User talk:Doğu/August 2021

Nabis (company)
Hello, Vikipolimer. Thanks for your comments on my Talk page, and for your offer to continue the conversation. I responded on Nabis (company)'s talk page. I hope we can talk this out. FishAndChips36 (talk) 21:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi @FishAndChips36 I just saw your message, you can create your page again with meat article criteria. 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 00:15, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you, @Vikipolimer. The speedy deletion was declined by another editor. What is “meat article criteria”? I assume you mean “meet,” and the criteria you’re referring to is notability? If so, I have responded in detail on the Talk page, and I invite your feedback. Let’s talk specifics, shall we? I want to understand what specifically you find lacking. FishAndChips36 (talk) 03:11, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @FishAndChips36 Look at the: WP:CSD 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 03:13, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * @Vikipolimer Did you see my response on the Talk page for Nabis? FishAndChips36 (talk) 11:16, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @FishAndChips36 It's up to the community to decide :) 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 11:52, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Viraj Khanna
Hello Vikipolimer, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Viraj Khanna, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  10:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * @WereSpielChequers I'll check it detailed :) 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 10:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Check edits carefully before reverting
In your edit to Kunnamangalam Police station, you incorrectly reverted an edit that was removing a duplicate paragraph from the article. You then warned the editor for "removal of maintenance templates", which was inaccurate. Your efforts at reverting vandalism from articles are appreciated, but please take more care that your reverts are correct and that the warnings you give editors are accurate. I undid your revert and your warning. Cheers! Schazjmd  (talk)  16:34, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, @Schazjmd. Thanks for your feedback. I'll be more careful about the revert actions. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 20:08, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Disruptive behaviour
I made an edit to an article. I carefully explained my reason in the edit summary. One minute later, you reverted the edit without bothering to explain why. And then, you had the gall to leave me a message accusing me of not explaining my edit properly. Was this incompetence, or deliberate trolling? Zqzkqzq (talk) 08:04, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi @Zqzkqzq, You removed a sourced part from the article. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 08:08, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * And? You felt that entitled you to revert without explanation, while falsely accusing me of not explaining my edit? Zqzkqzq (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Zqzkqzq Please check the WP:Vandalism page for further information. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 08:14, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You had better not be accusing me of vandalism. I'll ask you again: why did you revert my edit without any explanation, one minute after I made it, and then falsely accuse me of not explaining my edit? Zqzkqzq (talk) 08:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Geronimo Alpaca
Sadly the accusations made in the original post are not accurate and are actionable. You assume that press reports, however biased are correct - they are not. I am a former Chairman of the British Alpaca Society and lead the BAS delegation to the inaugural Camelid Stakeholder meeting with DEFRA some years ago. I have seen the hard copy blood test results. Had Geronimo EVER failed a skin test he would have been slaughtered within days - no quibbles. You have taken all of my corrections down which leaves Wikipedia promoting false facts about Geronimo. You cite the Vet Times article yet you remove my quote from it about Eleanor Brown - I don't know if you are part of Wikipedia per se, or just some renegade that doesn't like corrections. Nevertheless this insert does Wikipedia no service as it stands as it is factually incorrect on all the points I made. So kindly explain yourself, your motives and your authority to delete corrections which I doubt very much if you even understood. Ledgers Dream (talk) 09:13, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hey @Ledgers Dream be bold! You can make changes any time, just add references about your changes to the article. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 09:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Unconstructive?
Hi, I wondered how this edit needed an immediate reversion and a warning on the user Talk page for unconstructive editing? Do you know something about the history of the article and user that is not obvious? Otherwise I would have thought a CN tag and a Welcome in the user page might have been more appropriate perhaps? But I'd be happy to be put right on this if I am getting it wrong. Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:00, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi @DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered You can check the article history about my undoing action, I did it because the added part which I undo was not in previous versions. Also, there wasn't any reference for the added part in my action. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 13:15, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi - I agree with DBaK's concerns here. I actually came to speak to you about AIV report on Zqzkqzq, but this is also relevant. You are using vandalism warnings inappropriately. Zqzkqzq is now blocked as a sock of an LTA, but none of their edits could reasonably be characterised as WP:VANDALISM, as the term is used here. The LTA behind the account was never a vandal, they're CBANNED because of their inability to interact with other people collaboratively. Similarly, the diff that DBaK presents looks like a good-faith attempt to add a nugget of information to an article. It was unsourced, which is a problem, but it's by no means unbelievable that this person, who the new editor was referring to in their edit, might have gone to the prep school that the article was about. You might have added a citation needed tag, or you might have removed it with an explanatory edit summary saying that a source was needed, but a revert without explanation is unhelpful, and a vandalism warning template is WP:BITE. Please be more careful when patrolling new changes - it's all too easy to scare away new contributors, when we should be trying to nurture them. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  17:38, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Girth Summit thanks for your advice and feedback i'll be more careful about the reverts. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 03:59, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello and thanks very much for the reply. When you say You can check the article history about my undoing action – well, yes, of course I did, before writing anything here ... I am not sure how there could have been any point in my comments had I not done so because I'd just have been stumbling around in the dark! :) I agree very much with the comments made above by  so I won't go over that ground again. I just wanted to let you know that I've done stuff with the user Talk page and the article that I think is more appropriate, and have asked in both places for a ref for the new added bloke ... if it is not forthcoming in a reasonable time then we can zap him out of it again and restore the status quo. Hope this helps, and all good wishes, DBaK (talk) 21:43, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, @DBaK Thanks for the feedback we are all on the same side so your warnings are important to me. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 21:56, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and happy editing! Cheers DBaK (talk) 22:04, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

My edit was reverted for being "unconstructive"
Hi, I have recently removed false information from an article. I have proof that it is false and you can read it right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_youngest_birth_mothers#Questionable_information I understand if you thought I was vandalizing the article, hopes this clears it up :) 24.85.200.227 (talk) 19:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This is another example of an edit you reverted inappropriately, and a warning template that you should not have issued. The IP left an explanatory edit summary, pointing to a talk page discussion where their edit was discussed. Did you review that prior to reverting? Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  21:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi @Girth Summit Thanks for your information, I replied IP user question. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 04:05, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi! Can you add the revision about revert here please, so I can check it? <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 04:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Here is the revision, plus a visualization of the changes I made. 24.85.200.227 (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, Sorry and thanks for your feedback, I have reverted it because of the removing template but you're right, I just removed my warning on your message page. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 01:07, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Welcoming users before they edit
Hello! I noticed you welcomed a user before they had made a single edit. This is often frowned upon because it mentions that user has made contributions which can confuse users. I would recommend not doing this in the future. Blaze The Wolf &#124; Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 23:50, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * @Blaze The Wolf Is there any Wikipedia policy or guideline about this being inappropriate? <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 00:10, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily, however I'm simply saying that it can be confusing for new users receiving the messages as they haven't made any edits and all of the sudden they're being thanked for their contributions when they haven't made any. It's your choice whether or not you continue. I'm just saying that it's discouraged by the community. Blaze The Wolf &#124; Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 00:21, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Blaze The Wolf The purpose of a welcome message is to introduce the policy and guidelines to the registered user so that the new user learns the style manual through this message, also we use it automatically on Turkish Wikipedia. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 00:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This isn't the Turkish Wikipedia. This is the English Wikipedia. They aren't related outside of being different languages of Wikipedia. While I don't disagree I'm also saying it's confusing for a new user to be thanked for their contributions when they haven't made any. Blaze The Wolf &#124; Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 00:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Blaze The Wolf I understood what you said, and I just said it's not bad faith to add a welcome message to new users. And I know here is English Wikipedia that's why I'm contributing here. <b style="color:black;font-size:14px">𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 </b><b style="font-size:18px;padding-top:5px;color:#ffc107;">℣</b> 00:31, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Nobody said that you were acting in bad faith. It is important to recognize that different projects have different ways of doing things.  Please see the notice at the top of this page. Jake Wartenberg (talk) 00:38, 30 August 2021 (UTC)