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Yup. Forgot the tidles on last. Will view some of remainder.

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If you wish to discuss anything to me about this (draft) article but don't wish to say it on the talk page please say it here. Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:15, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

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 * As per my talk page this use of the anti vandal tool Huggle seems to have led to the mis-identification of an external link. I will admit that longer term I might prefer to change text around the source to avoid any CFORK, and may be s 'see' instead and actually is quite good.   redirect page might be alternative.  But slowly slowly.

Car user and Daily Mail only reader?
It seems that you get your point of view, which is against bicycle transport and railways from certain articles from the Daily Mail. It is time to get out more often instead getting you world view from sitting in cars and reading the Daily Mail.


 * I am concerned when disproportionate cycling and railway related content is disruptively added to articles that are fundamentally about something else. And I try to maintain a neutral point of view.  For the record I drive a car but am noted for using buses, walking, rail and generally avoiding taxi's when reasonably and pragmatically possible.  I don't use a bicycle since being hit and injured by a car many years ago; though as a driver and more particularly as a pedestrian I find some cyclist behaviour, consideration and safety awareness appalling.  ( I can most certainly appreciate how cyclists can feel badly about some motorists ).  I do actually take an interest in railways.


 * I am of the opinion there is room in the transport section of settlements for mention of notable national cycle routes and a link to any noted cycle network for the settlement. Images of bicycle racks are most unlikely to be one of the top 20 images for a settlement.  Images of rail infrastructure can sometimes qualify ... but need to of iconic nature or of noted architecture in their own right ... and certainly should not focus on a train/locomotive (there are too many bad examples already in my opinion).


 * Wikivoyage has room for mention of cycle routes and networks in getting in and getting around. Some examples include Bracklesham Bay, Selsey and Petersfield.  They give some idea to the kind of cycling entries acceptable.  I've contributed significantly to the mentioned articles so my opinion there is not necessarily neutral.  You might find Reading (England) at interesting example, though I'm not judging if the bicycle entry was little over the top; you certainly wouldn't want to go info more detail than this.

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Puffed out.
After a content sprint round Newtownforbes, Paddington and steaming down the Ballaghderreen branch line with several stops on the way I will now be taking a break and to watch others correct the old grammar and other faux pas from the sprint. Thankyou for those who have endured and are enduring my mistakes. Djm-leighpark (talk)

Speedy deletion nomination of Inchicore railway works
Hello Djm-leighpark,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Inchicore railway works for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source, probably infringing copyright.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Thankyou. I was not concentrating and made a mistake and copied from another Wikipedia article with attribution, probally focusing more on finding a suitable citation. I should have referred to WP:REUSE. There is also a question of an external source using this text which makes the issue even more serious. Overall I am therefore agreeing with Speedy Article Deletion.Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Cymraeg iaith yn Llundain?
Dear Djm-leighpark,

Wondering why the Welsh language is not mentioned in London? Given the fact that there is a presence in London of Welsh Churches and Societies. Then there could be a page all about the Welsh in London, perhaps you could write it, please.

IkbenFrank.

Hi IkbenFrank. Really a question for one of the projects on Talk:Welsh language or for a request on Welsh Wikipedians' notice board. I'm currently spending far too much time on Wikipedia and need to sort Loughrea branch line and children .... let alone some other things. I think a list of associations/places where Welsh is spoken outside of Wales & Y Wladfa would be useful and would merit a 'list of ...' page. The Welsh language article could have such a section but at a quick glance I couldn't see anyplace that would fit your content .... at least not without careful rework at I didn't want to touch it myself. Adding this as a section to Talk:Welsh language for discussion would be a possiblility.Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:07, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Selsey
Thankyou to all who are helping in the Selsey weatherbox dispute discussion. I'm not going round individuals etc but merely offering a general thanks to all partipants from whichever viewpoint for participating. For information at this point I do not intend further to the discussion myself (unless I have a eureka brainwave) until an assistant appears at the DNR noticeboard. Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:54, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Strangely as a result of this dispute I createed the page Centre for Environmental Data Analysis. I visited Selsey leaving behind the memory card for my camera but was able to upload to Wikimedia commons a picture of the bill house from my dog. I also determined the new supermarket at Selsey does not have its own cafe but there is one a fear might cost a lot in its car park. My mother has since defined Selsey as 'boring', I am unsure where whether this is fair. I (rightfully) got slapped for a failed dog dab update (but later recovered to wikitionary). I was dragged to defend a deprod and then to the speedy deletion noticeboard to defend the Lightpath redirct/dab to the Nelson Street Cycleway in New Zealand. (I would have loved to have quoted 'I must insist on this, sir. I assure you, that in this matter, argument is fruitless. The responsibility is mine. I must have it, sit. I shall not give way.' from P&P ch. 52 but i think its in the screenplay not the book). Others have also rallied to the defence and I am certain we shall have dab. I also created Lightpath (optical network) page and updated the throttling definition on wikitionary. I have fought the IAbot and engaged with Iggy the Swan and contemplated the twitcher hide at Pagham Harbour. And updated content on about 5 to 10 other pages. All coming from this Selsey thing. I must remember ''The dataset is not original research. It is a primary source, the use of which to draw conclusions in the article may be original research.''(User:Charlesdrakew) ... it's sort of profoundly useful. Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:58, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

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"undo edits related to 92.251.178.119" - It looked like what you said here is that you might have reverted 92.251.178.119's edits when that was related to 175.158.209.172. Thankfully the 92.251.178.119 message was kept and you've correctly removed the massive wall of latin text that I sometimes get on random days. Iggy (Swan) 22:47, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Whoops! So sorry ... trying to be nice and helpful and ending up causing confusion! You'll be off my watch page shortly anyway.

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Love Productions
I've moved Love Productions to Draft:Love Productions where you can take your time working on it. Creating an article for a company in mainspace, with almost no content, and referenced only by the company's own website is begging to be deleted under A7 & G11 as an advert for a non-notable business. Please take note of the need for reliable, verifiable, independent sources as you develop the article. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 11:46, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I beleive you are right. Time is an issue. And today has non WP incidents. Darft mayhave been a been option ... i was avoiding a sandbox to save time but got short. Ah well. Im not on mybest device now either. Lets get baking and the sun up then.Djm-leighpark (talk) 13:21, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

HELP ME
Requesting to ensure an independent active mentor is able to advise User:Mattaf1990 should he need it. Because of my work on The Biggest Little Railway in the World I unfortunately feel I am unable to do that without compromising indepenence. Thanks. Djm-leighpark (talk) 12:58, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * , mentorship doesn't work that way. Voluntary mentorship has to be requested by the potential mentee and involuntary mentorship is only imposed as a result of dispute resolution processes. Involuntary mentorship, by the by, almost never works.  You may suggest to  that they seek mentorship themselves at the Adopt-a-user page, but that's about it.  I hope this helps.  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:12, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Bot smack: Methinks this be bit historic and already fixed.Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:04, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

TSS Canterbury
Entirely in agreement with the change to the Southern Railway ships template. If the bell says "T.S.S. Canterbury" it can't be argued with. You might find the pages linked from here useful in expanding the article. They will give measurements, engine details, code letters (different from 1934 onwards), port of registry etc etc. Mjroots (talk) 12:22, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

March 2018
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Maximo DRV
Regarding the Maximo DRV, may make a suggestion? You are certainly allowed to make as many comments as you like, but it's generally more effective to state your case, then let others have their say. You can trust that whoever closes the discussion will read everything. The more succinctly people make their points, the easier it will be for that person. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:33, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Appreciate the comment. I do gabble on and cause chaos at times.  Will attempt to avoid the maximo defence.  Was a bit worried about the trout as that's a new one on me.  I'm doing to cites on MGWR Class F's at the moment.  To share trick for the references (and you may well know it) use -site:XXX.YYY to help filter things out things probably too closely related to the thing your interested in.Djm-leighpark (talk) 14:54, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Easter egg ready for hatching


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"vendor" vs "analyst"
Hi, Although Michael Dexter signs the cited post as "Independent analyst", he's an employee of IXsystems, the subhead of the post calls him "our analyst", and a cursory search doesn't turn up anything he's written that's not associated with IXsystems. (It may also be notable that IXystems sells ZFS-based products.)

Given that, it seemed more appropriate to attribute the quote to a vendor than an analyst -- the latter seems to my ear to more strongly imply impartiality. Regards, NapoliRoma (talk) 18:59, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This statement and quote and things behind it are getting very WP:OPINION and likely fail WP:RS and WP:NEUTRAL could be questionable. For a statement in the lede that may be debatable that is not really good.  iX systems are saying .. to quote Our Senior Analyst’s take on this week’s Btrfs news from Red Hat  ... If you wish to revert to Vendor ... I am currently of the opinion I will not edit that out.  If Better sources is removed I would likely backout the statement and replace with a simple COW statement backed by a reliable source ... if I have time or inclination.  Further talk should probably be on the article talk page for a wider consensus.  AFIAK SLES, Oracle and maybe Debian/Ubuntu are taking a more positive on btrfs than Red Hat ... While I'd regards zfs as far more mature than BTRFS it could be BTRFS may wither or succeed or a new cow may come along ...    Thanks.Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

It was really unintended
Yes, the edit on Jasmine's AfD it was really unintended. After I published the edit I saw the closure. Sorry about that and thanks for the heads up! Robertgombos (talk) 01:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No Problem. There was 2 minutes in it.  In view of the effort you put in and the attempt to follow procedure and set of unfortunate co-incidences your article has had to go through I am pleased for you in that sense that it has been retained.  As a spin off TLE got their article moved from draft to main ... which was humorous to me being accused of being A Daily Mail reader ... though luckily I was unbeknowing of a couple of things at the time of my edits.Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Pyrrho (RDBMS)


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 * My understanding and reading of WP:G11 and WP:Field_guide_to_proper_speedy_deletion this should not have been speedied. It is now deleted.  Meanwhile other pages with perhaps dodgy self cites to pages requesting donations are simply rated ... hmmm ... Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:40, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

MV Oliver Cromwell (1922)
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I have now finished a copy of your draft, see here MV Oliver Cromwell (1922), I hope this is okay and what I have found. D Eaketts (talk) 10:33, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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Pencak Silat You had reported
Hello, I just want to let you know that the Wikipedia Article itself has the mentioned in that article as- " The oldest styles of penca were based on animals and movements of farming or tending the fields. IPSI recognises Cimacan (tiger style), Ciular (snake style), and Pamonyet (monkey style) as among the oldest existing pencak silat." (Under SUNDA point this is written clearly.) Hence, I wanted to know why is it reported as Vandalism? How does that offend if it is already included in Wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saee Patil (talk • contribs) 18:22, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@ : You are advised and suggested to get a neutral response at the Teahouse (link already on your talk page). I left a level 2 template warning Template:uw-unsourced2 on your talk page for unsourced content and commented you appear to be causing disruption to a number of articles. I also commented in my opinion the level 3 vandalism warning by the Cluebot NG was a little too harsh (the revert was ok though). In terms of your edit to the article lead (lede) there are were a number of issues. Fundamentally weight was given to a concept that was not sufficiently emphasised in the body of the article or by the source ... to indicate that further the animals such as tigers were mentioned in one location ... and creatures such as scorpions mentioned not at all. The content was inserted into a set of sentences covered by a source (which I subsequently recovered from the wayback machine) but were not mentioned in the source (There is some mention in an 'advert' of animals but the context is unclear). The punctuation and style were not perfect (Neither is mine and an army of people follow me about to sort me out) ... correctable but not helpful. I somewhat fell it may well be that the article in total does not mention with due weight how animals and other creatures are used to inspire moves ... but that needs to be sorted in the body of the article first. I would suggest you put forward any views you have on that on the article talk page or again ask a neutral at the Teahouse. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:12, 9 September 2018 (UTC)


 * @ : Thanks for the email but I am too busy to do tutoring ... and I would be a far from perfect coach ... though I have been known to drive the 488 bus. The Teahouse is the best place for advice ... you can also checkout Template:Help me.  Best regards and good luck. Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

GPULib
Hi,

I'm not sure what the normal method is for dealing with obsolete information. The reason for the request is that because the product has not existed for a while, the article had dead links to a nonexistent product web page and obsolete documentation pages. Since the article appears as a web search result, it was misleading people into believing GPULib is still for sale. However, from an information standpoint, the content, references, and citations are correct.

What I have done for now is to edit the article to remove the bad web page links and added a highlighted end-of-life statement with the highlighting expiring in one year. If there is some other recommended action, please let me know so I can communicate that information to Tech-X.

Thank you!

Kind regards, Reddoe (talk) 16:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Reddoe

I'm not on my best devices for doing edits etc. at the moment. But your acting in good faith. I have recovered a page and this seems to imply to me a fresh license may have to have been bought for GPULib each year (or it would stop working). unfortunately you haven't given a source for what appears to be the very good faith you have given. My memory seems to recall there is a template that will serve this situation, not that I can currently remember what exactly that is. I am probably likely to revert your very good faith edit, apply the template in question and then sort any dead links. While I would like to guide you through that I may find it tricky enough to myself however you will be able to to work through what I have done and you are welcome to improve and accompanying place on the template (It it has such an option). This may all happen in 20 minutes or in 2 days. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:41, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I've applied a Template:Update notice to the article and hopefully the text is acceptable. I hope to deal with links in a couple of days. thankyou. 17:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for the reply.

I think I see the confusion about licensing: The GPULib license was not an annual activation license. The year license was a license entitling the user to any GPULib upgrades issued within a year from purchase. GPULib was not an application, but a library. As a library, GPULib would not stop running based on a license period. Once the library files were installed, GPULib would continue to be available indefinitely to the CUDA and IDL software on that system.

Regarding FastSpring, from the former FastSpring GPULib description, it can be seen that GPULib supported specific versions of CUDA and IDL. After the GPULib developer left Tech-X, CUDA and IDL issued new versions of CUDA and IDL that were no longer supported by GPULib, and since not many people would be interested in buying a library to support downrev software, we removed the GPULib offering from the FastSpring store. Tech-X later closed the FastSpring Tech-X storefront.

It sounds like to substantiate the source of the information that the product is obsolete, I should have used a template. Is that correct?

I look forward to seeing your reply about the links. Please let me know whether there is anything else I can do to help.

Kind regards, Reddoe (talk) 20:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reddoe

Because the of statement you made could be contentious it needed to be backed by a referance citation. I think the Template:Update is one way of getting round the the fact the article is not up to date. Please feel free to improve the text after reason= but please phrase it in such a way it does not assert positively the product is not for sale but merely indicate it may no longer be for sale .... we can;t use assertive statements that we can't back with evidence so it may need to be worded in a neutral way that allows for the statement to be incorrect. Hope I am making sense. In the end have a go at tweaking the reason= and we'll keep doing that until there is something both like. I may simply use Template:Dead link or I may use WP:WAYBACK techniques for the dead links. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I've recovered a couple of cites from teh wayback archive and I've used the WP:REFILL tool to improve a couple of bare references into cites. Thats about all I can really do and hope that helps a little. Thanks. Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:11, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Hey!
Just wanted to say your work on the AUFS Afd was really helpful (and I thank you for that), and it did not in any means make me to an Afd for Component Library for Cross Platform.

It was just that I was unable to find the sources through the regular Google Search (have in mind, I am a bit new to the Afd process). The point of Afd is to find reliable sources and reach a good consensus. Again, thanks for finding the sources to the first article, I will withdraw my nomination! Jovanmilic97 (talk) 16:45, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Thankyou for the reply. It is really appreciated.  Given  I'd defended that article against a vandalizing IP and the well meaning admin who should have simply declined the invalid prod I was feeling a bit frumpy.  I had originally skim glanced a few google scholar references previous but hadn't dug into them, so they could of been trivial or not ... though I had mentioned that on the history summary.  In the end on this occasion some from the google scholar where far from trivial, and the google books was a real bonus bit of luck.  It in fact looks a fair but more significant than I originally thought when digging into it .... though in the final analysis was a dead end.  A merge to Kylix may also have been tenable.  I think its always worth balancing when you take an article to AfD how many volunteer hour's are about to be wasted.  An AfD can be raised in 5 minutes ... the page may have taken 'X' hours to create ... (OK it may be the article's editors fault for not having suitable references).  Its amazing what can be a viable article sometimes given a little bit of care, see WP:Articles for deletion/FoxyTunes for example.  And DGG's thoughts at WP:Articles for deletion/Xmonad (3rd nomination) are interesting .... Anyway I really appreciate the tone of your response.  Thankyou.  Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Yesod (web framework)
Hi! I have reduced the amount of detail and avoided sections dependence as a succession.

To get an idea of the shapes that the different components can take and its external relationships and supports, a decomposition is necessary and some samples clarify the meaning. Is it a Handbook?

It has been mostly a vision from a user. I will continue cleaning it in the future. Griba2010 (talk) 18:28, 10 October 2018 (UTC)


 * @, I very much fear it will be judged a too close to instructions or a handbook and big sections will be deleted. MyI am inclided to suggest Wikibooks is likely a better option ... (or write documentation for the Yesod project itself) ... see for example  ... unfortunately I can but pass you at that and I am totally unfamiliar with Wikibooks . so you would need to ask there.  I personally would see a Wikipedia article as perhaps giving J2EE developer an overview of the framework to a non detail level with perhaps one or two code samples and highlight of main significant differences or simularities to other web frameworks.    You basically need to be trying to give a description to a manager who no longer and will never code again and who has a short span of attention.  There are my thoughts only. Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:51, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

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Your use of the template
Hi, at Zensar Technologies you've put an template stating you are working on the article for 19 hours!!! The template advises that it should be only be placed for a few hours at most. Using it in this way effectively means you are blocking off an article for 19 hours - that is not the purpose of the template. The purpose if when an editor is actively working on an article - I doubt you are working on the article for 19 hours straight. Kindly remove the template.  HighKing++ 18:33, 14 October 2018 (UTC)


 * OK I have no choice but to abandon edits on the history section. Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have removed the in-use and reverted existing edits. Please be aware I regard some of your clean-up as unhelpful and has left the article in a mess, and has also removed useful information I was building.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:56, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Just FYI, I have no intention of editing this article any further - the article was brought to my attention as it was nominated at AfD. The article was a complete mess so I cleaned it up as best I could. I later saw your comments on the article Talk page (to which I've replied) but I was "unable" to make any corrections because of your inappropriate use ot the "inuse" template. That isn't how we normally use that template - maybe an hour but 19 hours!!! No. That's an abuse. If you need to make a large number of edits over an extended period of time, please use your own user space, create a sandbox, etc. It is difficult for me to respond to your comments about "some of" my clean-up as I have no idea which parts you are referring to.  HighKing++ 19:32, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Rowland's Castle
Hi there, I can see you are working on Rowland's Castle, which is great, thank you. I am a bit baffled though by your edit summary "Undoing unhelpful removal of content including some not untagged for cleanup which is not helpful for article development" - could you clarify what you mean by "not untagged for cleanup"? Thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 00:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Basically its a darn hard job to work over content once its removed. I'm very narky due a particularly messy ongoing AfD.  And on top of that there's the Brickworks .... statement supported by by one convincing looking by one I've seen but not by another.  Removel of the Brickworks from Roland's Castle seems inappropriate.  By I really need to look at things not at UTC 01:00.  The Refimprove followed by removals 2 days later was not helpful ... insufficient time for me to waddle over to Leigh Park Library or even Havant Library to look for sources .  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 00:57, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi again, totally understand if you are having a hard time due to an AfD ... I had looked for sources for the Roman brickworks between refimprove and deletion, and failed to find anything - hopefully you'll have more success. It also looked to me like a copy / paste job from another site, though it was a bit difficult to tell which came first. Sorry though, what I actually meant was I cannot understand the phrase "not untagged for cleanup", and wondered if there's a step I've missed, but let's leave it if you're trying to concentrate on the article. Tacyarg (talk) 01:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Leaving it is probably good as there was a Brickworks in Rolands Castle and that should be in the article and should have been improved not removed, though likely the current entry is at least dubious. If a refimprove is placed on 13 October 2018 and content hacked away on 15 October 2018 that wasn't previously specifically tagged cn/fact then I'm going to restore first and toothcomb it as the only sane way I can check everything.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 01:23, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Nvu and Kompozer
You're right, I should've checked Google Books. Google/Google News are the places I mainly check for sources and oftentimes I forget that Google Books also exists. I've withdrawn both noms and well that Google Books source you provided could definitely be of use in both articles.— Mythdon ( talk  •  contribs ) 09:19, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Google books is worth a look to avoid the old WP:TROUT but it can also come up with inappropriate results and increasing especially self published 'fake books' harvested from wikipedia and online docs and blogs. etc. Google scholar is worth checking too.  In both cases the better results are usually nearer the top ... after obvious sites are filtered out -site:companyhomesite.com etc.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:32, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

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drivers (software)
The source of my edit (which you reverted) was https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/types-of-windows-drivers Michael.Haephrati (talk) 04:23, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The content was not cited in the article. A quick glance at that source indicates that that definition was Microsoft Windows specific.  Also given the breadcrumb Docs/Windows/Hardware/Windows Drivers/Kernel-Mode Driver Architecture this perhaps puts that content more within the scope of Device driver per the hatnote.  Another issue remains that there is more than one way of classifying software drivers; with kernel/ I/O being one classification.   Looking back a couple of months when I developed this from a redirect to an article it arose because there were some (software) drivers that were not within the scope of the device driver article, likely related to some work I did on database a while back but in the final analysis I may not have used a link to the article.


 * In general I would comment developing this article is likely to be difficult with risks of falling down one traphole or another, avoiding a content fork with the Device driver article, or putting unbalanced weight on one view or another, etc. I could easily see reverting edits as not an improvement or on a technicality.  Essentially to bring this article to the next level it would in my opinion likely need a broader approach to avoid undue weight say kernel vs user mode.  Thankyou.  Djm-leighpark (talk) 05:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Bicycle with single brake lever


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