User talk:Dlrundus

October 2012
Your recent edits to Mark Cahill could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. Osarius - Want a chat? 19:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 19:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

The Blade of northern Heights,

We have repeatedly reported this abusive behavior to you on Talk pages and by sending you emails regarding the relentless and uprovoked attacks on the Mark Cahill page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cahill) by Tony Miano (Neolights01) and yet, nothing has been done by wiki. This post by Neolights01 violates your own policy, yet, you do nothing but block those who are doing all they can to remove this slanderous and hateful content. Please block the culprit, not the ones who are trying to help Mr. Cahill and Wiki by enforcing your own policies.
 * The content you're fighting over is out of the article right now, and I've locked it down for a week so we can sort out what the hell is going on; however, you cannot threaten people with legal action. E-mail WP:OTRS, and you'll get the attention of a lot of experienced users.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 20:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * what's going on is Tony Miano is posting false and slanderous information about a well known author and speaker that he does not like and has a personal problem with. His has maliciously and relentless continued to post the article we have removed over and over again. We were not threaten legal action, we were advising you (Wiki) and Tony that legal action has already been taken.

also, please unblock me so I have the right to remove anymore harsh comments Tony posts. Even after you locked the page, he posted the same lies on the talk page for Mark Cahill (see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mark_Cahill). We are tired of his attacks both privately and publicly. Mr. Cahill fears for his livelihood and reputation based on the threats he has received from this crazy man! Please help us remove this threat as the Wiki Policy clear says, "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if there are other concerns about edits related to a living person, please report the issue to the biographies of living persons noticeboard. If you are connected to one of the subjects of this article and need help with issues related to it, please see this page."
 * I really, seriously don't see anything libelous about the content there; whether or not it should go in is something I have no opinion on (incidentally, slander would be spoken, libel is written). As I stated above, I or any other admin can't unblock you until you unequivocally retract statements of legal action. I'll look at the talkpage and see what, if anything, I can do; in the meantime, you're best off e-mailing OTRS as the link above describes.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 01:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

( 話して下さい ) - Rest assured, I will not make any threats of legal action against Wiki, this cyber bully who continues to post lies about my client Mr. Cahill or anyone else on Wiki. I need to have access to do my job and edit Mr. Cahill 's page while also keeping it clear and clean from untrue and hateful articles like the ones posted by Tony Miano (AKA, Neolights01). As I have mentioned. the article he continues to post hold no value to this website, demeans my client, is untrue, and threatens the livelihood of Mr. Cahill. Perhaps you did not read the entire article he cites. In it, he makes threats, accusations that are unfounded and perpetuates many statement that are liables towards Mr. Cahill. I appreciate your help in this matter. - Darrel Rundus

PS, - All I was doing is exactly what WIKI policy said to do. Remove inaccurate and hateful content about a living person. I based my deleting of the content Tony was posting based on this: "Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.[1] Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies: Neutral point of view (NPOV) Verifiability (V) No original research (NOR) We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source, which is usually done with an inline citation. Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.[2] Users who persistently or egregiously violate this policy may be blocked from editing. Biographies of living persons ("BLP"s) must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives: the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment. This policy applies to any living person mentioned in a BLP, whether or not that person is the subject of the article, and to material about living persons in other articles and on other pages, including talk pages.[3] The burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia rests with the person who adds or restores material."

You have clearly made a legal threat here: "This is your final warning before legal action will be taken." If you clearly state that you withdraw this statement and your accusation of libel, you can be unblocked. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:29, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

I also assured you above that I would not make any more "Legal Threats". what more must I do to get unblocked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlrundus (talk • contribs) 00:03, October 20, 2012‎


 * Do you withdraw any and all outstanding legal threats you have made on Wikipedia? -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:21, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

> I withdraw my threat for me to sue Wiki or this Tony Miano. However, please be advised that we need your help in this matter. The article this man continues to try to post on Mr. Cahill's page not only violates your own policy regarding living persons, it is demeaning Mr. Cahill's reputation and hindering his right to free speech, and to sell his latest book. Hate speech is not only illegal, it's destructive. So, please, as I promise not to sue you, Wiki or anyone else involved, help us keep Wiki clear anf free from such unfounded, and untrue content. - Darrel Rundus