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An Invitation
Hi Djiann,

Here's an invitation to visit WikiProject Japan. There, you can meet other Wikipedians working on articles related to Japan. You'll find lists of new articles, projects, and resources such as


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Hope to see you there!

Best regards,

Fg2 01:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the invite.... I've been mostly avoiding the "projects" mainly because I'm afraid it'll become 病みつき :-) I do, however, try to follow guidelines where I find them. Djiann 05:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Ghosts in the machine
You did - we are just messing with you mind. Some of the Aikido biographies are a little sparse. It would be great if you could expand on a few that were your teachers both in Japan and elsewhere.Peter Rehse 06:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to my fixing of your typo in the Arikawa article that got "lost". It seems you "rewrote the history" to cover your tracks on that one? Clearly there are tricks to be learned here :-) Yes.... I will certainly contribute more when I have time and feel authoritative enough to do so.  Thanks. Djiann 07:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Doshus university
Have you considered getting in contact with Stanley Pranin, to make him correct his encyclopedia? I think that would be a good idea, really. If he is a sensible man (and I have no reason to believe otherwise) he'll appreciate it. // habj 20:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't thought of doing that, because the data in the Encyclopedia dates from about 1990, and I haven't noticed any updates on their web site version of it. I assumed from that that they had decided to leave the Encyclopedia information frozen in time rather than treating it as a living doc (perhaps you don't know that it was published as a book at that time, before the existence of the web, and of course the books will not get updated :-) You're right, though, that it might be worth dropping him a line about. Djiann 20:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

MA Userbox
Today, there was a merger of Category:Martial Artist Wikipedians into Category:Wikipedian martial artists. This resulted in a userbox being added to the category. This userbox is available to you. TonyTheTiger 20:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Striking Controversy
The revision was not so much the exclusion of striking, rather than the inclusion of the phrase supplemented by the application of non-contact strikes. I am not even sure that I was the one who included the term striking in the first place (might have been me) however the latter phrase is just wrong (what exactly is a non-contact strike). In my particular style of aikido what you may call irimi-nage we call atemi waza (whole body striking) and we don't normally used a closed fist but I definately have seen and felt them in Yoshinkan and Aikikai (especially down here in the Kansai area). Further down in the Aikido article there is a section on Atemi (which I did not write) which I believe reflects the situation correctly. There has been a concerted effort over time to make the Aikido article broadly representative not just style specific. I think there is a place for that in the respective articles for each of the major styles of Aikido. My edit was to return the situation to NPOV (in my opinion).Peter Rehse 00:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

On reflection, perhaps our difference of opinion has more to do with what the first paragraph is describing. I think that paragraph is about what aikido contains not about how it is trained. To me striking is the Enlish word for atemi; designating blows to the body, as opposed to twisting of joints, strangleholds, holding technique and throws. Atemi can be delivered by any part of the body to any part of the opponents body. They can be percussive or use 'soft' power (taken from the Atemi page). The 'soft' power strikes definately make contact (otherwise you have the no-contact throws) whereas, in most training, the 'percussive' strikes do not. Not because they would not in an actual situation but because we choose not to train that way. Wayne to keep the peace removed the word 'striking' from the text - I have no problem with that.Peter Rehse 09:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Peter... sorry it took me so long to respond to this. Part of the reason is that it seemed like it would become an extended discussion that would take a lot of mental energy and time, and I wasn't really up for that :-) Suffice it to say that I don't have any significant disagreement with anything you've written here.  I would be in favor of returning the word "striking" (or atemi) to the opening paragraph, however I had a problem with it being the first thing on a list of "what aikido contains".  The ignorant reader would naturally take from this that aikido must be a lot like karate, I believe.  I would like to see it appear further down the list, after the other obvious elements, and perhaps avoiding the word "striking" in favor of "atemi" and having a link to that page might be good (and perhaps head off further controversy :-)  I invite you to make the appropriate changes. On a practical wikipedia level, I don't know if you're watching this page and will note that I answered you... if I don't get a response here within a couple days I'll "ping" you on your own talk page.  It is still a mystery to me how two people have a conversation in this medium if they each have their own talk page, and one doesn't necessarily want to be always watching lots of other people's "private" pages. Djiann 01:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Aikido Photos
Jun - the owner of aikiweb has privately said that if there are any pictures in the aikiweb gallery that the Aikido article could use I should let him know. I think we are looking for action shots that clearly show technique and look good at the same time. Could you take a look and let ME know of any that strike your fancy and then I will give him a list early next week.

I usually monitor the page where I left a message for a few days at least so you can respond either place but there is always e-mail given in the left column when you go to my user page.

Also with respect to the ka suffix and for point of interest here in Japan you start getting called Judoka around 4th dan. Although I don't know of any hard fast rules for Aikido you would get strange looks if you called yourself one to early in the game. Peter Goldsbury (President of the International Aikido Federation (Aikikai) and I talked about this at one point. At the time he said that I would be considered one even though I was only Nidan at the time.  Actually earning some cash while running a dojo was a major consideration but my point again is there doesn't seem like any hard and fast rules.  Still think the point is worth including in the article but I'll stay out of the debate on the aikido page.  Peter Rehse 01:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Aikido
Hi I just resubmitted the Aikido article for Featured article status. Hopefully we can get over the hump this time.Peter Rehse 09:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

propose 弓術, 笠懸 and 犬追物 to be translate
Hello, I'm Japanese Wikipedian 福太郎(Fukutaro).

This time, I propose translated 弓術 (Kyujutsu), 笠懸 (Kasagake) and 犬追物 (Inuoumono) into English to Japanese speaker and I wish Budo-ka (understands Budo mind person). So I tried proposee translat myself, but not understood "how to". I'll grad if your cooperation. If you have some opinions, advice, complaints, give me comments to my talk or here without reserve. You'll may be in a bad for my words, I'm sory to poor English.
 * Kyujutsu is Historic Japanese Archery, and history of Japanese traditional Budo Kyudo. Japanese Archery: Kyudo in present age is similar to Kyujutsu, however diferent than Kyujutsu.
 * Yabusame, Kasagake and Inuoumono is Japanese traditional horseback archery. Yabusame and Inuoumono and Kasagake were generic named to "Kisya-Mitsumono".
 * Yabusame is ceremony, Inuoumono is dog shooting, Kasagke is game. But that horseback archery is almost traditional ceremony. The diferences is history, rules, styles....

Djiannさま、初めまして. 日本のWikipedian、福太郎 (Fukutaro)と申します.

今回は日本語版弓術 (Kyujutsu)、笠懸 (Kasagake)、犬追物 (Inuoumono)の英語訳をお願いしたく参りました. 一度自分でproposee translatを出そうとしたのですが、やり方がいまいち解らず断念、日本語が出来、なおかつ武士道精神を理解する武道家のWikipedianを探してやってきました. 不躾 (bad manners) 、拙い英語に気分を害されたかも知れませんが、英語に不慣れなため何とぞご容赦ください. ご意見、アドバイス、苦情等ありましたら遠慮なくお申し付け下さい. ご協力頂ければ幸いです. --福太郎(Fukutaro)/talk 09:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * KyujutsuはKyudoの歴史そのものですが、しかし歴史上のKyujutsuと現在のKyudoとは違いが多く、日本語wikiでは独立記事にしてあります.
 * 流鏑馬 (Yabusame)、笠懸 (kasagake)、犬追物 (Inuoumono)は日本の伝統的な騎射 (horseback archery) ですが、Kamakura periodにはこれらを総称して『騎射三物 (Kisya-mitsumono)』と呼ばれていました. それぞれに歴史、起源、作法(rule)、その他諸々(etc...)特徴があります.
 * Yabusameは儀式を重んじ格式が高く、Kasagakeは遊戯的(a game)、競技的(a match)性格が強く、Inuoumonoは犬を射る競技ですが、どれも儀式として行われています（現在はInuoumonoのみ行われておりません）.

Havertown, Pennsylvania
Responded to your comment on the article talk page. - CobaltBlueTony 17:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hiroshi Ikeda
The WP:MOS-JP recommends usage of the template for Japanese terms, but if you'll jump a little further down the MOS page, you'll notice that it does not recommend if for names of people. Sorry for the confusion. Bradford44 19:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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