User talk:Doc James/Archive 129

Recommending new editors to your WP Medicine
Hi Doc James,

Our system generated a list of potential new editors for your project. They may be interested in collaborating with your project members on your project's articles. As you will notice, the list contains both experienced editors and newcomers. Both are valuable for Wikipedia and your project. Please go ahead and introduce your project to them, and point them to some project tasks to start with. We also provide a template invitation message to make it easier to contact the potential new editors. Just click the invite link to write the invitation message.

We'd appreciate it if you could fill the survey to let us know what you think about our recommendations so we can improve our system. Please let me know below if you have any general feedback about our recommendations. Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 05:26, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Cool thanks User:Bobo.03. Still on holidays but will take a look. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 10:57, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Doc James, I update the recommendation list sent to you earlier. I fixed some bugs in the previous version (as you might have seen that some editors on the previous list were not quite active). Very sorry about it, but now, everything should be good! Please take a look, and let me know what you think! Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 16:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

The ICD stuff in food allergy articles
I noticed you moved the ICD-type information in Peanut allergy from the infobox to the end of the article. As part of the GA nomination of the Milk allergy article the reviewer had asked me to put it in the infobox. Personally, I don't care, but I think the location should be uniform across the food allergy articles. Current situation is at end for Peanut and Food allergy; versus infobox for Milk allergy, Egg allergy and Tree nut allergy. Soy allergy has neither. I leave to you whether this is worth an effort.

I am currently poking and prodding Peanut Allergy, Vitamin E, Nutrition and pregnancy, and Dietary supplement. At some point I may nominate PA or VE for GA, but the other two are too close to being COIs for me to try GA. I am glad that several people have combined efforts to get Dietary supplement to B-class. David notMD (talk) 19:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Am happy to make it consistent. There has been a push to update to the new infoboxes. This will likely take more years to fully roll out. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 00:31, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

OTRS, but for once, not a request to handle a ticket
I mentioned your name (in a favorable way) in a recent café post so it's only fair that I let you know. here. S Philbrick (Talk)  19:37, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks User:Sphilbrick :-) Agree. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 23:44, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Regarding page number where content appeared in reference
I have e-mailed you required information. please look into it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakeshsingh4146 (talk • contribs) 09:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah thanks. See it now. Will look at it further in a bit. Depersonalization_disorder Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 09:23, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Deprodding of K. M. Cherian (doctor)
I have removed the tag from K. M. Cherian (doctor), which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add back to the file. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:49, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Doc James. Just to clarify things, I did not de-prod the article myself. I only saw User talk:Explicit and did a little post deprod cleanup on the article's talk page. When I saw that you had not been notified, I added the above template as a courtesy. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:51, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Have clean up some more unreffed stuff. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 09:28, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I tried to do a bit of clean up myself. My take at the moment is that this person is probably notable enough for a stand-alone article, but all of the unsourced content was cluttering things up a bit. He also seems to be a research MD as well, but I'm not sure how to incorporate that properly into the article. I stumbled upon this via the talk page of another editor, and articles about medical practicioners/researchers, etc. are not really my forte, so not sure how much more I will be able to improve it. There article's, etc. online about him, but most of the recent stuff looks like it might just be regurgiating what was in the article; so, I've been trying to find stuff prior to the article's creation. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:40, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 19:10, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Leprosy in Malta
Thank you for your help with this :) Beckettnoti (talk) 22:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No worries. Just minor adjustments. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 09:15, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Dyslexia
should you have a moment, could you look at this edit, thanks(BTW put this together--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:54, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a great source. Moved to neuroanatomy section as it is undue weight for it to have its own. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 23:43, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

text
...I changed it this might work--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah yes it does add the logo. But it overlaps a bunch of text to the left? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 02:39, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * now 40px(even smaller), no overlap(would it be ok to place at "announcements" WPMED/talk now or further changes?)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:56, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hum I see it way over to the left on top of the Wikipedia logo. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 11:48, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Doc James on the right then?..let me know if you like the idea, if not we'll just drop it/revisit the idea in the future, thanks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:54, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Should we put the picture of the rod in the teal box? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:37, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * perhaps best just simple...IMO--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:48, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The rod in that picture still overlaps the Wikipedia logo for me.
 * Are you wanting the rod to overlap the Wikipedia logo? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:55, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:11, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay that is not overlapping ":-) Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 15:14, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ok, Ill post at "announcements"--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 16:28, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

What do you think about bringing COTW back?
Hi Doc James,

I noticed that WikiProject Medicine used to have collaboration of the week (COTW) events a long time ago. Looks like the cost of coordinating to select articles to focus on was a main reason to make COTW stop, though COTW seemed pretty effective in engaging project members working together. I am thinking to create a tool to help recommend articles to WikiProjects. Just wonder what do you think about it? Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Bobo.03 The group of medical editors is small and often has specific interests within the area of medicine. I think COTW faded due to more than just trouble selecting articles. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 02:52, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * What's your view on its fading? Bobo.03 (talk) 06:19, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Many things on Wikipedia are maintained by one or two people. If those who do the maintenance move on it often fades which I think it what happened in this case. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 08:38, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Internet in a box/Swahili
Hi, I left the following on your talk page at swwiki but am not sure if you saw it: ''All in all the Swahili set of the articles is very much a mixed bag. I appreciate highly that many of the articles stemming from your project attract high readers' interest, a number of health entries are always in our group of much searched articles. On the other hand there are still too many really bad translations (sometimes incomprehensible gibberish) and the translations have not been coordinated as far as terminology is concerned. If you started today I would have some advice, because now I know the available specialized dictionary that could and should have been used by all the volunteer translators.'' (who often decided on (or even made up) terminology on their own)

After seeing the text you ask to translate, I think there should be

a) an information that a number of the entries is still at a test stage and that we appreciate any help to make them better.

b) a clear adress where to send proposals.

What do you think? Plus: Did you just take the entries from your project or all entries in the relevant catagories? Kipala (talk) 09:48, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * User:Kipala


 * Happy to have the wording adjusted :-) We do say "Join us and make the next version even better." but we could use stronger wording. We could say something like "Content may be of variable quality, please join us and make the next version even better"?


 * Thoughts? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "Did you just take the entries from your project or all entries in the relevant catagories?" Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 09:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

We have a category "Afya". I tried some time ago to connect all articles and categories like "magonjwa" (diseases) as subcats here. I am not sure if I got all from your project because a number was not categorized. Plus some unconnected categories introduced which hopefukky i have discovered and connected.

Theh there are also entries which did not arise from your project (together with thematic doubles, as the project translators rarely checked what was already existing). --- Plus for people who access the content offline I appreciate if you provide an email adress where to send comments. Kipala (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Kipala The project would have benefited from a Swahili Wikipedia directing which articles should and should not be translated by the volunteers at TWB. As without that I agree we likely ended up with some duplications which are unfortunate.
 * You can find a list of the articles this project was involved with translating here
 * Emails can be sent to wikiprojectmedgmail.com
 * Thanks for your help and guidance. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 13:33, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * As much as I see the value of your project unfortunately we are still too few reliably editors active to deal with such a project. From time to time I clean up a bit, I think Riccardo too, but there is so much other things around.
 * As for choice, I think it would be appropriate to use the content of https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamii:Afya for your selection (I just separated chakula=food which had been in here as a subcat, following the example of enwiki). Some of the existing entries from outside the project are definitely better than some of those from the project, although of course the basic approach of the project was a much higher standard. Otherwise it would not be right to claim that the selection are the health related entries from swwiki. As you cannot understand nor control anyway what the translators delivered maybe you just trust my advice in the selection. Kipala (talk) 14:38, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The though was to put the entire Swahili WP on the device. We go with just the English medical articles as we do not have room for all of EN WP. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:46, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, if the complete swwiki will be in the dataset then the text has to be different. I put an alternative English version below your proposal. This evening I can upload the list of present health terms (as looking thru cats and subcats is not sooo easy for a newcomer) and then translate the text.Kipala (talk) 08:24, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I have adjusted the original wording. Noticed a mistake their. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 08:37, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Swahili translation is done. You might check if the data storage you want to use for distribution has sufficient capacity to carry the swwiki together with the English medical articles. Swahili only will be nice for distribution of swwiki; as far as the medical content is concerned it will be better to give them English, too. The situation is in flux. Medical personell have their training in English and will have problems to fluently read the medical sw-content. But they have to (or at least many try to) explain to patients in Swahili. Situation will be similar in other languages which are the main medium of communication in their area but personell is trained in English/French. Kipala (talk) 20:51, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. SW WP is about 303 Mb. The device will hold about 32,000 Mb. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 03:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Corneotherapy
Corneotherapy article appeared out of the blue. It looks very suspect to me - cosmetic skin treatment masquerading as science - but I am no expert here and would value a more knowledgeable pair of eyes on the topic if you have a spare few mnutes. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk 11:18, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Have redirected. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 12:36, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Doc James

Thank you for your contribution to this article. I appreciate your edits. However, contrarty to what is said, corneotherapy is not "cosmetic skin treatment masquerading as science". As an experienced dermatologist myself, I have taken time to write this article on my computer and read about Wikipedia for quite some time. The Corneotherapy article introduces real medical research that has been around since the 1960s. The article published has a sufficient number of solid academic references to back this up. It is not promoting in any way a medical product nor is it an alternative to moisturizers. Therefore, as suggested to me by another experienced editor who pointed me to WP:BOLD, I am reverting your lastest change. Thank you for your understanding in this matter. Jornie09 (talk) 03:45, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Many sources equate corneotherapy with moisturizers. Have added that to the talk page Talk:Corneotherapy
 * I imagine you also are associated with the The International Association for Applied Corneotherapy? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 03:57, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Doc James. I appreciate your explanation that makes me understand better your perception of Corneotherapy. It made me smile a bit. May I suggest that you take few minutes to read the entire review article "Corneobiology and Corneotherapy – a final chapter" written by Albert Klingman, the father of Corneotherapy himself. It is in that seminal review that you picked up the section title: " Emollients and moisturizers: the beginnings of corneotherapy". It is available here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-2494.2011.00644.x/full.

Klingman and his associates have written extensively about Corneotherapy and corneobiology in academic venues since the 1960s. The word "moisturizer" is a modern commercial name that appeared in the 1990's as a derivative line of products from existing science that predates it. Corneotherapy, sometimes associated with corneobiology is solid research that started in the 1960s and is still being carried out in several research institutions. Thank you. Jornie09 (talk) 13:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You still did not answer by question. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:57, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Doc James. I am happy to notice your continuous interest in the topic of corneotherapy. I am a dermatopathologist who is very much aware of the existence of the Internal Association for Applied Corneotherapy (IAAC). Although I am not member of this association, I did attend a couple of its conferences in the past as I consider corneotherapy a related field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jornie09 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Question about black death plague.
Most common idea of thought is it spread by rats and fleas. However, Season 3 Episode1 of David Attenborough's Natural Curiosities states that virus was airborne. (Netflix) please explain which is truth Littleblackbird13 (talk) 02:43, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Littleblackbird13 Yes the question is was this pneumonic plague transferred through the air or bubonic plague transferred via the fleas of rates? Or was it a combination of the two? I would say it is likely the later. But we should go with what the best avaliable sources say. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 12:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Hep B copywrite
Hi James, Was the content added last night copied directly from the reviews? If so, I will communicate this with the volunteer to confirm that he or she is aware that paraphrased conclusions are only accepted. Do you have software to help detect copied content? I have done it the old-fashioned way (copy-paste-ctrl-f in the review), but I do not have time to do this for all content added. Thanks for helping to clean up those edits. This editor is keen to continue adding Cochrane evidence. I will be sure that he or she understands how to communicate evidence going forward. JenOttawa (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I verify the changes of new user.
 * I described the copy and paste here
 * Or are you referring to a different case User:JenOttawa? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 13:52, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion. I noticed that you already communicated with the new user here. I will touch base via email as well to make sure it is clear that conclusions are to be paraphrased. Thanks again!!! JenOttawa (talk) 13:54, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah yes that case :-) Thanks Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 13:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the user you referred to above is someone that I recruited. I am not certain though. Thanks again, have a great day!JenOttawa (talk) 13:59, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay sounds good. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 14:01, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Comment
I apologize for this posting as I now see that you did not revert my edit but, rather, removed one of the references. Helen4780 (talk) 01:20, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * And I adjusted the wording here Best Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 01:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

apparently not
per, I got ('click' Show older changes for full discussion)...I tried, not sure what to do now,(Seppi333 indicated interest but he needs the scripts)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 02:09, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update User:Ozzie10aaaa and creating a fabricator ticket. User:RexxS and User:CFCF can you help? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 02:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It's unusual that the previous scripts are not available. That means someone will have to code it all again from scratch, which makes it the sort of job that is going to consume a lot of someone's time. I'm not sure I can commit to that right now. --RexxS (talk) 09:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:West.andrew.g may be willing to share the 'scripts' he had used before...--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:54, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I think Andrews scripts were complicated but does not hurt to ask. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 12:57, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I think Andrews scripts were complicated but does not hurt to ask. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 12:57, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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Addition
To: Doc James

I am a current college student and I am assigned to the Autism spectrum article for my Clinical Psychology class. I have been working hard to add more information to some of the sections in this article for a grade for my class. I added my new work in over the past week and this morning I found that most of the information I inserted was removed today by your account. I am not angry, however I am taking this as a learning experience and want to become a better writer and critical thinker for myself. Was all that I interested into the article all really that bad that it all needed to be removed? This is just important for me because it is my grade. I want to learn from this experience and help improve the Autism Spectrum article in the best power that I can. If you could please explain how I can do better that would really help me. I am graded by adding information and my grade depends on it, just let me know what I can do better Thank you! Tianna Ramos Garcia (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


 * User:Alexandet a few things:
 * This text was added "According to statistics, ASD has been found to affect 1 in 600 children, and 80 percent of patients that have been diagnosed have been males." based on this source
 * However the epidemiology of the condition was already in the article in question. Just a few sentence lower it already said "Autism spectrum is estimated to affect about 1% of people" based on the DSM5
 * Additionally it said "Symptoms are typically recognized between one and two years of age." based on the DSM5.
 * Other parts of your addition I simple moved such as "Males are affected more often than females."
 * This text "Besides medicine, other treatments that aid in improving occupation, language, and socials skills have been found to help the individual carry on daily life with the disorder." Not really sure what this means? Do you mean counselling and language therapy?
 * This text "Having these "absent" spots of the brain not functioning can be very difficult for the individual to fully function at 100 percent and be aware of what is going on around them because perceptions of the brain are not able to capture everything that is going on around them." This did not have a reference. And these are not "spots" of absent functioning.
 * I condensed this "Through research, scientists have found that the gene for Autism sits on three of the very chromosomes (2q, 7q, 15q) of the individual that can be passed down to the next generation"
 * I think you meant this "Gene for autism have been found on chromosome arms 2q, 7q, 15q." but the original wording was not very clear.
 * Also it is not "Autism" but "autism" and references go immediately after punctuation.
 * The stuff in the vaccine controversy section was already covered and what was added was duplication. Best Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 10:51, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Another Daily Mail RfC
There is an RfC at Talk:Daily Mail. Your input would be most helpful. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:19, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thks Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 10:58, 2 March 2018 (UTC)