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Acer rubrum
You're definitely right on this one. The source I have (Campbell) is a survey of the bluegrass savanna uplands, which is the dominate ecosystem in most of the region. I forgot that the gorge section (which we call the Palisades) is also part of the Inner Bluegrass. Thanks for doing such great work on this page by they way, and thanks for sharing that insightful pdf file.Masebrock (talk) 03:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Lamium purpureum
I restored the gallery because the photo you used to replace the one originally in the taxobox has a very narrow depth (of focus) and did not provide the reader with a proper sense of scale. The single photo makes the specimen appear larger than it really is. At least one image in the gallery was of better quality (depth of focus, crisp) and most of them gave a better perspective relating to the size and environs of the plant. ++Arx Fortis (talk) 13:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and restored two images from the gallery per the reasons above. I used the tag to push it below the taxobox and added/adjusted captions.  (I was not aware that the gallery was overlaying the taxobox at lower resolutions.  I use 1280 x 960 screen resolution, so it looked fine to me.)  Thanks ++Arx Fortis (talk) 20:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Main page nomination for Manzanar
With the 39th Annual Manzanar Pilgrimage coming up on April 26, I have nominated Manzanar to be on Wikipedia's main page on that date. Please add your support for that at Today's featured article requests -- Gmatsuda (talk)


 * The nomination was removed intially because there can only be five nominations on that page, but it's back, so if you are so incllined, please offer your support. Thanks! -- Gmatsuda (talk) 21:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Trees, plants, whatever
I think I've never met so many people who are unwilling to even consider another person's voice in any "discussion," and I no longer care about it, but I do thank you for taking the time to alert me about the issue. --Blechnic (talk) 00:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I accept your graciously offered apology. Blechnic (talk) 00:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Quebec plants
Think you could try to give me a heads up when you create articles for Eastern Canada plants? I have quite the bit of material I can add to Trillium grandiflorum (e.g. the fact it is the provincial flower of Ontario, and it's protected in Quebec and some states). Circeus (talk) 16:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm keeping off maintenance and other "heavy" duties I used to hang around (FLC, FAC etc.) and trying to concentrate on content creation. Right now I'm working on a cluster of articles about a Lévis area family, but I have a book with some good material on Trillium ecology (the book I added to the article, it's got a good bibliography, though there could be more connections between the text and the references >___>). Right now I'm into RL administrivia (I hate red tape, HATE HATE HATE), but I'll come back to T. grandiflorum and add stuff soon enough. Circeus (talk) 17:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I went across to get the Chase & Chase book. It's fairly good, but one has to take into account that it is written from the perspective of people who want to grow and spread the growth of Trilliums, and they quite often complain about "zealot conservancy", but they do bring together a lot of data on germination, for example: apparently, although production from seed is still fairly difficult, especially for commercial purposes (they aknowledge almost all sold trilliums are wild-collected), growth under horticultural conditions is much faster. Circeus (talk) 23:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, I fully intend to add a cultivation/conservation/relationship with humans/whatever works best section. But first, a description section! Circeus (talk) 23:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Already working on it! Circeus (talk) 00:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I was reluctant to use "bract" because bracts (which we define as "specialised or modified leaves", so the term is not entirely inappropriate) are typically, in a way, "leaves that don't readily looks like them", but here they are leaves for all practical purposes, including identification. Both Lamoureux and Case refer to them as leaves without ever mentioning "actually, they are bracts" (which is the usual for Lamoureux). Oh wait, Case explains the details of it (as far as I can tell, they are "bracts" only because they attach to the base of the pedicel instead of the stem). Circeus (talk) 01:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * As a random note, if we are going to work on other Trillium articles in the near future, I'll leave finding recent work on the philogeny of the genus to you. I'm not too interested in traveling to the campus more than necessary, and I'm the first to admit I'm not too good at database searching (Besides my new college doesn't subscribe to JSTOR, drats). I'll be happy to copy all the pertinents refs from Case & Case, though. On the other hand, as far as I can tell from the FNA treatment, the situation is still muddy anyway. Circeus (talk) 05:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I had no idea, really (though it often seems most families/genera I look in for articles to write are a taxonomic mess anyway XD), so I guess I'll stand by what I wrote in the article. In the book, they list 4 or 5 different arrangements (none of which actually used specific ranks AFAICT) for subg. Trillium, but do not clearly endorse any subgeneric arrangement beyond Phyllantherum's monophyly. If they haven't really changed their outlook in FNA, then I guess my summary is fairly accurate. Circeus (talk) 05:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

It passed? *checks* Indeed! And far more easily than nominations I made on my own, at that, which I assume is a result of your involvement. I'd be most interested in future collaboration, assuming I can locate useful material, that is. I looked into the Reid's paradox suggestion and it does sound like an interesting topic for an article, though I'm not sure how competent I,d be at summarizing it. I know summarizing and combining sources is my weakest area when writing on WP. I did find a very nice summary of the issue in the debates of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry, though. Circeus (talk) 22:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Alternatviely, if you're interested, I think I could dig up some good material on Vaccinium stamineum pretty easily. Circeus (talk) 04:36, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

GA review of the raccoon
Wow, thanks so much for your comments and edits to the raccoon. I have nominated it as GA mainly to finally get some useful feedback to further improve the article, not to glue some award on the discussion page after it. (Just don't expect me to agree with every single edit or comment. ;-)) --Novil Ariandis (talk) 22:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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copyvio at Solanum muricatum
I note that this has copyvio from at least - eg "more than 400 hectares are planted in the Longotoma Valley with an increasing proportion of the harvest being exported." (your edit) and, eg "The study of the molecular variation of the pepino is of interest for several reasons...." not your edit but the editor isn't around. Any chance you could help clean it up? I'm on a crashing laptop with a slow connection right now. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:38, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Commelina sphaerorrhizoma
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DYK for Cartonema
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List of Commelina species
I just noticed that actually you only got up to epithets beginning "j" in this list. Did you just give up or was there some other problem? Peter coxhead (talk) 10:18, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

There are still a few leftover refs I couldn't check or get the full data for. In some case the checklist may have the wrong refs as when I could look at the referred page, there was no trace of anything that could be considered a prologue. If you do a search for, you'll find the references in question. Circéus (talk) 00:09, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Yongjia Xuanjue
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Commelinaceae stuff
I've been working in my Sandbox for a new version of List of Commelinaceae genera, based off the fungi lists. It's using the Faden and Hunt infrafamilial system and I wanted your opinion on that. I know it's not entirely accurate, but most papers I've seen since have referred to it as "mostly accurate", and besides until actual updates are published, it's all we have. I figured if we were going to use the subfamilies, we might as well use the whole thing... Circéus (talk) 05:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it looks great. Yes, the Faden and Hunt system is the most up to date classification published, and it remains to be seen how the classification will hold up once more genetic data is available. It makes sense to use it, and if it does change, it probably won't be major. My only suggestion for the list would be to maybe find a way to emphasize the tribes and subtribes so that it's clearer that certain genera are related to others. Perhaps bolding the subtribe? DJLayton4 (talk) 01:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I figured putting them in taxonomic order by default (instead of alphabetical) was a pretty good start. Otherwise I'm not sure what can be done to improve that. Circéus (talk) 01:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think not much can be done about it on second thought, except perhaps color coding tribes and subtribes, but I guess it's not really necessary. Some of the pictures also don't show up very well when restricted to a smaller size. At any rate, I think you should go ahead and make it live; it's way better than the current version!DJLayton4 (talk) 01:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Not putting it live until I'm done with the references. As to the images, the problem is to do with how plants show more poorly than fungi at smaller sizes (even I tried to account for the more vertical images). In the end I guess images in the table might not work here, and I'll probably move them to a strip to the side before it goes live. Circéus (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It's out there now. Circéus (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Shenhui
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Soto Zen
Guten Tag, Djlayton4. I like the articles and additions you write. :) Vriendelijke groet, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 06:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Five ranks
Hi Djlayton4. According to Michael Wenger's introduction to Shunryu Suzuki's commentary on the Sandokai, Tozan's Five Ranks "grew out of" the Sandokai. Do you know how to understand that in relation to "Song of the Precious Mirror Samadhi"? Vriendelijke groet, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 06:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey Josua. I honestly didn't know much about the five ranks. When I created the page for Song of the Precious Mirror Samadhi, I found that that page was redirecting to Five Ranks. On the Five Ranks page, it mentioned "a poem by Tung-shan (Dongshan Liangjie)", and the major poem he is known for is the Mirror Samadhi, so I added that link on the basis of the redirect. If it is in fact based on Shitou Xiqian's Sandokai, by all means go ahead and make those changes. Sorry about the confusion! DJLayton4 (talk) 15:45, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh no, it's not confusion! It triggered me, and I'm eager to get to know more about it. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 17:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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Dharma transmission
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Linji school
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I've written a page on the Linji school. I think you may like it; it relativises (that's spelled incorrectly, isn't it?) the story of this school. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 18:36, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Work is waiting
Okay Djlayton4, work is waiting! Greetings,  Joshua Jonathan   -  Let's talk!   06:22, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

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