User talk:DoctorJoeE/Archive 8

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
 * Backlog

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
 * Coordinator

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for  making  the occasional  mistake while  others can learn from  their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
 * This month's refresher course

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
 * Deletion tags

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
 * Paid editing


 * Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
 * Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent  enhancements to  the New Pages Feed and  features in the Curation  tool, and there are still more to  come. Due to the wealth  of information  now displayed by  ORES, reviewers are strongly  encouraged to  use the system now rather than Twinkle; it  will  also  correctly  populate the logs.
 * Not English
 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
 * Tools

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.

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September 2019 GOCE Newsletter
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Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019
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Issue 35, July – August 2019 
 * Wikimania
 * We're building something great, but..
 * Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
 * A Wikibrarian's story
 * Bytes in brief

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
 * Tools
 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
 * Reviewer Feedback
 * Second set of eyes
 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

Books & Bytes – Issue 36
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Issue 36, September – October 2019 
 * #1Lib1Ref January 2020
 * #1Lib1Ref 2019 stories and learnings

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GOCE December 2019 Newsletter
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course

Books & Bytes – Issue 37
 The Wikipedia Library Books & Bytes

Issue 37, November – December 2019 
 * #1Lib1Ref
 * Wikimedia and Libraries User Group

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New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
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The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
 * Source Guide Discussion

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.
 * Redirects


 * Discussions and Resources
 * There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
 * A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
 * A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
 * A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
 * Refresher

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7095 Low – 4991 High – 7095

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DoctorJoeE: Reference DB Cooper: My intent for the line I edited, was to show that it links to a FBI website, where said FBI says Cooper died in the jump. If you sample people that know a lot about the case, a majority (over 50%, maybe 90%) will say he survived. Their info is available on podcasts, books, videos, etc. Wiki is not the place to discuss whether he survived or not. However, I believe that if the comment references a website, then the comment should reflect what is written on that site. If not, then it should reference a different source. Some do consider me to have a lot of knowledge of the case. It's not worth an edit war though. Many believe the FBI wants the public to believe DB Cooper died. Regardless, the line in Wiki should reflect what is in the source. Please edit it as you see fit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwnoone1 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

GOCE March newsletter
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Precious anniversary
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Issue 38, January – April 2020
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Issue 38, January – April 2020 
 * New partnership
 * Global roundup

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GOCE June newsletter
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Books & Bytes – Issue 39, May – June 2020
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Issue 39, May – June 2020 
 * Library Card Platform
 * New partnerships
 * ProQuest
 * Springer Nature
 * BioOne
 * CEEOL
 * IWA Publishing
 * ICE Publishing
 * Bytes in brief

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New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020
Hello ,

NPP Sorting can be a great way to find pages needing new page patrolling that match your strengths and interests. Using ORES, it divides articles into topics such as Literature or Chemistry and on Geography. Take a look and see if you can find time to patrol a couple pages a day. With over 10,000 pages in the queue, the highest it's been since ACPERM, your help could really make a difference. In late February, Google added 5 new languages to Google Translate: Kinyarwanda, Odia (Oriya), Tatar, Turkmen and Uyghur. This expands our ability to find and evaluate sources in those languages.
 * Your help can make a difference
 * Google Adds New Languages to Google Translate
 * Discussions and Resources
 * A discussion on handling new article creation by paid editors is ongoing at the Village Pump.
 * Also at the Village Pump is a discussion about limiting participation at Articles for Deletion discussion.
 * A proposed new speedy deletion criteria for certain kinds of redirects ended with no consensus.
 * Also ending with no change was a proposal to change how we handle certain kinds of vector images.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 10271 Low – 4991 High – 10271

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Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

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 * RILM
 * #1Lib1Ref May 2020 report
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Guild of Copy Editors September 2020 Newsletter
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December 2020 Guild of Copy Editors Newsletter
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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
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It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to and  who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to, , and who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
 * Year in review

has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.
 * Reviewer of the Year

As a special recognition and thank you has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
 * NPP Technical Achievement Award

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 2262 Low – 2232 High – 10271

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 * New EBSCO collections now available
 * 1Lib1Ref 2021 underway
 * Library Card input requested
 * Libraries love Wikimedia, too!

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Your recent edits
First of all, thank you for your excellent expansions to my additions to Poe Toaster! They made me curious about who you were, so I looked at your recent contribs and noticed an error. For the Brendan Dassey article you said that there's no such thing as unintentional homicide, and removed "intentional". However, there is unintentional, or accidental homicide, which usually receives a much lower penalty. It was a dark and stormy night. (talk) 00:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, It was a dark and stormy night. (Love your username, BTW.) I understand your point, but the generally-accepted definition of homicide is "the deliberate killing of one person by another" (accent mine).  Yes, technically, there is such a thing as "unintentional homicide" — but usually (including here), it is referred to as involuntary manslaughter, because otherwise it sounds too much like an oxymoron. Thank you for pointing it out, however.  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  00:39, 13 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the copy edit. I basically copy and pasted from the AP article: "April 25, 2007: After 4 1/2 hours of deliberation, the jury convicts Dassey of being party to first-degree intentional homicide, mutilation of a corpse and second-degree sexual assault. Sentencing is scheduled Aug. 2." I don't know where the AP got that phraseology from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by It was a dark and stormy night. (talk • contribs) 01:16, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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 * New partnerships: PNAS, De Gruyter, Nomos
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Precious anniversary
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Hack Wilson
Well, whatever. Although a "hallmark" is in no way the same thing as a "symptom" when a disease or human condition is concerned, I am used to people who assume ownership of articles. I refuse to contest ownership. Wastrel Way (talk) Eric


 * Actually "hallmarks" are a subset of "symptoms". There are many symptoms of any disease or syndrome, but the "hallmarks" are the symptoms that must be present in order to make the diagnosis.  If one suspects fetal alcohol syndrome, one would look for short stature, tiny feet, broad/flat face, and other hallmark symptoms listed in the article; so in this case "hallmark" is the proper descriptor.  And BTW, the fact that someone disagrees with you does not necessarily constitute WP:OWN.  Had your edit been correct, I would have gladly left it alone, as I have many other edits. Many editors contributed to writing the Hack Wilson article. All the best,  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  03:17, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * New Library Card designs
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Robert Smalls
Sorry, didn't mean to edit war there.

I'm just combing thru Wikipedia and fixing links so they conform to MOS:JOBTITLES (as has been debated here and here). --Woko Sapien (talk) 17:29, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * No problem. DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  18:12, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Hack Wilson
I do not want to be disputatious. A "hallmark" can be an indicator of a disease. It is used in the singular. When there are more than one indicators of a disease, they are called "symptoms." See, for example, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exertional. Wastrel Way (talk) 20:55, 6 June 2021 (UTC) Eric

I forgot...
... that I had already objected to your reversion. That is a hallmark of old age. There are also other symptoms... :-) Wastrel Way (talk) Eric
 * Yes, tell me about it! :-) As for hallmarks vs symptoms, I have been practicing medicine for 40+ years, so you'll have to trust me that "hallmarks" is the appropriate descriptor in this particular case.  Best,  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  01:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Feedback Request
Hi there! I have recently made a request for an assessment of the article Puppetry of the Penis on WikiProject Theatre. I have been editing this article for over a month, adding almost 3000 words, new sections, an infobox, media and more references for verifiability. I noticed you were a very active (and helpful) editor of WikiProject Theatre, and was wondering if you had the time if you could have a look at the article and provide me any feedback. Any general feedback would be much appreciated and possibly an assessment of the article for importance and quality. Thank you very much. Rubyredgirl (talk) 10:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * My comments are posted on the article's talk page. Well done!  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  13:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to thank you again for your assistance and feedback, as a new Wikipedia editor I really appreciate your time! I have taken your suggestions on board and edited the article accordingly. I am a university student and this was an assignment for class, but I have really enjoyed it and plan to continue editing on Wikipedia in my spare time, and hopefully improve. Thank you for your support and encouragement. Rubyredgirl (talk) 02:29, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Response to your Theodore Bundy talk page response
The film Black Christmas https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/ was released in 1974, a year that would apply to the possibility of usage by Bundy due to it being before the date wherein Bundy checked into that particular Florida hotel while on the run for the last time. This movie I speak of is one within the horror genre, and is notable as one of the first serial killer/stalker esc. movies in American film. Chris Hagen, the fictional character in question, is first mentioned @ approx. 19:55 in the film, where he is said to be (by a woman) a man who is kind and unassuming -- possibly relating to Bundy's MO, along with the movie genre and style itself. This fictional Hagen man goes on to kill more women, including the one who speaks his name @ approx. 19:55 -- ultimately never being suspected or caught for his crimes by the time the movie is over. I believe it to be entirely possible that Bundy name-dropped this character with intent, as opposed to randomly selecting a false name that manages to be that of a horror movie character from his era, and one who closely resembles Bundy himself.

I'm going to link the movie several more times because you mentioned your inability to locate this particular film without proper citing.

- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/ - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/ - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/ - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/ - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/ - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/

Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 21:53, 21 June 2021 (UTC)§ §


 * IMdB is not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia, because its content is user-contributed. And even if it were, you are drawing your own conclusions about the relationship to Bundy, which is a violation of WP:NOR.  You would have to find a reliable source that specifically mentions the association between that film and Bundy before it could be considered for inclusion in the article. Cheers,  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  01:29, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Response to your response to my response
Wikipedia itself is user-generated, therefore your response is not viable. Cheers, --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC) --Dr. Snuggles MD (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I suggest you read WP:RS and WP:NOR, because you clearly do not have an adequate grasp of what constitutes a reliable source on WP. DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  13:12, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Another good reference is WP:Citing sources, which another editor has already suggested to you on your talk page. DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  13:15, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

GOCE June 2021 newsletter
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Regarding Iron Pillar
Hey! You reverted my changes in the Iron Pillar article. I have started a discussion in the talk page here. Please check it out! Thanks --ShellPandey (talk) 15:18, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Replied on Iron Pillar talk page. DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  16:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Mary Anning
Why the reverts on Mary Anning? (<b style="color: Green;">Hohum</b> <sup style="color: Red;">@ ) 13:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * They didn't appear to be an improvement. If you disagree, feel free to revert my revert, and we'll see what others think.  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  13:37, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I've opened a section on the talk page. Your input would be welcome. (<b style="color: Green;">Hohum</b> <sup style="color: Red;">@ ) 13:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * My bad, I didn't realize what you were trying to accomplish. I'll vote for the new one. DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  13:58, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Billy Meier page
Hi Joe, You were asking for evidence. Here we go, this is thousand times more worth than the slander out there and referenced on the wiki page: https://www.amazon.com/They-are-Here-Compelling-Extraterrestrial/dp/1777155002 Be thus so kind to recognise that on the entry page. Thanks, Stefan

Hi Joe, On the baseless allegation that Meier would run yet another religion, the last thing humankind still lacks, it should suffice to read what he has to say about religions and sects. Two full books with 564 pages from him leave no jota of doubt that they are guilty of the inhumane circumstances on our planet: https://shop.figu.org/b%C3%BCcher/ein-offenes-wort?language=en https://shop.figu.org/b%C3%BCcher/gotteswahn-und-gotteswahnkrankheit?language=en So please don’t call him a religionist, he couldn’t be any further from that. Bye, Stefan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zutt (talk • contribs) 08:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I suggest you read WP:RS and WP:Citing sources to get a better idea of what constitutes reliable sourcing on Wikipedia. Self-published books by the subject himself and loyal followers just don't meet the criteria.  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  13:13, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Joe, so an astronomer, Francisco Villate, who spends 7 years of his life for checking the claimed evidence of the Meier case is for you just a "loyal follower". Why not apply logic here for a change? A scientific researcher who finally establishes the factuality of a hypothesis is becoming knowledgeable and "follower" of that piece of proven reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zutt (talk • contribs) 01:29, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Following your own criteria for reliable sourcing, you are providing zero sourcing for the claim that Meier would have created a religion. So kindly delete this allegation. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zutt (talk • contribs) 01:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)


 * First of all, please sign your posts with four tildes (~), which will automatically print your WP signature. This is the third anonymous note you have left here; signing posts is not optional. Second, the religion thing is indeed sourced in the article. Third, why are you arguing about this with me? If you feel the organization Meier created should be characterized as something other than a religion, or that the Meier article needs to be changed in any other way, make your case on the article's talk page -- but you will need some reliable sourcing to back up your assertions.  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  01:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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