User talk:Dkordopitoulas

Thanks for coming back
Hi Dkordopitoulas. Sorry your work was deleted before. Some of us here are trying to slow down the deleters but it's a difficult task. I'm really happy you came back and your International Decision Systems article looks good. I hope you will be a regular contributor here at Wikipedia. Please let me know if I can help you with anything. Regards. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 17:42, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Awwwwwe, thank you very much! I am learning the wiki way :p

Hydroxonium! My International decision systems wiki got deleted, I am going to repost it Monday morning. I know you are trying to slow down the deleters. I understand :) Good luck!
 * Let me look in to this and I will get back to you. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 22:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I am replying below. Also, could you please sign your messages by typing ~ at the end of your messages? That will add your name and time and allows people to know who and when a message was written. Thanks very much. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 22:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

International Decision Systems article
I can help you build the article. We can have the article undeleted and put in a "safe" place so we can work on it. Or we can start from scratch. Please reply here and let me know how you would like to proceed. Thanks. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 22:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If you have the article saved somewhere, or can reproduce it rapidly, then please click Article Incubator/International Decision Systems and start the article there. This is a "safe" place where we can work on the article. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 23:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please disregard the last bit. I'll help you get the article undeleted. Please let me know when you are ready. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 03:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I am ready whenever today!! I have the article actually saved on my desktop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkordopitoulas (talk • contribs) 17:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That's great. I am going to be very "talky", not that i'm not aready "talky". I just want to explain things so that you know what to do, -   Hydroxonium (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Just in case...
Hi Dkordopitoulas. My ISP is having problems and might be going out of business. If you don't hear from me for a few days, it means my ISP is no more and I'm searching for a new one. Just wanted to give you a heads up. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 09:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Using ~ when talking with people
OK, you're already familiar with making articles, so we don't need to go over that. You just type the article like you have been doing. When talking with people or asking question, you should put ~ at the end of your messages. If you can't find the ~ on your keyboard, you can copy it from the top of talk pages. When you are writing messages there should be a note at the top of the page that says "'This is a talk page. Please respect the talk page guidelines, and remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~ )." This adds your name and time and let's people know who is talking and when they talked. You can pratice here by copying this   ~    and pasting it to this page and saving it. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 23:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Reason your article was deleted
To be fair to User:Kimchi.sg‎, s/he wasn't trying to be mean to you, s/he was trying to protect Wikipedia. Wikipedia gets a lot of people making offensive articles as a joke. Wikipedia also gets articles from companies that are trying to promote themselves, which is against Wikipedia rules. Unfortunately, your article, International Decision Systems, looked like one of those. When a new article is created, people will chack to see if the person that created it has worked anywhere else in WWikipedia. They use that information to determine if the person that created the page is making for a joke or a company. Unfortunately, you looked liked a person from a company. That is why the page got deleted. If you could find something on Wikipedia that interests you, you could work on its article. Just adding a little bit of information to other articles will help you a great deal. It can be a simple as correcting spelling errors or adding a sentence. This will add to your contribution history and will help a lot. You can check your contribution history here special:contributions/Dkordopitoulas. You should look around and see if there are any other articles that you would like to work on. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 00:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

What happens next with your article
I have asked User:Kimchi.sg to undelete your article and put it in a "safe" place where we can work on it and get it up to Wikipedia standards. While we are working on the article, I will be "talky", like above. Messages that are just for your I will put here, on your talk page. Messages about the article I will put on the article's talk page. I will go step by step so you can learn how to find good references and how to build a good article. For right now, we are waiting on the article to be undeleted. If you have any questions, you can ask them here. I will be checking it frequently. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 00:15, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, Kimchi.sg undeleted the page. it is now at Article Incubator/International Decision Systems, which is a safe place we can work on it. I'll start with the easiest stuff first. We want to look at the article with a critical eye (i.e. look at it the same way a nitpicker would look at it). The article must be written from a neutral point of view, so what we write should be encyclopedic rather than promotional. So we aren't allowed to say "The greatest..." or other similar things. If you could go though the article and rewrite anything you think is non-neutral, that would be great. I will check your updates and offer suggestions. I will add comments at the article's talk page, so please check there. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 08:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks Hydroxonium for your time! I hope you will see the article is written all by me, I read all the articles and wrote it. I am a college graduate and I just wrote it like I would do for any other class. It is not bias, just a article I just wrote about IDS. Nonetheless, thanks again for the information and help! I will look around and contribute more to the wiki world!!! Dkordopitoulas (talk) 19:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. This may be confusing, but the article is in a "safe" place for us to work on it so it doesn't get deleted again. This is a temporary thing. As long as we are fixing the article, it won't get deleted. When we get the article all fixed up it will be moved to a permanent place. I will go through the article and remove the stuff that is biased. That way you'll know what I mean. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 00:22, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I have fixed this problem. The article's talk page has more information. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 01:02, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Confirming what you wanted
I thought you wanted me to teach you how to make an article that doesn't get deleted. I was going to tell you what needed to be done and then let you do it, so you could learn. Please let me know if this is what you wanted? -   Hydroxonium (talk) 01:07, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

That sounds perfect! Let me know. Dkordopitoulas (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Good job
I just wanted to say you did a good job on this article. Especially adding the infobox and finding references. Good job. I have done some more work on the article and described it on the talk page. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 04:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much! When do you think the page will be out of incubation? Dkordopitoulas (talk) 15:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)I just read from something you wrote "After the article has been around for a year and edited by 10 or more people, this could be in the article. At this early stage, somebody would use that information against us." So I guess this answers my previous question Dkordopitoulas (talk) 17:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry. I didn't explain that very well. Right now we are being very careful and trying to make the article good enough to pass the most difficult test we can think of. That will take a few days and then it will be out of Incubation. A year from now, people will be less critical, and we can add more information without the worry of people trying to delete it because we made a tiny little mistake. Right now we are worried about the tiny little mistakes because people will use that as an excuse to delete it. Hope that makes sense. I also want to say you did a excellent job updating the article. Especially considering this is a really confusing part. Great job. I'll join in and help. Please let me know if you have any questions. Keep up the good work. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 04:17, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Getting the IDS article "mainstream"
I have cut down the article to almost nothing. It is all explained here. Please read through the information and let me know if it makes sense. After that we can build up a brand new article. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The article is now "mainstream" at International Decision Systems. Please be aware that if anybody adds promotional information to the article that it could cause the article to be deleted again. Thanks. -   Hydroxonium (talk) 03:14, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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