articles, either, because once the trains reach NYP from New Haven, the Metro-North crew hands the train (which is made up of NJT equipment) to an NJT crew, and it then proceeds to either Trenton or Long Branch as a regualrly scheduled NJ Transit train, (no train actually terminates at Secaucus). So from the standpoint of those two stations, there's nothing unique about those trains. oknazevad (talk) 16:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I fully agree that the New Haven Line special event service warants mention at the Meadowlands station article, and possibly the Secaucus Junction one as well, but since it's a special service, I think that it should be covered in the main article text, not the infobox, as it alrewady is at the New Haven Line article. Maybe the a brief section, cross linked to that article's section on it would work best. I'll see what I can come up with.oknazevad (talk) 19:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I am undoing your changes. Two reasons. The first is simply a preference, namely I would have pointed the redirect the other way, because the station is the key factor here, not the short spur that serves it.

The second is far more serious. What you did amounts to a copy and paste move, a big no-no, as preserving the edit history is necessary for reasons of copyright and licensing.

So I'm reverting the change of Meadowlands (NJT station) to a redirect, and pointing the Meadowlands Rail Line to that as a redirect. Any changes you made since (which I didn't really get a good look at, but the phrasing of Secaucus as a "central station" is meh) will have to be redone there. oknazevad (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Good work on the split! There are some things that are in both, and that could be viewed as redundant, but I think that's inherent considering the intertwined nature of the line and station. Based on the work you've done on the split, I do think that having separate articles is a good idea. But don't rely solely on me. Make a mention of it over at the relevant wikiproject and see what they say.

I did, however, move the station article back to Meadowlands (NJT station), in order to keep it in line with other NJT station articles.

The convention that's developed with active American train stations is to parenthetically reference which system presently serves the station, even if the name is unique, unless its served by more that one railroad, like Pennsylvania Station (New York), Union Station (Washington) or Union Station (Chicago). In those cases, the parentheses are to disambiguate an common name for stations. However, disambiguators are used on station articles in order to have a consistent disambiguation format between stations and their surrounding towns. oknazevad (talk) 18:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

History
Boulevard East was developed at the turn of the 20th century. Prior to that time most of the land at the edge of the precipice was privately held as estates, farms, or quarries. Further inland ran Bulls Ferry Road, today's Park Avenue, which ran north from Hoboken to North Bergen and then descended to the landing on the Hudson River at the road which still bears the name. The neighborhoods bordering the boulevard were subdivided as real estate developments, the new streetcar system, the conveinence of ferry connections to Manhattan, the natural landscape, and the view all selling points. An electic mix of early 20th century architectural styles (Queen Anne, Arts and Crafts Movement, Beaux-Arts, Dutch Colonial, Tudor Revival, Colonial Revival and can be found along their streets. Low rise pre-war apartment buildings and residential highrises (many from the 1970s) are add to the diversity.

DYK nomination for Meadowlands Rail Line
I nominated the article Meadowlands Rail Line at T:TDYK for inclusion on the Wikipedia front page's Did You Know..? section. There's nothing more that you need to do, and I would be happy to help you with nominating future new articles. Keep up the great work on all things New Jersey! Alansohn (talk) 02:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC) Thanks!Djflem (talk) 02:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Jersey City streets
Hi Djflem. I have seen you lately do a lot of work on Jersey City Streets. I was wondering if the Jersey City section of List of eponymous streets in Hudson County should have a listing just about mayors? If you look at List of mayors of Jersey City, New Jersey you can find many street names match that list (Romar, Hague, Gangemi, etc.).

I also wondered if you had any other sources on John Tonnele. I have been preparing a bio on him at User:JimMillerJr/Sandbox/John Tonnele, but have no good sources about which family member Tonnele Avenue was named. I would appreciate any help if you have anything so that I could add a Legacy section to the article. Thanks.  Jim Miller  See me

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Articles for deletion nomination of List of eponymous streets in Hudson County
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Weehawken
Hey. Thanks for all your hard work finding sources for those notables. Two questions though:

1. For those first two notables you re-added: The source for Ed Alberian has a date of April 2. Is there a year available for this?

2. For Adele Astaire, you cited a book, Dancing with Deomns. Would I be correct in assuming that this was intended to be Demons? I figured it was, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks, and Happy Holidays! Nightscream (talk) 20:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at WT:CITIES
Hi, Djflem. I'm just letting you know there's a discussion at WikiProject Cities that involves a dispute you had at the Union City, New Jersey article. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 16:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

List of city nicknames in New Jersey
Hi. Thanks for adding Union City nicknames to List of city nicknames in New Jersey. For verifiability and to prevent the city nicknames lists from becoming collections of made-up cruft, we need to insist on citations to reliable sources for nicknames in these articles. Please provide citations for your additions. --Orlady (talk) 23:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Giving UC a rest
Pity. I was mostly alone on the article insofar as good, non-casual editors with expertise on it; I was hoping that I now had a colleague to bounce stuff around with. Hope it wasn't I that soured you on it. Do you live in UC? See you around! Nightscream (talk) 23:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. I don't dispute that you have a valid point in that the stadium no longer exists (I only kept a mention of it because you left a mention of it in), but the reason I it as a landmark was because it hosted events in which Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig participated, making it historically or architecturally significant, much like the other ones in the section. In what way is UCHS historically significant, or a landmark? Nightscream (talk) 10:57, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Palisade Avenue
I don't want to sound bossy, but Palisade Aveneue is not notable. NJ 67 already has an article, and that's not even all Palisade. We really don't need these stub roads on Hudson County roads man. It doesn't help that almost everything you've created are really bad stubs for the project. Could we possibly move them to WP: US Streets? Mitch 32(Live from the Bob Barker Studio at CBS in Hollywood. Its Mitch!) 22:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if you feel in some way that "the project" which you don't specify, but I assume is WikiProject U.S. Streets, is somehow being cluttered with stubs. I do not add my articles to projects generally. Some people pick them up and add them to the road project. As you noticed I am interested in streets. Streets are a part of the geography, history, and culture of a place. The one I'm particularly interested in is Hudson County: It location, the lay of the land, it's borders, and infrastructure are part of the story. Most of my articles about streets are connected well linked to others, particularly in articles related to neighborhoods, transporation, in sections regarding muncipal boundaries or historical events. As the body of information grows the sketches that are there will also grow. An good example, whether ör not it is to your interest or taste or fits into the parameters of "the project" is Summit Avenue (Hudson County), which is part of Streets in Hudson County, which in turn is part of Geography of Hudson County and Category:Streets in New Jersey I think a general reader will find more appeal in such an article than in one that goes on for paragraghs with statements like "at the red light it takes a right and travels for an quarter mile and merges with two lane state road before veering south where at the intersection the sidewalk is replaced by a soft shoulder". As you know many streets have more than one county or state designation, a notable street, Boulevard East, being one of the them. To divide it into its three designations would be ineffective, not do it justice, and well, dumb. Looking at WikiProject U.S. Streets, some may indeed qualify, and I'll likely add them. If its important to to reduce the number of stubs, why?Djflem (talk) 23:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, if you get the chance, can you remove the US Roads tag from a few? I only merged Danforth because the HBLR station does deserve its own article. Just don't cover NJ 67 too much, albeit it has an article. Mitch 32(Live from the Bob Barker Studio at CBS in Hollywood. Its Mitch!) 23:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for poking my nose in, but I started watching your talk page when I suspected you might be disruptive. I'll stop. I suspect Palisade Avenue could be found notable, running through several cities, and paralleling the nearby cliffs as they grow from quite small to massive in a space of about ten miles. I'd be surprised if it didn't meet general notability guidelines. Here are a few links which would help you. The third one is about road construction on Palisade Avenue in 1916. Good luck with it. BusterD (talk) 15:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Liberty Island
I do not understand why you keep wanting to insert inaccurate information about the location of Liberty Island in the articles on the island and the Statue of Liberty. The island has never been a part of New Jersey, at any time in it's history.

In 1664 the boundary of the Colony of New York was set at the shore of the Hudson River (not in the middle of the river as is normal) this designation caused all of the islands in the river and bay to belong to the colony of New York, not New Jersey.

Later when the border between the two colonies was changed to be in the middle of the river it did not effect the jurisdiction of the islands that now found themselves on the other side of the line (namely Ellis and Liberty). While all of the submerged land underwater now belonged to New Jersey all of the dry land above water remained the territory of New York.

Ellis Island, at some point in it's history, was enlarged by drugging up dirt from the bottom of the river and adding it to the island to make it larger so it would be easer to build on. This caused the jurisdiction of the island to fall to BOTH New York and New Jersey but ONLY because it used dirt that belong to New Jersey to enlarge it.

Liberty Island, on the other hand, has never been enlarged and so has remained firmly in the jurisdiction of the City and State of New York.

Now because the Statue of Liberty National Monument contains both Ellis and Liberty Islands it spans two states, but Liberty Island itself is still, and has been for the past 346 years, part of New York.

I hope this clears up any confusion. 69.132.221.35 (talk) 05:53, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for editing sensibly on Liberty Island
I have a suggestion. BusterD (talk) 22:43, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The RFC is a very smart idea. While I tend to disagree with your pagespace positions, I totally agree that summoning several fresh sets of eyes is likely to help this situation, and hopefully defuse what is becoming an edit war. I just wish we'd built some consensus here on Liberty Island before we started disagreeing over the same information and sources on Statue of Liberty. I'm not so much interested in who is right (both of you defend sensible positions), but I hate to see back and forth edits in pagespace (makes us all look bad, IMHO). BusterD (talk) 22:40, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Liberty Island Rewrite

 * Below is something addressed to my user page. I don't comfortable with people commenting on the content of my sandbox, which I (obviously mistakenly) felt was somewhat private or at least respected as such. In any case it certainly is seems inappropriate to coach me on my unpublished drafts without being invited to do so, especially by someone who doesn't have the courtesy or courage to set up his/her own user page. If and when I do bring the info to the article, its discussion page would seem a better place to express concerns about what's written. Is there some policy regarding this??? Thanks for your helpDjflem (talk) 20:56, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed that you've begun work on a complete overhaul of the Liberty Island article and I will admit that it's looking really good so far. I only have one suggestion on the wording in the "Geography and Access" section.

Where you have a sentence that reads, "Property of the federal government, the island is located in Jersey City, New Jersey, its built portions and docks falling under the jurisdiction of the City of New York." I would think it would be better to say, "Property of the federal government, the island and it's docks are part of the City of New York despite being located within the state of New Jersey."

It seems more accurate to me as Liberty Island isn't actually part of Jersey City but is part of New York City. The rest of what you're working on looks awesome though, I never even knew it used to have oyster beds! Cheers! 69.132.221.35 (talk) 06:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, a user page/sandbox, like everything else on Wikipedia, is publicly accessible and visible to everyone online and since BusterD had suggested we try to work together on the Liberty Island article I thought I’d try to help out on the wording some. I’d never dare edit someone else's sandbox myself...that's why I sent my suggestion via your talk page.


 * I didn't mean to offend you, that was never my goal or intention and I deeply apologize if I did so. I was only trying to help.


 * In fact what I was mostly trying to say was how much I liked what you had done with the article so far, such as including information (like the bit about the oyster beds) that I had never even heard of before.


 * By the way, I do have a user name, OptimumPx, I just prefer not to use it. I use it 90% of the time only on articles that are protected or for uploading images like the image I put together for the Statue of Liberty National Monument article. The problem is that the computer I use is also used by other people so I can't leave anything logged in and I don't like logging in all the time to edit when there's no real reason or incentive to do so. 69.132.221.35 (talk) 03:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

 * Thank you for letting us know about those IPs you were using. I strongly encourage you in the future to stick to using your Djflem account whenever you can, as editing while logged out does give the impression that you are causing deception and abuse via multiple accounts. Thank you, –MuZemike 17:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Prov of NJ
Hello, Djflem. I like the changes you made to Province of New Jersey. I noticed, though, that there is an orphan " " in the print copy of the 2nd paragraph of the "Propriatary government" section. It and the orphan clause that follows probably cropped up in the cutting and pasting. Thanks for the changes. Eagle4000 (talk) 14:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Beautiful town. Any other Union City/North bergen/Weehawken stuff that you're aware of (that I'm not) it would be my pleasure to take more. Theornamentalist (talk) 21:14, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Latino Presence in Hudson County, New Jersey
You did not cite any reasons when you created Articles for deletion/Latino Presence in Hudson County, New Jersey. Please edit Articles for deletion/Latino Presence in Hudson County, New Jersey to indicate why you think the article should be deleted. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Ramapough Lenape Nation
Hello Djflem! I like all the changes you made to the article. It flows much better this way. How do you feel on the proposed suggestion Duff made about renaming the article? Ramapoughnative (talk) 23:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Hudson County
Hey Djflem, Are you interested in starting a group where we can coordinate and discuss ways to improve articles for Hudson county? Theornamentalist (talk) 19:38, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've seen your name in virtually all Hudson County articles I've come across. So far, I've invited you, Nightscream and Rhvanwinkle; if you know any other editors who would be interested that would be great to contact them. As far as a vision, ha... not really. I've just seen some amazing editors and contributors and I thought it could be neat to try and come up with a game plan. Like, you seem to have an affinity for researching a lot of streets and early history, which I absolutely love to read about. This whole area has some of the most beautiful architecture and interesting history in it. I think that if we worked together we could capture a lot more and create an impressive amount of well organized articles, I even imagine (for those in the area) meeting up to work on subjects; like working on some articles in Jersey City by researching in libraries (it seems like there may be a lot of information that isn't available on the web that may so be in libraries), photographing, etc. But overall, no, no particular vision; just people who love the area for various reasons and want to contribute by working together.
 * Thank you, I took that picture after about 5 or 6 others from different positions and at the time I didn't feel like any of them would come out good, because I couldn't see a good vantage point for a photograph; luckily that one actually captured all 4 levels, and of course, a cyclist. I can't tell you how many times the roads will clear and I'll snap the shot, only to find that at that exact moment someone just happened to be riding by. Theornamentalist (talk) 21:10, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me know about that, I was thinking about making it a Wikiproject taskforce, it seems like it may be the best suited way of approaching this, although I was hoping to be within Wikiproject New Jersey, but somehow separate. Of course this means that in order to prove this is large enough in scope and interest, we need signatures, so any users we can get would be much appreciated.
 * As far as you and Nightscream, it's a shame, you two were the most obvious choices for me because you both have contributed the most valuable content for the area that I've seen. - Theornamentalist (talk) 20:56, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In the link you provided for Reiner and Sons in Shippen Street, I didn't see any mention of the location, just that it was in Weehawken. I would like to take a picture of the building, where did you find where it was? I found this which says it was about a block away from the hairpins found here  which points to the intersection, so I'm not too sure - Theornamentalist (talk) 21:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That complex is now called Gregory Arms, a condo community, I will have to inspect the area to see if there are any older buildings. All of Gregory Arms is new, so I'm not sure if any of the original building(s) remain. Anyway, here's the page: Hudson County Task Force - Theornamentalist (talk) 22:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm working on that stuff right now and I think I kind of got it to work. I made a table on the task force page. WPI looks great and yes, I will get a picture soon; have to make a Jersey City trip. Are you from the area?
 * I'm still trying to get toolserver assessments for the table and stuff, never have done this before so it may take some time, after that is done I guess we can start mass assessments. Do you think we should have a seperate importance parameter from Wikiproject NJ? I added it in for now. - Theornamentalist (talk) 02:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't mind asking, I noticed you removed an importance from one of the articles, how come? Theornamentalist (talk) 20:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree, we should wait until we have enough for a consensus. I'm having problems getting the toolserver to run and update in the matrix, but when you tag them, they do appear in that subsequent category, for example here it just doesnt show up yet in the matrix. I will figure it out soon. - Theornamentalist (talk) 01:29, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all the work you've been doing in the task force, I've been busy moving all this week and probably next and I haven't been on. Thanks for adding to and cleaning up Shippen Street too, I believe it will be put in DYK within the next week - Theornamentalist (talk) 16:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Geography of New York-New Jersey Harbor Estuary rename
Please see Talk:Geography of New York-New Jersey Harbor Estuary -- RoySmith (talk) 12:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The Meetup
Hi. Would you consider attending the May 22 Meetup in Manhattan? It'd be a good idea if we could meet, get to know one another, hash out our differences, etc. I've also asked Theornamentalist if he would want to go. Nightscream (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood. I live in Union City, so if you want to meet up outside of the ones in NYC, let me know. Have a great summer. :-) Nightscream (talk) 03:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Latino Presence in HC
Hey DJFlem, I got sidetracked this last week with another article, but I was working on this, I was thinking about moving it to HOTH, let me know what you think, I think we can salvage the article, feel free to edit or take any of it until I get back to it if you are interested. - Theornamentalist (talk) 22:18, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Boulevard East
This is just preference, but I think that the infobox belongs on the top, as well as the name, addresses, etc. But take a look here and let me know what you think, btw, nice expansion, it was much needed. - Theornamentalist (talk) 21:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't love the lead photo, but it's better than leading with the skyline photo. Dppowell (talk) 13:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Liberty Water Taxi
Regarding your concern here, I notice the conflict seems to have died down as there have been no edits in a few days, and I'm not entirely sure what your primary concern is. If you feel that User:Titanosaurus is acting inappropriately, you might try Wikiquette alerts. If you are instead looking to find a consensus about the content of the article and are less concerned with Titanosaurus' actions, you might try Third opinion or follow the steps at Requests for comment for a wider audience. Cheers. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Feedback archived
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A while ago, you requested feedback in WP:FEED. Because it has been a while, and you'd received at least some response there, I have now archived the replies in Requests for feedback/Archive/27. Please do not edit that page though; if you require further feedback, add a new request on WP:FEED.

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HOTH
So it's going to be at least a couple weeks til I'm back to WP from the move, but now at work checking on my watchlist for the first time in about a week, seeing your editing on my page, going to your page and seeing the wonderful expanion you've made on it... just want to say thank you. It looks very good so far. - Theornamentalist (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * So I arbitrarily went through my sandboxes (Im wokring in one of them) and saw that you updated mine recently on HOTH, and more importantly, been having a conversation on its talk page that I was unaware of... ha anyway, I will go through it this week cos you've got a lot of information and I think that it will be a great article. SOrry to hear about that, but either way, its cool, let me know when youre back around town this summer, I'm in downtown UC (practically JC) and we could all get together sometime soon. Nightscream and I are trying to get together this week(end) and you're totally invited. Let me know - Theornamentalist (talk) 22:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Lenape
-Krasnoludek (talk) 14:01, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

List of enclaves and exclaves
Djflem, thanks for your time. I responded to your post on the talk page to this article. I'm sorry if I came across as harsh for reverting your edits. I hope you understand why I did, though. Please feel free to write me if you still disagree. --Lasunncty (talk) 07:50, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Ramapough page
I like the new format.. Excellent work! Thanks! Ramapoughnative (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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Union City
DJ, are you contending that the Cuban Day Parade that runs through Union City is the only one in New Jersey? It isn't, it's the North Hudson Cuban Day Parade. It runs not through just Union City, but West New York, Guttenberg and North Bergen as well. By saying that thousands come to UC to see the Cuban Day Parade of New Jersey, you're simultaneously giving that parade narrow specificity by implying it only runs through or originates in UC (it does neither, as it only ends in UC), and greater jurisdiction by indicating that it's the Cuban Day Parade for the whole state, when it's not.

If sourced material in the 21st century section established otherwise, then that would be different, since the Lead is a summary of the article, but that section makes no such mention of this. If it's in a ref, then that ref has to be added to that passage in the Lead, per WP:CS, since it's not further down in the article.

Also, are you going to continue the discussion on the city's colonial history? Nightscream (talk) 04:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I have no idea what you're talking about, as I made no edits regarding "population", either in "bad faith", or otherwise. The only edit that I made--which you reverted--was the one about the North Hudson Cuban Day Parade. I explained my rationale quite clearly in my edit summaries, and above, and your only response, once again, is to ignore my attempts as discussion, as if you can unilaterally effect contentious changes without discussion with others, much as you seem to be doing with the issue of the city's colonial history.


 * The fact remains that in addition to violating WP:AGF and WP:Civility with your inane accusation, you are violating the collaborative policies of the site (again), and now insisting on adding unsourced material.


 * I just finished in April the process of getting an editor banned for this type of behavior. But if you really think you can beat the system by telling others that they have to find references for the unsourced material you you insist on adding to articles, or that the article will form according to your whims by ignoring others, you are mistaken.


 * I've tried to be polite in collaborating with you, the hope that your past uncivil behavior and lack of respect for the rules on collaboration was perhaps an aberration. It's clear now that it's not. I will be alerting others to the discussion on both of these points, as well as alerting other administrators as to your policy violations. Given the last time you tried to skirt the rules by a combination of anonymous IP editing and ignoring my attempts to discuss things politely, I wouldn't count on it going well for you. Nightscream (talk) 06:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * If you feel that there is something in the latest version of the article or its edit history that another editor has neglected to notice, it is reasonable for you to point it out to him, which is why discussion is needed as part of collaboration. It makes no sense to he is not collaborating when you're the one who flatly states that he doesn't need to discuss things with him, as if you have unilateral authority of an article, when no one does. If you were sincere, you'd simply add the reference in question to the passage on the parade, or at the very least, tell me which one it is, since there are eleven in that 21st century section. Would it have been so hard to simply add it to the Lead? Or tell me which one it is? How can I read the reference when you won't tell me which one the eleven it is? WP:V, WP:CS, et al. do not require any editor to slog through eleven sources when a second editor insists that one of them supports a given passage; it is that second editor's responsibility to cite it. You don't get to accuse another of not collaborating when he's been trying to talk to you, and you've done nothing but stonewall.


 * As far as the two subjects, it is not a "confusion", when one observes that your unacceptable behavior has manifested itself in more than one area, as well as others in the past. Only in your attempt to distort your opponent's position does listing multiple examples of a given behavior that contributes to an emerging pattern somehow constitute a "confusion". In reality, these separate examples illustrate your recurring refusal to discuss editorial disputes with me, or follow the site's policies.


 * As for rude edit summaries, you'll be hard-pressed to convince anyone else that my edit summaries have been "rude", when you've failed to cite a single one and a look through the article's history shows no such thing. I cite actual diffs when pointing out others' behavior. You simply declare dogmatically that others are "rude" or making "bad faith" edits, without elaborating on such charges with evidence or reasoning that explains how you know that they were not acting in good faith. Me, I can actually point to your bad faith behavior, as with this message.


 * But if you've convinced yourself of the notion that I'm the one violating policy, let's see what the rest of the community thinks when we bring this to them. Doing so is not "politicking", but how disputes are resolved with transparency. Too bad you think consensus is a political issue. Nightscream (talk) 18:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

None of the sources on the parade mention Union City as a focal point for the parade, or a focal point for visitors who come to the area for it. Most of them, however, if they do mention UC, mention it as one of the cities through which it runs, along with West New York and North Bergen. A number of them mention, for example, that it starts at 79th Street. Are you under the impression that UC extends to 79th Street? It doesn't. That's North Bergen. The one point on which those sources do support you was on the name of the parade, which is inexplicable to me, since it's not the only one in NJ, as Newark has one too, but I'll let that go, unless I can find sources that can explain this one way or the other.

When you claim a source is unreliable, the burden is on you to explain why, not the other editor. So long as the source appears to be reliable (as if, for example, it's written by a city's historian and one of its commissioners), then you should cite some principle of site policy, good writing, or superior sources that explain this. The burden is not on the other editor to simply take the word of another unknown, anonymous editor at face value, because there's no reason for him to do so. How am I supposed to know that you're right when you claim it's unreliable, when you not only don't explain why or offer better sources, but claim that you aren't even required to discuss it? You think this goes well to transparency? The fact remains that you removed material, including other sources, that do not appear to have anything to do with the points you described, and I wanted to talk to you about this, and you refused (and continue to refuse) to do so, as if it's your place to dole out some type of assignment to other editors to research it on their own. It isn't. Even if an elaboration on your position lies in another article, why not explain it, so that we can meet in the middle and come to an understanding on the matter? I'm not going to go running off to another article not sure which of the many sources in it contradict mine, or take you at your word, just because you think I should jumping through flaming hoops when you snap your fingers.

You continue your blase violations of WP:AGF/WP:Civility/WP:NPA with this cryptic rant about supposed population edits on my part. Now, you claim that it was an edit by me on February 11 (as if previously, I was supposed to automatically know what you were talking about), yet curiously, you don't supply the diff for this edit (y'know, like I tend to do), and explain how you know that this edit was willful "deception", as opposed to say, a genuine mistake or oversight of some kind on my part. But any time you want to actually do so, instead of relying on flat, dogmatic accusations that you can't back up because you're too, feel free to do so. Nightscream (talk) 01:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * We're not talking about "drawing attention to mistakes", and you know it. I welcome people politely pointing out mistakes, as it says at the top of my user page. We're talking about accusing someone of "bad faith" edits, without explaining how that conclusion is arrived at to the exclusion of other explanations, accusing them of deception, and so forth. That has nothing to do with "drawing attention to mistakes", and is a violation of WP:AGF/WP:Civility/WP:NPA, which I notice you haven't refuted. Don't try this little bait-and-switch with me, because I'm not fooled by it. Pointing out that falsely accusing someone of bad faith or deception, without explaining how you have concluded this to the exclusion of other explanations, violates these policies is not an "offense", so your false cries of What exactly is uncivil or cryptic??? only show that you're stonewalling.


 * I have no idea what you're referring to regarding population, and I'm not going to go digging through the edit history in order to understand a point that you're trying to make. The fact remains that using diffs to explain your point to others is standard practice, yet you continue to refuse to provide one so that I can understand what you're talking about. If I made an edit in error, then that's all it was. Your self-righteous preference for pretending that you know for a fact that it was "deception" on my part, and refusal to provide a diff (which should be easy for you, since you obviously already looked through the edit history), illustrates your inability to resolve disputes peacefully.


 * I may have been in error about the name of the parade, but references are not needed for comments in edit summaries, as I never mentioned Newark in the article itself. But had I thought that the matter would've continued past that point when I first mentioned it, I would've provided one.


 * We're not talking about whether the parade refs have information "I like". We're talking about whether they have the information you've been claiming they have. In fact, they don't, as none of them say that people come to Union City for the parade. But if you can actually refute this point, then do so. Otherwise, you can admit that you were in error on this point, just as I can admit that I may have been wrong about the parade's name. Engaging in non sequitur by pretending that the issue is whether there is information "I like" is not a substitute for this.


 * As for collaboration, again, I've been trying to initiate discussions with you, asking for elaborations on your assertions, and you've been stonewalling, pretending that everyone else has to follow your dictatorial pronouncements, indicating that you don't need to talk or provide explanation or sources for your edits to the article, while hypocritically accusing me for not providing sources for things in edit summaries, and have leveled baseless accusations against me. The only one not collaborating, therefore, is you. The fact is, you cannot illustrate your accusation of intent on my part to the exclusion of mere error, even though I've asked you to do so. Your accusation is arbitrary, and you can't answer this point, so you ignore this flaw by merely stating the accusation over and over, in the hope that merely doing so will be a substitute for evidence. It isn't. If I made some edit regarding population in error, then that's all it was. If you can prove otherwise, instead of just chickening out of answering this question, then do so.


 * As for mistakes, I've admitted errors on my part lots of times, and did so already regarding the name of the parade, and the (possible, assuming you're correct) error about the population error. So your assertion that I cannot admit to my errors is another arbitrary and knowing lie on your part. None of this has to do with "politics", unless you're using some made-up definition of that word. Nightscream (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I've completed my research into the areas of my June 11 additions that you disputed. Some were mistakes on my part or Gerard Karabin's that you correctly spotted, some required clarification by me, and maybe one is an area where I could use clarification by you. I made a post on the matter here. When you get chance, could you look it over? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 06:50, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Etiquette Report
Thank you for your note. I received word from GiftigerWunsch as to its outcome as the most recent message on my Talk Page, before I saw yours. When I complete my own report to the Arbitration Committee regarding your behavior, I will leave one for you as well. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 19:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

C history of NJ
I made some comments on the talk page about the changes that occured over the past few months. As I do not have an oppertunity to actively participate in the WP:BOLD process, I'm informing you (as you are a main contributor) so you may consider my points.

&eta;oian  &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  06:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Regarding your WQA
In case you've stopped watching it, I saw your WQA, and I've shared some of my thoughts there. I don't want you to think that your complaint has been forcefully shut down, so you may want to take a look. Regards, Swarm Talk 09:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Newark Tract
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Hudson County Discussion
Hey Djflem, So I'm pretty much settled in the new apartment, would you like to meet up sometime soon? - Theornamentalist (talk) 21:16, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That templates great, for transportation. I love seeing things organized like that. - Theornamentalist (talk) 12:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Fort Nassau (North River)
I havent seen from you in awhile, wondering if you are still active. If so do you have any opinions on the renaming of the above article?Camelbinky (talk) 23:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Coordinate error request
—  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 14:31, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Redux: I'm confused about the request that you left at Talk:South Kearny, New Jersey. You, I think, added the coords to the article. Did you post the request and not place the coords in the landmass because you weren't sure where precisely they ought to go in the landmass? I'll watch here for your response. Best regards,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 16:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it's because I really haven't taken the time to figure out how to do it. (Not the the most computer literte type and long/lats are also confusing). A broader view (one showing the entire peninsula bewtween the two rivers) would be great). Really appreciate your work on keeping coords correct, and will do my best to get better at it.


 * Got it, now I understand. I've moved the coords into the landmass and set them to a higher scale. Thanks for the thanks and best regards,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 20:58, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Pulaski Skyway
Just a quick note. I'm trying to work on the concerns raised as best as I can, but Pennyspender's comments are going to know someone who's a bit more specialized with engineering and bridges. Otherwise, basically all of the concerns I had raised except one are pretty much as satisfied. I don't have a NYT subscription to answer my own question, and I'm still trying to find a better way to cite what is now Ref 12. Others in the WP:USRD project seem to be busy with other activities, but I'd like to see this not get delisted if it can be saved.  Imzadi  1979   →  08:06, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Statue of Liberty National Monument
Requests for feedback/2010 October 5 Hello. Thank you for your message.

I moved the article at the request of User:Station1. If you'd like, I can move the article back. On the other hand, since Station1 seems to have made some edits to the article, you might want to discuss the move with her/him before I move the article again. Let me know how you'd like to proceed. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit war warning
Requests for feedback/2010 October 5 Please refrain from repeatedly undoing other people's edits, as you are doing in Statue of Liberty. It appears you may be engaged in an edit war. The three-revert rule (3RR) prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, please discuss disputed changes on the talk page. Thank you.

You have now reverted twice in 20 minutes to include your preferred version (a) without responding to my argument in Talk and (b) without respecting the fact that multiple voices have now been raised in opposition to your desired edit. At this point your behavior constitutes edit warring. Not good.—DCGeist (talk) 22:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of National Docks Secondary
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DYK for National Docks Secondary
Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Sprucing up Park Performing Arts Center
Done. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Anderson Avenue (Hudson Palisades)


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DYK for Park Performing Arts Center
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Ellis Island
Hi. Yes, that source is potentially innacurate and I'd support removing it for now. It could be that this elevation is for the roof of its tallest building in the northeast of the island, as other areas are less than half its elevation. Do you have any sources closer to 0-1 metres? Thanks. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 02:28, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Jersey City Armory
Just want to drop you a line saying that I enjoyed reading Jersey City Armory, I ran track there when I was in high school. J04n(talk page) 15:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't know if you noticed but the hook you submitted at DYK is too long, an alternate was suggested. J04n(talk page) 17:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Jersey City Armory PR
I was glad to help with the National Docks Secondary article, but I'd prefer that you list Jersey City Armory formally at WP:PR. It may get reviewed by others if you do that, and if nobody picks it up, I will. In either case, you will be certain to get at least one review. Happy New Year! Finetooth (talk) 17:29, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Hudson County templates
DJ, it is inappropriate to edit while a discussion is in progress on the question of the material in question. Prior consensus already determined that that material does not belong in those articles; Unless and until that consensus changes, please respect that consensus, and do not add that material. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 16:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The conclusion of the August-October 2009 discussion on that matter, which I linked to in the current discussion, resulted in support for a version of the information in question that is summarized with respect to relevance to the city in question. If you read my posts during that current discussion, I'm sure you'll see it.


 * As for not editing during a consensus discussion, this is both common sense, and a widely accepted practice among editors in good standing. Reverting back and forth is edit warring, and is not permitted. Once a dispute is clear, participating editors are to discuss the matter until it is resolved. But if you need a specific policy/guidelines page mentioning it, it is here. Nightscream (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

The criteria in question were those I repeatedly mentioned in the 2009 dicussion, the current discussion, and in my edit summaries for those edits in question. If by some chance you're asking in regards to the Freeholder information, well, you could have simply said so. In any event, I see now that I removed that material in error, and have just restored it. But none of this constitutes "edit warring" on my part, unless you're employing a definition of edit warring that's different from the site's guidelines.

As for not initially responding to your first January 8 message, a look at my Talk Page's edit history and my contributions page should make that clear how/why that occurred. Another editor left a message for me after you did, while I was not editing, so when I returned to the site, his was the message I was directed to. Nightscream (talk) 21:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

January 2011
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. We always appreciate when users upload new images. However, it appears that one or more of the images you have recently uploaded or added to an article, specifically Newark and New York Railroad, may fail our non-free image policy. Most often, this involves editors uploading or using a copyrighted image of a living person. For other possible reasons, please read up on our Non-free image criteria. Please note that we take very seriously our criteria on non-free image uploads and users who repeatedly upload or misuse non-free images may be blocked from editing. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. ΔT The only constant 19:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jersey City Armory
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

One of yours
I was going through some of the pages from the WPNJ cleanup list, and came across List of Neighborhoods in Elizabeth, New Jersey which has an orphan tag on it. There is nothing in that article that isn't already in the Elizabeth, New Jersey article. Any objections to changing it into a redirect to the Districts and neighborhoods section of the main article?  Jim Miller  See me 03:33, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds OK to me. I'll go ahead and change it.  Jim Miller  See me 13:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Albanian and Serbian wikipedians cooperation board
Will you please tell me what do you think about this: Albanian and Serbian wikipedians cooperation board?

I created this pages, but I am not sure if I should promote them on WikiProjectAlbania and WikiProjektSerbia pages?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 00:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply and advice which I gladly accept.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of fixed crossings of the North River (Hudson River)


The article List of fixed crossings of the North River (Hudson River) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Redundant to top part of List of fixed crossings of the Hudson River.

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Template:New Netherland
Hey Dj,

I tightened up the NN template; I thought it was too tall. If you don't like it, I wouldn't mind if you reverted it. - Theornamentalist (talk) 22:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Gateway Project
Yo! Done. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 14:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

http://lautenberg.senate.gov/assets/Gateway.pdf
Do you mean the first map? The others look like they were made using Google Maps, and as far as it being government, I don't know either. Apparently Amtrak is gov-owned, but I did have hesitation uploading. it is, just check the licensing and stuff again please. - Theornamentalist (talk) 14:42, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That really looks like it's been lifted from Google Maps... I don't know if we can use it. - Theornamentalist (talk) 22:57, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK? Gateway Project
Hello! Your submission of Gateway Project at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. The article suggests that the TIGER funding covers two parts of the project, but I can only find mention of the Portal Bridge. Where is the other part of the project in the citation? Geof Sheppard (talk) 08:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking the time to work on the DYK. I have added second citation to article which supports statement in hook and mentioned at nomination page. Hope that is acceptable. I have a question, if you don't mind, to which you may know the answer. The map image: Project Map from Gateway Project appears to be a Google-made map, used in official Gateway Project announcement website (represented as Amtrak w/ senate.gov url), which then it appears have been downloaded to Flckr. What do you think are the rules regarding its use? Thanks for your help Djflem (talk) 22:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I've had a look at the origianl image and can't see any copyright notice. It does appear to be the sort of thing you can generate in Google, but if it is then they've cropped off the copyright and source markings! I seem to remember that copyright restricitons on US government documents (I presume that includes Amtrack) are different from ordinary publications, but my copyright knowledge is based in UK practice. I guess the best place to look - and ask questions - is at WP:Copyright FAQ. Geof Sheppard (talk) 14:22, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gateway Project
Hello! Your submission of Gateway Project at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 4meter4 (talk) 17:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gateway Project
Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of African Globe Theater Works for deletion
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Thanks
Tuscumbia ( talk ) 15:14, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

TUSC token c0d9fa94969f7a31aea16466c17f1435
c0d9fa94969f7a31aea16466c17f143564055 I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

DYK for John T. Cunningham
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

List of the oldest buildings in New Jersey
I reverted your dubious tag there - please see talk. I've taken a lot of NRHP photos in South Jersey (e.g. almost all the sites in Cape May County) so I do have a small bit of expertise here. Coming to your talk page, I see you've got a great deal of expertise in (mostly northern) New Jersey. Do please let me know if we can cooperate in any NJ history articles. All the best, Smallbones (talk) 16:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I avoid driving in NYC or northern NJ and am mostly interested in taking photos, but I do plan a trip to Red Bank in late summer, and maybe a train trip to Newark. One of my frustrations with NJ  NRHP sites is that the nomination forms aren't readily available - my "research" in writing articles is usually just summarizing them and other material readily available on the internet.  If you're interested in anything in Atlantic City or south, I can certainly snap a photo and get an article up to Start level (or maybe just a "good stub.")  Smallbones (talk) 02:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Categories
Please be certain that the categories you add to articles are supported by the text of the article itself. For instance, you added "Films shot in New Jersey" to the article Safe Passage (film), but there is no mention of New Jersey as a shooting location in the article. Wikipedia requires that all categories be supportable by the article text, and that all disputable facts in the article be supported by citations from reliable sources. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

With regard to your message about and subsequent edits at Safe Passage (film), would draw your attention to Identifying reliable sources. Djflem (talk) 03:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)