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Ways to improve Ingando
Hi, I'm Salimfadhley. Docentation, thanks for creating Ingando!

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Salimfadhley (talk) 00:14, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello Docentation, Jarrvis here. You're quite right - 'self-contradictory' can appear a harsh label. However, what I suggested was self-contradictory was not the use of two different sources with two different claims. If anything, that would be sound academic practice, to point out the diversity of views. What I suggest is self-contradictory was the claim that the Ingando camps were first used in a particular context (even before the Rwandan Civil War), and then an immediate follow-up claim (with no effective caveats made whatsoever) that they were post-Civil War instruments.

Regarding your second question, it appears clear that where conflicting views from the sources exist, the views ought to be clearly set out (along with the supporting source material). Having reviewed the alleged "sources", I can find little evidence that the deleted one is genuinely any support for the claim it purportedly made. The link was at best tenuous, and quite simply superfluous. In this context, its being elided appeared eminently justifiable to me.

Jarrvis (talk) 07:24, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hermione Cronje has been accepted
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Aberporth
Hi, Docentation, I have edited your recent contribution to Aberporth. See. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello ; thank you for changing that. May I ask whether it’s standard practice? (I ask because it seems to be to be slightly more inelegant to have Welsh: x (y) than “the Old Welsh a (b), c (d)” &c.) If it is I shall rectify my other additions—it just occurred to me that my copy of Place-Names of Great Britain and Ireland is useful for something other than joking about possessing boring books to friends, so I intend to upload most of the etymological information from it to Wikipedia in the fullness of time. Docentation (talk) 17:31, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello! No, not standard practice, but if a template is available, I tend to use it. I suppose it was the "old" that I took notice—seemed redundant as modern Welsh applies too. Does that make sense? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I see, ; I have a feeling that the template was intended to be used slightly differently, though I share the desire to use templates where they exist. The example given at Template:Lang-cy is “Thuringia (German: Thüringen)”, which is different from “Welsh: aber (mouth)”; the former seems to be a reasonable use of punctuation, the latter not. As for Welsh and Old Welsh, I think that it is useful to distinguish between the two for etymological purposes, even if the words are the same. I don’t feel too strongly about this so I shan’t interfere with Aberporth. Docentation (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Good to hear back from you. Cannot disagree. Have fun with the etymology! Don't worry about pinging—you're on my watchlist since 18:26. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Glad we reached consensus; I’ll revert the change to Aberporth if that’s all right with you. Docentation (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course it is. Wishing you a pleasing week! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:13, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Current events templates
Hi Docentation, hope you're doing well

Just wanted to drop you a note about National People's Congress Decision on Hong Kong national security legislation and the current template, as I saw you reverted my bot's removal of the template from there. current, per its documentation, is meant to be used in those extraordinary occasions that many editors (perhaps a hundred or more) edit an article on the same day, and not to mark an article that merely has recent news articles about the topic; if it were, hundreds of thousands of articles would have this template, with no informational consequence. Therefore, what my bot does is remove the current template from any article that's not been edited in more than five hours, because the need for the template is removed - the indication that "this article isn't stable because it's still developing" isn't necessary.

I hope that makes sense, let me know if you have any questions - the bot is still going through approval with the Bot Approvals Group, and your input is welcome!

All the best, Naypta ☺ &#124; ✉ talk page &#124; 16:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I see; I should have read the documentation. Thank you for pointing this out. Docentation (talk) 16:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Public Finance Ordinance moved to draftspace
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High Court Ordinance moved to draftspace
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Probate and Administration Ordinance moved to draftspace
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Landlord and Tenant (Consolidation) Ordinance moved to draftspace
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Your draft article, Draft:Public Finance Ordinance


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:High Court Ordinance


Hello, Docentation. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "High Court Ordinance".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

November 2022
Hi Docentation! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * yes, fair enough—he who drafts inebriated had better (finalise) edit(s) sober. I suppose, apropos, that congratulations are in order. Docentation (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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