User talk:Dmize WTF

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I am trying to lengthen Andre Drummond's page. Everything I submit is removed without an explanation? There's no reason Jabari Parker should have a novel on his wiki, while Drummond has like 4 paragraphs.

1. He does not weigh 270. He didn't even weigh 270 at the beginning of his NBA career. Listed then at 279 here's DraftExpress link: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andre-Drummond-5772/ Reports last season say he weighed in at one point at 297. That was said by the Pistons broadcaster George Blaha, so there isn't a reference other than these: http://www.pistonpowered.com/2013/01/andre-drummond-not-a-good-practice-player-says-tayshaun-prince/ & another http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/53963/the-andre-drummond-experience where a poster says that Andre Drummond himself had said that.

2. Are scouting reports not allowed, or do I need more references when I make one? Is adding something like: "Andre has quickly developed into one of the elite rebounders in the NBA. He posted a xx% rebound rate and averaged xx rebounds per 36minutes" with a reference to "basketball-reference.com" which shows those numbers? How about "Andre Drummond was one of four centers to average at least 55 steals and 95 blocks along with Dwight Howard, Marc Gasol and Joakim Noah" with this source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20130404/andre-drummond-nba-rookie-detroit-pistons/

Dmize WTF (talk) 22:04, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * There's explanations on the history page, using the edit summaries. You can always see the history of a Wikipedia article by adding &action=history at the end of the URL.
 * By the way, a bit of unsolicited advice. I'd suggest creating a new account. "WTF" could very well be considered incivil. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. @  22:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)


 * facepalm* I've been there, followed those instructions and have still had content deleted. It would be nice to at least see a reason.

And really? No, I'm not changing my account name, those are my initials. If you have problem with that, ban me.

Dmize WTF (talk) 23:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Dmize, we wont ban you for an issue that insignificant, I personally dont see anything wrong with it. The reason why every addition you make to an article gets reverted is because the content was unsourced or unconstructive, the more you keep trying to do that you begin to edit war, which will get you blocked. Always cite significant content with references, if you don't, anyone can remove the added content. Prabash.  Akmeemana   01:28, 16 July 2013 (UTC)


 * One problem with the scouting report is that too many of those things cannot be easily measured or proven. (Eg, "Drummond possesses legit NBA size and can rebound and block shots at an above average and potentially elite rate.") "Legit NBA size" is a fuzzy concept, and we shouldn't be making any claims about his potential. Every NBA player has the potential to be better than they are. At times, you do use some specific stats. (Eg, "He was one of four centers in 2013, along with Dwight Howard, Joakim Noah and Marc Gasol to post at least 95 blocks and 55 steals.") But in that example, I think the stat is too specific to be of broad interest. Those seem like arbitrary benchmarks, in my opinion. Why 95, and not 90?
 * As for his weight, the infobox does say "listed weight", and his listed weight is 270. Trying to determine his true weight is impossible, so to avoid constant headaches, regular basketball editors have decided to just use the NBA.com numbers.
 * IMO, the Jabari Parker article is excessive. I wouldn't consider it a model for comparison. Zagal e jo^^^ 03:03, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate the detailed response. I will leave the article alone. I see now that most of them can't be measured(well, except rebounding which he has the actual stats to back up) Anyways the article will write itself eventually I suppose. edit: also not to nitpick, but the "legit size" portion was already in the ESPN scouting report which was on his page before I even edited it.

Dmize WTF (talk) 04:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, you're right about the "legit size" part. Zagal e jo^^^ 05:21, 16 July 2013 (UTC)